Shrooms And Knowledge

xcyraxx said:

My new belief in life is that the answer to everything is already programmed into our heads. When we learn we arnt gaining new knowledge we are just finding things that already existed in our minds anyways. This belief obviously doesnt contradict any religion because it would be god who programmed our brains. Although i dont believe in god and believe heaven is just DMT working in your brain as your dead. I feel the explination of aliens is alot easier to believe in than god anyways. I thought ive put interest in is the fact that maybe we are just collecting data through our eyes so that one day the things we learned about our planet and universe can be extracted on day

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actually your not the first person to have this theory in fact it is exactly what the ancient greeks used to believe, that when you die you must drink from the river Styx and forget your pervious life before being reincarnated where learning is recollection

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamnesis

Indeed, To much thinking makes me question everything under the sun. Like why are we here, whats the point, is there an after life....etc. Whats worse in when everything starts making to much sense. Like I have figured out all the awnsers to my questions. I just try to float away when I trip, I have learned that to much of anything, especially thinking can be a bad thing for those that are on a medium to high dosage of magic marshmellows!

I was taking alot of shrooms for about 3 months and feel my brain was completely fried. I was gettting really bad mood swings just getting really sad because of thoughts that will never be answered and stuff but ive been off shrooms for about 2 months and feel like its getting better anybody feel where im coming from because im hoping i can completlely stop feeling like this from staying away from shrooms. Also now my marijuana highs feel more intense, kind of cool but sometimes it triggers the over thinking thing again. opinions?

my mind does the same thing when i trip especially acid but definatly on shrooms too. except on shrooms i go through weird cycles during my high.
but everything that i would ask, the universe, why things are, things about me. they would sometimes not even come with a verbal answer but even like a feeling and then you just know, you just understand it, and you can explain anything if someone asked. but as soon as i come out of it some memory of my trip becomes blury. but i def think alot while im high on herb too. if i start thinking too much and i want to be part of things outside my brain, like if im at a bar with friends or something hah, i just try and keep my mind focus on my senses, taste, touch, sight, ect. we are casually messing with shamanic mindaltering drugs. so practicing and controling your focus points of awareness is what i try and do. you can be tottaly gone but no one can tell. did that make sense?

but remember every religion has taught us that everyone of us has an essance or direct connection to go, within us.
dont forget about your never dieing soul who may have knowledge built up from many life times. edgar cayce talked about the akashic records, and we also have people saying they have guides and what not. so theres alot going on beyond our 5 senses, that shrooms, lsd, dmt and shamanic drugs helps our brain open to

I have had the most out-of-this-world experiences on shrooms...
Ever had a conversation with a friend without talking to them?

Ever seen someone shuffle a deck of cards, and then call out what card their gonna drop on the table 13 times in a row?


Shrooms have a special thing about them. I dont know how to explain it. It sounds rediculous, I wasnt just way deep in a trip either. Anyone else had similar experiences?

I feel like my "intuition" skyrockets when Im on shrooms. I feel like I can see right through people, could tell you everything about them Before I met them. Alot of the time, im at least half right about my intuitions.

i can smell things across the room on shrooms its weird

Actually u just talked about about talking to a friend without words and that is wierd... me and my friend are into taking heroic doses and one night was just really wierd... I could hear his mind and his thoughts co insided with his facial expressions... I would crack a joke in my head and he would laugh but quickly control himself, maybe because he thought he was going crazy. I would be having thoughts and he would say " wait, repeat that" at the really interesting points then he would withdraw like he didnt say anything... So in my head i told him we would never speak of this because i could see him going off the edge a bit. Then we both must of had the same thought at the same time that we were dead because we both jumped up to see how much battery was left on the laptop because we figured we would be dead here forever. We both cheared when we realized the battery would last forever because it was plugged in. Then we went to our couches and eccepted our existance as dead. wierd shit but after i sobered up i came t the conclusion that we werent reading each others minds we were just so fucked up we couldnt tell our lips were moving lol... Shrooms are a HELL of a drug lol

No my friend, Cocaine is a HELL of a drug.

bud nugbong said:

yes very true. never ever ever try and trip for your first time alone. could be very bad, i only do it because i know what im doing.

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I wouldn't say I recommend it, but COULD is definitely the key word here. My first time tripping I ate them by myself, rode my bike around then went to a kegger were my brother and a ton of non tripping drunk people were. hahah needless to say I didn't stay long but it was not a "bad trip" just confusing because I had no one with experience to explain certain feelings and thoughts to me.

Ok I have a story and a question for some of the veteran shroomers on here.

Backround: tripping on field shrooms with my brother and one other friend, on the way down from the peak if I had to guess.

We are ridding around in my our sober buddies caddy and pull up to a big four way intersection. I looked up at the traffic lights to see them swinging back and forth (not like tracers or anything but clearly as if the wind was blowing them), and my brother noticed it too after I said something. Then I looked down, thought about it, looked back up and said, "wait no there not wtf"

It happened on more than one instance. So, ^That might have been a bad way to explain it but basically we were seeing things happening which really were not... then felt a STRONG need to state the false happening as true... or maybe we just believed it. Then AGAIN correct ourselves if we realized we were just hallucinating.

Is this a more common effect than I'm making it seem, is there a word for this psychological phenomenon or is it just part of the whole experience?

I thought it had something to do with belief or ego but I really don't know...
+rep for help on that thought

Ego sounds right...I find english language, especially, is centered around the speaking entity. English is an egotistical way of thinking. It being a persons only form of communication both with themselves and with the outside world, creates an infinitely regressive ego that psychedelics can crush. I find it really hard to speak for another person, but try to do sufficiently.

Sometimes when I am bored I will make a person who is trying to explain to me something keep restating themselves in different ways by asking simple and repetitious questions. This I find is a great practice of ego on both sides of the equation; they feel the need to respond and qualify and I feel the need to tediously and needlessly have a statement re-explained. The funny thing is I generally can't help myself, and I usually try to rationalize it as me not caring about trivialities. I find it to be a chemical compulsion; I can see, hear and feel what I am doing but have no way to control it. I find watching myself do things is alot more fun then actually commanding myself do things.

Peace

i have never had a bad trip. although i have only tripped 11 times 6 dmt 3 dxm 2 shroomes. i wounder why and i cant figure it out. i have asked myself this while i was tripping my last time on dxm. i guess im just a lucky person =]
i want to have a bad trip sooner or later so my next trip i am going to watch some wacky horror fest thing.

hoping a bad trip apon urself tells me you are in need of a bad one

Well it can't be the drug thats bad, its the person. So to say bad trip gives the wrong connotation, trips are trips, how you perceive what the trip told you is what one would associate with "bad". The self being told that it doesn't exist in the form it identifies is quite a terrifying thing.

How you feel you were treated, is much different than what you were set to discover. If you can't deal its because you haven't accepted the truth.

Peace

Shrooms are the safest drug out there, even safer then weed. Weed can trigger psychosis to.

Lalaporo said:

Shrooms are the safest drug out there, even safer then weed. Weed can trigger psychosis to.

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I dun know about that... People sometimes feel like their dying on shrooms, and some take the wrong ones... Death