single cola plants?

Yeah, the longer you hold it in, the more absorbs through the lung tissue. However, it may not be good for your lungs just to get a little more absorption. smoking its bad enough as it is without holding it in extra long. thats just my 2cents. I think you do have to hold it in for a little bit at least though to get an effect.

Hahaha, i got to the post above and thought, wtf is going on?

Hold it in and it works better, count to ten.

Trichromes done really amber, they turn from clear to white. If anything they get a honey tint.

The pistols turn the amber red.

For pain let them go longer. CBN couchlock.

For pain, it's available in large quantity, good brickweed from columbia.

You can make some great hash from it, make you not want to get outta bed all day. High CBN levels.

gentlemen, i have a question.
as i understand it, clones with large (wide) stems root the fastest, and produce the most. but if you need a lot of clones from a large mother, then the cuts will be pretty small and thin.
how do you get the thick stems you want for a large sog

holmes said:

gentlemen, i have a question.
as i understand it, clones with large (wide) stems root the fastest, and produce the most. but if you need a lot of clones from a large mother, then the cuts will be pretty small and thin.
how do you get the thick stems you want for a large sog

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From everything I have read the way to thicken your stems is to reproduce nature by having a fan blowing on the plants. This mimics wind in nature and makes the plant stem thicker.

I use Grandma's mollassas as well. I'm told it helps with bud growth and stem thickening. A fan early on in veg will do wonders. Keep it going throughtout your grow.

I'll just harvest a couple plants at different times and see which I like the most. I'll post the different high you get if anyones interested after harvest. But it sounds for pain to just allow all the hairs to turn amber.

-Dude

Very correct.

That's the main reason to have fans directly on your plants, the cell walls are stronger in order to resist the wind. It will also keep your plants from streatching. It is great for root growth also, they will shoot roots out for stabilization.


I've never noticed the big stems rooting faster than smaller ones, however it is true because ther is more rooting area on the larger stems, if there is a lot of plant matter, it's going to have difficulty rooting.

Would clone size effect yeild though? Wouldn't a big clone yeild the same as a big clone if flowered at identical growth stages?

On an added note. A fan will keep moisture from accumulating on the buds in flower. Of course moisture would mean mold. Eek! So, a fan is a good idea all around. I've never heard it mentioned how strong of a fan. I see videos of some peoples fans going and it looks so strong to me. Wouldn't there be a limit to how fast the air should go? I always go with a cheapo small fan at Wal-mart on low. Any thoughts?

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I just use box fans, set on 2 outta 3, medium speed. They work great.

holmes said:

gentlemen, i have a question.
as i understand it, clones with large (wide) stems root the fastest, and produce the most. but if you need a lot of clones from a large mother, then the cuts will be pretty small and thin.
how do you get the thick stems you want for a large sog

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Hygrozyme, used consistently at every watering, will help produce the thick stems you are looking for. It is available online and at most local hydroponics stores. You should also have a fan blowing air at your plants 24x7. The air current will create micro-fractures in the stems and branches which will heal stronger and thicker than they were... Just like scar tissue.

+1 on fans and cellular structure.

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Would clone size effect yeild though? Wouldn't a big clone yeild the same as a big clone if flowered at identical growth stages?

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No, after rooting, a small clone will just catch up during veg. I found the smaller the clone the faster it roots. But there are limitations on too small...

MrHowardMarks said:

+1 on fans and cellular structure.





No, after rooting, a small clone will just catch up during veg. I found the smaller the clone the faster it roots. But there are limitations on too small...

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i just cut some clones from an indica that wont grow bigger then 2 feet even in flowering i cut them a week today,any way 3 of the clones were about an inch and a 1/2 they rooted today,the bigger ones have not that are about 3 inches big.and i thought the little ones would die,that they didnt have a chance.was i wrong.the ones an inch an a 1/2 barely reach out of the rockwool.

Well, it's faily simple, the larger the cutting, the more plant matter that has to be fed, so the longer it takes for cellular growth. A smaller cutting will root faster than a larger one.

Back to the topic...

Just adding my 2 cents since I hopped into this conversation kinda late. I'm with you Mr.Howard. A smaller cutting from the bottom of a plant is going to root faster thena large cutting form the top. The bottom of the plant has more of the hormones needed to produce roots. In the end you will may get a better yield from the smaller one, since it will start to root faster, and then inturn begin to grow more faster.

I cut my clones at about the 4th or 5th node and the only veg time they get is when they are rooting. I put them straight into my flowering room once they have a good spray of roots and harvest at week 6 or 8 depending on the strain and tric color. I have noticed that the larger stem clones do grow larger and faster. I usually have to tie them down a bit. I do have a Co2 system and maintain it at a constant 1500ppm. That may make a difference for the growth rate. My next batch i am going to cut the thick stem clones at the 4th node instead 5th to try to keep them shorter for a even SOG grow. Check out AL.B's thread on cloning if you haven't already https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/15030-batch-clones-rockwool.html

Here's some update pics. Sorry I'm not joining on the clone conversation. You guys know a lot more about it than me. Thanks to everyone who continues to contribute for the benefit of others.

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-The Dude

Cool man, harvested an early sample I see... Tisk tisk.

"Rockers" is a awesome movie, Jamaica in the early 80s... Also "Countryman" another good Jamaican movie. Everythings in patois, with subtitles.

Yeah, I'd been wanting to snip them for a while. Figured I would let em' go a while so I could have a early bird special. I took some good close-ups of bud development in my girls so far. Gotta say, for bag seed; I am surprised it's this good. But I only saved the seeds from my very best bags. So maybe I lucked up with a few with good genetics.

"The Rocker" -It's about a 40 yr old musician joining a high school rock group. Not sure we're talking the same movie. It came out in like 07' I think.

-Dude'r



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i've been following this thread for quite a while now but i never joined in the conversation.


what differences have you seen from the single cola plants to a regular plant?
what was the difference in yeild? when are you going to harvest everything all together

To break it down as simply as I can...

From seed 12/12, ratfords is doing, and I have never done. So idk...

From a clone with 2 weeks veg before flower, i've notice a slight yield increase, only a few grams per plant, with the use of supercropping and trimming for yield.

The biggest difference is the elimination of the smaller buds before they have the chance to form allows you to create more mass to the main cola. This also makes trimming at harvest a breeze, small buds are difficult to trim.

With these methods, you'll have fewer, larger buds. Instead of a bunch of tiny little buds. I call them tasty pieces, or larf.