Slap "cannabis" nutrients on it and charge 5x more?

AquaTerra

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You also have to give it a "cool" name and put a dragon or gremlin or something on the package.

Don't forget 420 becuse nothing says farming or horticulture like the numbers 420. The price difference is insane I think Floraflex is even way cheaper than this one although their bud booster aka MKP is like 3x what you can buy MKP for lol
 
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Funbudd

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I just bought a pound jar of Veg and Bloom Dirty for $35 in Canada…looked at the ingredients and pretty much the same as my Miracle grow 24-8-16 (which has more N-P-K) and it cost me $10 for a 3.3 pound bucket. Also have Ferticare Bloom and Fruit (1-25-35) which I use for the flowering cycle and it has all the same ingredients plus seaweed…2.2 lbs for $25. Anything with cannabis label and it costs 5X more…all marketing. Growing weed is not that complicated.
 

Playk328

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I myself will be going gaia green for next season after trying remo nutrients and not being happy with that line up at all. I use to run botanicare before remo nutes but with the price comparison between dry organics and liquids and the fact that it would be much easier to premix and then just water and add teas along the way.... Gaia green here I come
 

Playk328

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The only downside to gaia green is the shipping costs, it seem more viable to get them at a local feed store vs trying to order them online
 

AquaTerra

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The only downside to gaia green is the shipping costs, it seem more viable to get them at a local feed store vs trying to order them online

Gaia is pretty good although not a mom and pop company anymore as Hydrofarm bought out Grotek which bought Gaia Green a few years back. Hydrofarm is the lesster of the two evils with Hawthrone being the major shysters.

Are you in Canada or US? Us now has distributors ship of Gaia so most hydro stores should be able to get it. I do free shipping over $99 so get $100 and you save +++
 

Playk328

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Gaia is pretty good although not a mom and pop company anymore as Hydrofarm bought out Grotek which bought Gaia Green a few years back. Hydrofarm is the lesster of the two evils with Hawthrone being the major shysters.

Are you in Canada or US? Us now has distributors ship of Gaia so most hydro stores should be able to get it. I do free shipping over $99 so get $100 and you save +++
I am in Canada and I priced a few places like indoorgrowing canada, holland and even checked your shop, holland and indoor both were going to charge for overweight shipping "even tho they said free shipping" and I seen your place say it was free shipping "which if its true it makes your shop the cheapest place to get them online" so I was unsure. If the shipping is free with u all then id for sure get them, that would save me a trip to the feed store and would make it an amazing bargain
 
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AquaTerra

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I am in Canada and I priced a few places like indoorgrowing canada, holland and even checked your shop, holland and indoor both were going to charge for overweight shipping "even tho they said free shipping" and I seen your place say it was free shipping "which if its true it makes your shop the cheapest place to get them online" so I was unsure. If the shipping is free with u all then id for sure get them, that would save me a trip to the feed store and would make it an amazing bargain

Well the weight thing is a double edge sword as shipping is fuck ass expensive in Canada. I had two orders this month (most of my orders are to Ontario) and I've lost money on free shipping as the shipping costs were more than the profit I made. I actually lose about 40% profit on free shipping. I think I'm about $4000+ in free shipping that I had to eat up this year. I can write that off as a business cost when doing my corp taxes but have to ride that for a whole year.

I was thinking of raising prices across the board and doing 100% free shipping but not sure if the customer will look at the price first vs seeing free shipping with no purchase limit. I'd have to probably do a 20-25% price increase.
 

Playk328

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Well the weight thing is a double edge sword as shipping is fuck ass expensive in Canada. I had two orders this month (most of my orders are to Ontario) and I've lost money on free shipping as the shipping costs were more than the profit I made. I actually lose about 40% profit on free shipping. I think I'm about $4000+ in free shipping that I had to eat up this year. I can write that off as a business cost when doing my corp taxes but have to ride that for a whole year.

I was thinking of raising prices across the board and doing 100% free shipping but not sure if the customer will look at the price first vs seeing free shipping with no purchase limit. I'd have to probably do a 20-25% price increase.
Yeah Im in Ontario as well and shipping is getting absurd. Your gaia green excluding shipping costs is on point with the others but free shipping puts yours over 55 dollars cheaper then any other place online that ive seen, that savings is on par with what it costs at feed store, only difference would be the time and gas saved to go to feed store.. So basically that would be the best deal out there
 

AquaTerra

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Yeah Im in Ontario as well and shipping is getting absurd. Your gaia green excluding shipping costs is on point with the others but free shipping puts yours over 55 dollars cheaper then any other place online that ive seen, that savings is on par with what it costs at feed store, only difference would be the time and gas saved to go to feed store.. So basically that would be the best deal out there
The problem is the stores are not charging enough for products to offset any free shipping costs. I've been watching online stores since legalization. 70% of them came out of the line with super cheap prices I was like WTF? Well with in a year they all jacked up the prices back to semi normal. Then had others doing free shipping after $79 or less Canada wide, now those ones are doing it for $149+ lol Then they had some weight restrictions.
 

Playk328

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The problem is the stores are not charging enough for products to offset any free shipping costs. I've been watching online stores since legalization. 70% of them came out of the line with super cheap prices I was like WTF? Well with in a year they all jacked up the prices back to semi normal. Then had others doing free shipping after $79 or less Canada wide, now those ones are doing it for $149+ lol Then they had some weight restrictions.
Yeah I personally seen that 1st hand, indoor canada was 99 when I placed order but 2 days later they bumped it to 149. I like your idea of maybe adjusting prices so you're not losing so much but offer free shipping with no minimum purchases. For myself I hate paying shipping but I really cant stand to be forced to pay 149 just to get free shipping..
 

AquaTerra

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Yeah I personally seen that 1st hand, indoor canada was 99 when I placed order but 2 days later they bumped it to 149. I like your idea of maybe adjusting prices so you're not losing so much but offer free shipping with no minimum purchases. For myself I hate paying shipping but I really cant stand to be forced to pay 149 just to get free shipping..
Still deciding which way to go. For a couple more months I`m gonna do two free shipping levels. BC, AB and MB $49 and rest of Canada $99. I'm gonna debate of the free shipping across the board over the next few days and see how much I'd have to raise the prices to compensate for it

Another stupid thing all the stores do is list almost everything that suppliers have in their catalogues which for a retail store not financially possible as it would be millions of stock and probably a 20Ksf ware house to stock all even if you carried a couple set of each item.. A warehouse like that is $20K+ per month lol Even funnier is the suppliers don't even have 1/3 of those items in stock themselves.
 

The Hippy

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I highly recommend Aqua Terra for any growing needs.
He's a stand up guy and totally deserves your business.
Imo he's a good business man with some ethics. Plus he's a small business owner.
I've seen him on here for years and he has supported lot of members here. With advise and sales.
Supporting him will be a win for him and you.
 
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The Hippy

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Still deciding which way to go. For a couple more months I`m gonna do two free shipping levels. BC, AB and MB $49 and rest of Canada $99. I'm gonna debate of the free shipping across the board over the next few days and see how much I'd have to raise the prices to compensate for it

Another stupid thing all the stores do is list almost everything that suppliers have in their catalogues which for a retail store not financially possible as it would be millions of stock and probably a 20Ksf ware house to stock all even if you carried a couple set of each item.. A warehouse like that is $20K+ per month lol Even funnier is the suppliers don't even have 1/3 of those items in stock themselves.
Ya I get it....it has too be paid somewhere right. Either by you or in the profit from the order. It's either got to be here or there.
It's either included in a price or charged to the customer. Don't feel bad. It's the way it works and we get it.
 

AquaTerra

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Ya I get it....it has too be paid somewhere right. Either by you or in the profit from the order. It's either got to be here or there.
It's either included in a price or charged to the customer. Don't feel bad. It's the way it works and we get it.

Well what sucks is Canada Post is so hard to get discounts on shipping and when you do its fuck all. I was on 3rd tier after spending $5K in a year on shipping from then and the most you get is like 15% discount in province lol not the 50% they advertise. Canpar is the cheapest but I have to use a third party shipping system for them as got a pretty descent deal from the shipping fulfillment company owner but they don't cover as much of Canada and anything out of the way gets expensive. I've spent like $4K with them this year so gonna try to use that and see if I can get as good or better deal with Canpar next week.
 

AquaTerra

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Was just looking to bring in Floraflex lol same fucking thing a 25lb container just of 1 part of the 2 part veg or bloom is 5x the price wholesale than Jacks, Mega Crop or Plant Prod. Their Full Tilt 25lb (11kg) which is Monopotassium Phosphate is 6x the price of 20kg bag of MKP wholesale lol
 
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