Greenthumbs256
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just go read the first 2 pages of that thread, everything I've been able to find in a year is laid out for everyone, as I've said I don't really understand it, but the results don't lie!
SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)
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meangreengrowinmachine
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here is my last ladies that were flowered out... so yes I do understand the amazing results of SIPs and living recycled soil.. (-:
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Greenthumbs256
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if you can help the rest of us understand that would be awesome! and we could make it better, but thats the rock and the hard place I'm stuck between
meangreengrowinmachine
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aaah I see so you have a very heavy layer of top dress fungi AND adding bacteria to your rez interesting... I sometimes have added Aloe to my rez as well as an air stone but I dont know that I want to add those EMs to my rez. Each to his own of course... I do think I will try something to get my top dress layer more fungi active as I think that could use some work on my grows.
Greenthumbs256
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it's like 2 or 3 layers depending how big u wanna go but yes
Greenthumbs256
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and your right no airstone if using em1, it kills the things in it lol life!!!
meangreengrowinmachine
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I think you seem to have a pretty good handle on it.. and your results speak for themselves! basically you want a lot of microbes and also a balance of good fungi in your soil. Feed the soil not the plant and your plant will be happy and do the rest man! Soooo many people making growing far far more complicated then it needs to be... there is a girl on here growing MONSTERS with just cow shit and tomato tone in upper WI outside... lol
Greenthumbs256
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I'm sure there is many way we can go about this but from what I've found it doesn't get any easier than this way, into reason I have an issue with the air stone, is bc what if it goes out? I'd never know lol! my em1 won't just stop working lol
meangreengrowinmachine
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yeah you are going for that no oxygen bacteria which is usually what people try to steer away from. Very interesting man. I will for sure adapt some of this on these ladies (-:
Greenthumbs256
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if u run a side by side plz tag me, I can't I would love to but just cant,
meangreengrowinmachine
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I dont think I would ever run a NON SIP side by side ... but I could see trying my traditional way and then trying the bacteria added to the rez way that you have going on and see what happens..maybe I will prep that for the clones I am going to take from these that sounds like something fun to try out!
Greenthumbs256
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no I mean ur version of sip vs mine, or what I'm trying lol it ain't mine
that would be awesome plz tag me or send me a link anything lol! I'd love to see, as I've said I don't know much, so I'm positive beyond a doubt somebody can rework this and make it 10 times better!
Humanrob
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That's a future hobby of mine I hope, something simple like some autos (stay short and can handle all kinds of light changes) growing over a tank with simple hardy gold fish... something we could keep in the living room and enjoy. I have some preliminary drawings of converting an armoire or tv cabinet where the plants are enclosed so that the lights don't make the living room look like a stadium on game night, but the tank in the bottom is exposed... some day. I guess that'll need it's own thread
Greenthumbs256
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I have a friend that tried it, didn't last long but honestly he don't have a passion and gave up very easily in my opinion, I've never been interested in trying to keep fish alive lol! I got a hard enough time trying to keep myself alive!That's a future hobby of mine I hope, something simple like some autos (stay short and can handle all kinds of light changes) growing over a tank with simple hardy gold fish... something we could keep in the living room and enjoy. I have some preliminary drawings of converting an armoire or tv cabinet where the plants are enclosed so that the lights don't make the living room look like a stadium on game night, but the tank in the bottom is exposed... some day. I guess that'll need it's own thread
meangreengrowinmachine
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that sounds freaking sweet! I had heard of the idea loooong ago like in a 90's high times the first time and I have wanted to try it out every since lolThat's a future hobby of mine I hope, something simple like some autos (stay short and can handle all kinds of light changes) growing over a tank with simple hardy gold fish... something we could keep in the living room and enjoy. I have some preliminary drawings of converting an armoire or tv cabinet where the plants are enclosed so that the lights don't make the living room look like a stadium on game night, but the tank in the bottom is exposed... some day. I guess that'll need it's own thread
Greenthumbs256
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not much longer now! got some leaves yellowing off, next time I really need to upgrade to a 30g sip! need to get started building lol
meangreengrowinmachine
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Shit yeah man! Looking great!!!
Hey sip’rs, hope you don’t mind me tagging along here, as I’m planning my build now for the up coming season. I’ve been doing lots of reading through these forums and I’ve noticed there are many ways to achieve great results in sips.
I’m in a 4x4 tent, usually veg about a month under 400w of my, then I have a 630cmh for flower.
Hopefully some can help me with some questions I have ..
My options for the build are: 2x 12g totes, one stacked inside the other , second option would be a 12g inside an 18 gal, or I could use my fabric pots, on top 10 gal containers. If I was doing tote inside tote, I’d probably run two? Would 4 x 7 gal fabric pot setup get too crowded in a 4x4 with sips? What size wick would I use for these setups? What’s the best medium to use, and at what ratio? Do you guys use your wick as support for the soil container to sit on? I have seen builds where they cut out the inside of the lid, supported by pvc, or the wick. Just trying to get a feel for my best way to do things.
Guys who run the fabric pots, so you line the bottom of your pots with wicking medium before the soil? Or does your soil sit right on top of the wick container?
Going to be using organic soil for these as well.
Thanks guys!
I’m in a 4x4 tent, usually veg about a month under 400w of my, then I have a 630cmh for flower.
Hopefully some can help me with some questions I have ..
My options for the build are: 2x 12g totes, one stacked inside the other , second option would be a 12g inside an 18 gal, or I could use my fabric pots, on top 10 gal containers. If I was doing tote inside tote, I’d probably run two? Would 4 x 7 gal fabric pot setup get too crowded in a 4x4 with sips? What size wick would I use for these setups? What’s the best medium to use, and at what ratio? Do you guys use your wick as support for the soil container to sit on? I have seen builds where they cut out the inside of the lid, supported by pvc, or the wick. Just trying to get a feel for my best way to do things.
Guys who run the fabric pots, so you line the bottom of your pots with wicking medium before the soil? Or does your soil sit right on top of the wick container?
Going to be using organic soil for these as well.
Thanks guys!
Greenthumbs256
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hey man, I'm starting a comparison in a few weeks of my version on the sips, using probiotics, only difference will be, one gets mammoth p, other wont, if u or anyone is interested I'll share links when it starts!
fyi. If anyone has some good info on the mammoth p they can share with me plz do! I don't know much! also with that said, if you haven't read a tad about my method I've been working on, then that's very important to atleast know the basics of what I'm doing for any of this to make sense! links on my page, also in the thread a page or so back!
also I could use some advise or pointers to help run this comparison if anyone doesn't mind helping me out with this! I'd greatly appreciate it, I don't even mind showing my thanks I have some extra bodhi f2 gear I can send you way to say thanks for the help!
meangreengrowinmachine
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personally I went with the Inntainer design since it has been around for a very long time and proven results outside of these applications also. Super easy to build and there are step by step instructions earlier in this thread (I can re post if you want the PDF and don't want to dig). One thing you want to be careful of is the wick size so it does not over or under saturate. let me know if you want a re post of the inntainer design. I has step by step instructions for 18 gal and 14 gal tote versions. Obviously this is not the ONLY way to go but again seems tried and true.