Size of fabric pots and whats appropriate for space?

PJ Diaz

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Yup noob here. I wasn't even talking trash. I legit have seen you talking shop and was just surprised to hear you cheap assing about something so cheap as coco. Carry on. I know I seen you talking about how u handle fungus gnats. This explains it
I don't have fungus gnats. Not throwing money on something unnecessary isn't the same as cheap assing. If you want to throw your own money away, go for it, makes zero difference to me. I also don't buy new clones every cycle, because I can take my own cuts. Does that also make me cheap? Actually the fact is that I save time reusing my coco, because I don't have to drive to the store and buy a new bag, so maybe it's more about me being lazy than cheap. In reality it's about reusing materials. I also don't throw my produce scraps in the garbage, I put them in my worm bin. Does that make me cheap because I don't buy worm castings? No, it makes me smart.
 

PJ Diaz

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The reality is that you are more likely to see fungus gnats in a fresh bag or brick of coco than you are in reused coco (assuming that your grow isn't already infested with gnats).
 

MannyPacs

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I don't have fungus gnats. Not throwing money on something unnecessary isn't the same as cheap assing. If you want to throw your own money away, go for it, makes zero difference to me. I also don't buy new clones every cycle, because I can take my own cuts. Does that also make me cheap? Actually the fact is that I save time reusing my coco, because I don't have to drive to the store and buy a new bag, so maybe it's more about me being lazy than cheap. In reality it's about reusing materials. I also don't throw my produce scraps in the garbage, I put them in my worm bin. Does that make me cheap because I don't buy worm castings? No, it makes me smart.
Digging through roots for hours a year to save $100 is penny wise son. I've got family and business to tend to before I can just waste time. Good luck with all that coco reclaiming. No shade man you're doing good for the environment. I pick up trash in my neighborhood
 

Milky Weed

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It definitely was overkill it was my first coco grow.
If your getting fed up with watering frequency with coco you could consider giving peat a try. Holds abit more moisture for longer. Im in 5g pots with peat (too much i know) but i like only watering every 2.5-3 days.
 

Livingblacksoil

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OP you seem to be leaning towards organics. If so the bigger the pot the better. 15g-20g 4 plants. Please forgive the many expert comments that don't answer your question, they like to show how much they know. And they know a lot.
Good luck
 

PJ Diaz

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Digging through roots for hours a year to save $100 is penny wise son. I've got family and business to tend to before I can just waste time. Good luck with all that coco reclaiming. No shade man you're doing good for the environment. I pick up trash in my neighborhood
Hours? Dude I said one hour per year. Less time than it takes to drive to the hydro store and back once. I'm not your son, kid. I spend my extra money on nice things for my wife and kids, not unnecessary extra bags of coco. My horticulture instructor in college also reused his grow media, but I guess you know better than him too.
 

xtsho

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Yup noob here. I wasn't even talking trash. I legit have seen you talking shop and was just surprised to hear you cheap assing about something so cheap as coco. Carry on. I know I seen you talking about how u handle fungus gnats. This explains it
It's not cheap assing anything. It's reusing something that's perfectly fine to use. The reason this planet is so fucked up with pollution and piles of trash is because of a throw away mentality. You're not being cheap for reusing something and giving a damn.

I reuse everything. I even reuse plastic plant tags, fabric pots, etc... If it can still be used I reuse it. That goes for everything not just cannabis growing supplies. I don't do it because I can't afford to replace things. I do it because it's stupid to keep paying for the same thing over and over. Might as well just light your money on fire and watch the ashes blow away in the wind.
 

PJ Diaz

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@PJ Diaz is extremely knowledgeable. Claiming he's wrong "About just about everything you(he) post(s)" is just wrong. You're embarrassing yourself.
I appreciate that. I'm perfectly happy to be wrong, and I have no problem tucking my tail between my legs when I am proven to be, but in this case I'm not wrong. This dude is a useless tool, who can't even get through 4-weeks of a flowering cycle, because he doesn't know he needs to calibrate his meter regularly. I'm guessing that he doesn't use ph probe storage solution either, so calibration would be pointless anyway.
 

blueberrymilkshake

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I just reclaimed five gallons of coco. Took about two minutes. Surprised how much good coco I got back. I planted some lettuce seeds in it and I've got lettuce already growing in fresh coco. I wanted to do a side by side of old/new coco before I considered reusing it for cannabis.

It looks and feels new still, no big deal...

I don't have gnats either lol
 
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MannyPacs

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I just reclaimed give gallons of coco. Took about two minutes. Surprised how much good coco I got back. I planted some lettuce seeds in it and I've got lettuce already growing in fresh coco. I wanted to do a side by side of old/new coco before I considered reusing it for cannabis.

It looks and feels new still, no big deal...

I don't have gnats either lol
Gnat larvae love decomposing organic matter so keep on leaving them a rottin roots buffet and see how long that's the case.

Root balls belong in the compost. Reclaiming coco properly takes longer than 2 minutes that's for sure.

There are better ways to save the environment than wasting time with old coco. But have at it buddies
 

MannyPacs

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I just did it like 30 minutes ago, idk what to tell you man. Want me to film myself next time?
Actually ya lol maybe u guys have a better way of removing the roots than I do. If you're seriously cleaning a bucket of coco in a couple of minutes then u clearly have your system down. It would take me about a good hour to sift and clean 4 buckets to my liking when I reused the stuff so good for you man for real

Edit: I reused coco the first 5-6 years I grew but then I lost a pack of seeds to fungus gnat larvae - I still have visions of the couple I saw squiggling in my nightmares lol - The crazy part was I only saw one or two gnats but they ate the tap roots in 10 different solo cups. You can obviously minimize your risks but I've never lost a pack like that since I stopped reusing coco. But hey I never totalled a car before I got rear ended last Month. Shit just happens and like someone pointed out you can get flies from bricks of coco too
 
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rootforme

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Actually ya lol maybe u guys have a better way of removing the roots than I do. If you're seriously cleaning a bucket of coco in a couple of minutes then u clearly have your system down. It would take me about a good hour to sift and clean 4 buckets to my liking when I reused the stuff so good for you man for real

Edit: I reused coco the first 5-6 years I grew but then I lost a pack of seeds to fungus gnat larvae - I still have visions of the couple I saw squiggling in my nightmares lol - The crazy part was I only saw one or two gnats but they ate the tap roots in 10 different solo cups. You can obviously minimize your risks but I've never lost a pack like that since I stopped reusing coco. But hey I never totalled a car before I got rear ended last Month. Shit just happens and like someone pointed out you can get flies from bricks of coco too
I've never had to fight pests as long as I've taken IPM seriously. If you don't have an IPM plan it will always be a crap shoot. The first thing I do is add nematodes and then to prevent reapply every 3 weeks. You will never have aphids or gnats.
 

MannyPacs

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I've never had to fight pests as long as I've taken IPM seriously. If you don't have an IPM plan it will always be a crap shoot. The first thing I do is add nematodes and then to prevent reapply every 3 weeks. You will never have aphids or gnats.
Ya this was the only instance I actually used nematodes. When I reused coco part of my process was using slf100 and I use gnatrol every 4 weeks. My process took way longer than just a few minutes so when I still found the larvae eating the tap roots straight from the seed I blamed reusing coco. For me reusing coco is a tedious process that wasn't worth the hour or two a month it took. The flys were just kind of the straw that broke the back.
 
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