single cola plants?

I never done a SOG either. Let alone 12/12 from seed before. I wont be harvesting all of them together. They were all put in the flower room at different times. All were tiny sprouts when they went under 12/12. So I figure they'll come out roughly the same order they went in. I'll harvest them on an individual basis. Will allow me to play around with the CBN levels a little. See the differences.

The single cola plants odviously take less space. Also, the plants with no side branches have better light penetration. My single cola's do seem to show stronger bud growth than bushy plants in the same stages of growth. But It's really to early to tell what any of the yeilds will be. I've trimmed most differently to see which is best as well.

It seems if your interested, find a good strain that naturally grows a good SOG formation. Let em veg a few weeks, then just trim for shape. Eliminate the lower third at week one and three of flower I've been told by numerous people. Should give you that top cola mass Mr. Howard is talking about.

It's a nice quick grow. Learned a lot. Which is always good.

Thanks
-Dude

MrHowardMarks said:

To break it down as simply as I can...

From seed 12/12, ratfords is doing, and I have never done. So idk...

From a clone with 2 weeks veg before flower, i've notice a slight yield increase, only a few grams per plant, with the use of supercropping and trimming for yield.

The biggest difference is the elimination of the smaller buds before they have the chance to form allows you to create more mass to the main cola. This also makes trimming at harvest a breeze, small buds are difficult to trim.

With these methods, you'll have fewer, larger buds. Instead of a bunch of tiny little buds. I call them tasty pieces, or larf.

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He is basically simulating Jamaican weather. In Jamaica the days are a lot shorter and the plants flower early and stay shorter. It should work. Jamaica Weather Guide - Cricket World Cup West Indies 2007 - Weather2Travel.com

How about that:

When the seeds look out with 2 bigger leaves you put the light on 18/6 for one week. Than you put the light on 12/12 for two weeks and add only grow nutrients. ... after this is flowering stage.

What do you say about that? Enyone?

What? Not sure I understand the question.

-Dude

Grow from seeds (wait until the they come out and produce two bigger leaves) than

First week 18/6
Second and third week 12/12 (use veg. fertilizers)
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Flowering period 12/12 (use flow. fertilizers)

You don't wanna use the veg on the 12/12, I think it'd be a lot better to keep the lights on 24/7 for the first 3 weeks, then switch to bloom nutes and lights to 12/12...

More veg time, and quicker response to flowering.

I never topped my plant and I have one giant cola...tuesday will be 6 weeks

Week 5 White Widow Pics

Nice, you gonna put lights on that christmas tree?

We're talking about single colas, like if you trimmed all the lower branches off before flowering and only had the large cola... Started flowering earlier... Etc.

im going to be doing a single cola SOG grow soon. Everything is ready too go, just waiting on the clones to root

I will be putting clones undr 12/12 immediately in an aero setup and i will keep em lollipopped. Im using bag seed for this first grow, but it's threads like this that will help me pick a strain for next time

My wife said that I cant grow anymore, but when you get good at this it turns into an addiction,,,, she just doesnt understand..... Looks like Ill use my friends house,, but here are some of my single cola plants....;....

Addicting yes! Absolutely! Seriously would advise at least 2 weeks of 24/7 veg time. Not including rooting time. I really wish I would of. My plants are looking great. I keep my bitches lookin' fine. But at harvest I'll wish I had some veg time I'm sure. Be great smoke, just not as much of it. Everyone agree?

Awesome pics everyone. Keep em' coming. I love threads with lots of examples. Sometimes stuff can get hard to understand for the layman.

Stay Safe All,
-Dude'r

you did seeds right?

im about to start a 12/12 single cola aero/hydro sog from clone, but im looking to keep plants under 3 feet. Would you still suggest 2 weeks of veg after the two weeks of rooting the clones already take?

I certainly would give them at least a week to get settled into their permenant home for the flowering period, to establish a root base, revive from any transplant shock, and begin growing. You'll notice faster stronger flowering, they'll get a head start.

yeah i had read earlier on about maybe a week under 24/7 or 18/6 once transplanted to new medium. the concencus seemed to be an extra week under 24/7 would help the most, get them used to the light ect. Makes sense, thinking of it as revival time instead of veg time.

If your going single cola and the like I'd say a week of 24/7 veg after rooting. Probably a good idea to start the light high in the week and every day move it down an inch or so. Let em' get used to the light intensity gradually. Then hit em' with 12/12.

As far as nutes. I'd stick with Veg nutes in Veg and Flower nutes in flower. I can't see the need for veg nutes in flower. Plants need for nitrogen deminishes greatly in flower. Too the point of drawling all nitrogen from the leaves. They do have flower nute supplements. I use some stuff called Open Seasame in early flower. Beastie Budz in mid-flower. Some other stuff for late-flower. Seems to work well with the Dutch Master nute line. Also, molassas, but that's a personal choice of mine.

-Dude

Sorry 24/0

24/7, i think everyone gets it.

And yes, it's a good idea to not put the clones directly under the HIDs, raise the lights up and lower them daily.

A lot of people don't realize that if your plant isn't growing strong, for any reason, it's not going to do as well. Any stress will considerably stunt possible growth, so transitions should go smoothly, with as little stress as possible. Any major changes in the enviroment, light, temperature, feeding, should be done gradually.

Can't say it better than that.

Had a question. I read this whole complicating thing in the Grow Faq about adjusting the photopediod to increase yeilds. Seems like crap but... Wouldn't just adding say an hour a day in flower give you (7hours x # of weeks) lots of extra growth time in flower? Would a 11 hour night confuse them? Or a 10? I know some parts of the world have shorter than 12 hour nights. Anyone know the exact length the darkness period needs to be to avoid adverse effects?

I'm told flowering hormones are manufactured at night. Anyone heard that before?

-Dude'r

Beach Bums.

i had read that the flowering is brought on by a chemical that is destroyed by light. So when you go to 12/12 the chemical begins to build up because it is only being half destroyed by the light. This is why you need to keep flowering rooms pitch dark, because it only takes a little light to inhibit the chemical. I think i read the number 8 hours dark as being the very minimum for it to start buildup, probably why no one vegs at lower then 16/8.

There must be a reason for 12/12 though, i mean beyond the common sense of natures clock.

Yeah, I wouldn't consider going to an 8 hour night. But a 13/11 cycle over an 8 week flowering period is an additional 56 hours of light. Seems like there would be a benefit of additional bud growth. But would a 13/11 or a 14/10 cycle even; Infibit the flowering hormones to much to warrant such a cycle?

-Dude'r