Small Closet Grow

How does my rough draft drawing look? The biggest worry I have is a vegging area I'm thinking something around 2x4x6
What do you think? Too big? Also how long cen you clone off a mother plant? I don't want to plant 25 seeds every time to get a couple mothers (medifore)

Whats goin on trey, I am currently doing a grow in the exact same style of closet. I have a 150w hps and 312w of cfls with three short girls as u can see.
But after this harvest i plan to set up a 600w hps/mh in there. Gonna get a cool tube so heat shouldnt be too bad.

2x4x8 would be good for a small flower room or all in one. you don't need as much space for the veg area but in a small space it will be hard to do a larg # of clones + mothers + veg. you could put a kitchen rack in the remaining 2x2 and use cfl or 2ft t5/t8 for clones/veg...then just hang some panda over it. thats kinda tight to do a perpetual tho but not impossible.

a mother can be kept for years as long as you can keep it healthy

1itsme said:

2x4x8 would be good for a small flower room or all in one. you don't need as much space for the veg area but in a small space it will be hard to do a larg # of clones + mothers + veg. you could put a kitchen rack in the remaining 2x2 and use cfl or 2ft t5/t8 for clones/veg...then just hang some panda over it. thats kinda tight to do a perpetual tho but not impossible.

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Whats up ItsMe, Do u happen to have any pics of the 600w in the grow space and its ventilation

Hey thanks again guys I never though my first post would get this much positiVe feedback. Your grow looks really good nice job!! I don't need a lot of clones just a couple to restart the flowering process after harvest. This is all just so confusing but I am sure it will make more since after the first grow. I can't wait to get my equipment and get a indoor grow under my belt!!

I am not exactly sure if you cen see it out not but in those first pictures u cen see a white board going across the wall I was wondering what do you think about having the flowing space on bottom and having veg up top? I'm thinking there's like 5 ft on bot and 3ft of clearance on top

When I get home ill take a few more pictures and have more ideas written up. Hopefully we cen get somthing figured out lol

SweetestCheeba said:

Whats up ItsMe, Do u happen to have any pics of the 600w in the grow space and its ventilation

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not anymore i moved my flower area into a tent my cellphone takes crappy photos. anyways the vent set up is pretty easy just hang the filter by the ceiling then--->light hood--->inline--->out. make a seperate intake at floor lvl.

One thing you can consider is growing auto-flowering plants. The idea is that you plant a seed (or two) every two weeks or so, and after 70 days you harvest a plant every two weeks or so. Auto's are relatively small (usually between 1 and 2 feet), are not light dependent so you can have your grow room with an 18/6 schedule and have both new plants sitting right next to plants about ready to harvest. From the bud-porn I've seen of auto's, you could probably have 12 plants growing in that closet and you don't need a separate veg area.

I personally have had dismal luck with autos, but I think that has more to do with the strain I picked than anything. There's a auto-specific thread in the forums where you can check out how these things grow. It's worth considering if you're only growing for your personal use. I would say that if you get good at growing auto's you easily could yield an ounce a plant.

lilroach said:

One thing you can consider is growing auto-flowering plants. The idea is that you plant a seed (or two) every two weeks or so, and after 70 days you harvest a plant every two weeks or so. Auto's are relatively small (usually between 1 and 2 feet), are not light dependent so you can have your grow room with an 18/6 schedule and have both new plants sitting right next to plants about ready to harvest. From the bud-porn I've seen of auto's, you could probably have 12 plants growing in that closet and you don't need a separate veg area.

I personally have had dismal luck with autos, but I think that has more to do with the strain I picked than anything. There's a auto-specific thread in the forums where you can check out how these things grow. It's worth considering if you're only growing for your personal use. I would say that if you get good at growing auto's you easily could yield an ounce a plant.

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I wis h I were growing for my own use lol, I have family that is interested is some of the bud I produce that's one of my main concerns. I am sure having a plant or two every 14 weeks would hold me over but what I want to accomplish is a pound every 8 weeks or maybe like 3/4 pound.

Is it possible with the space I have or is it not going to happen lol. I understand my first grow will not get this yield because of lack of experience but maybe after 2-3 grows

1itsme said:

not anymore i moved my flower area into a tentView attachment 2704893 my cellphone takes crappy photos. anyways the vent set up is pretty easy just hang the filter by the ceiling then--->light hood--->inline--->out. make a seperate intake at floor lvl.

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Ive been looking that up for so long and i want to say thanks for making it so simple, u may not have done it on purpose but that jus clarified it for me.
Ok so u did a vertical grow, What did u do about top lighting?
And i dont know if u can see this in the pic but there is a board at the bottom left of the pic that i plan to replace and vent hot air out of(it leads to the structure of the apt building). So it will go Filter--hood--inlilne--panel and a fan to move air around in the closet.

I would say get your set-up dialed in, grow a couple of plants and harvest them before you attempt to go perpetual. There's going to be a lot of obstacles to clear until that point. What method of grow do you plan on? Soil/ Hydro? I would recommend soil for starters. Go easy on nutrients, use amended soil, like subcools supersoil. Then just water with plain filtered or R/O water and maybe some molasses. For nutrients stick with worm castings, compost, kelp meal, and maybe some guano mixed with a good peat based mix with plenty of perlite or volcanic rock for aeration. Once you go through the process of dealing with bugs, nutrient deficiencies/lock-outs, stress, etc. Then you can venture on to bigger things. Practice cloning. It will take time and patience. Expect around 12-16 weeks before you harvest and smoke your buds. Learn to dry and cure properly. It seems like a lot, but practice makes perfect. Good Luck and Happy Growing.

SweetestCheeba said:

Ive been looking that up for so long and i want to say thanks for making it so simple, u may not have done it on purpose but that jus clarified it for me.
Ok so u did a vertical grow, What did u do about top lighting?
And i dont know if u can see this in the pic but there is a board at the bottom left of the pic that i plan to replace and vent hot air out of(it leads to the structure of the apt building). So it will go Filter--hood--inlilne--panel and a fan to move air around in the closet.

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the photo is from my tent, its alot bigger so i'm doing vert there(no top lighting just the 600). in a small space it's prob better to do horizontal. screens are nice for small spaces so you can get a realy even canopy.

I would say if cutting holes and building a little is not an issue, slap some plywood on the front, cut in/out holes, get fan and cool tube 400/600 watt hang it up, and hopefully with some fan's possible AC ducting, you'll be rocking out some madness from that hole in the wall. lol

Yeah, I don't have a problem cutting holes. I know about construction so fixing holes is a walk in the part ( I say some experience I have a bad temper punching walls an shit lol)

Trey046 said:

Yeah, I don't have a problem cutting holes. I know about construction so fixing holes is a walk in the part ( I say some experience I have a bad temper punching walls an shit lol)

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Just don't punch where there's a stud. Trust me on that one.

Trey046 said:

I wis h I were growing for my own use lol, I have family that is interested is some of the bud I produce that's one of my main concerns. I am sure having a plant or two every 14 weeks would hold me over but what I want to accomplish is a pound every 8 weeks or maybe like 3/4 pound.

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Ok.....a pound every eight weeks....in a closet. I can only gage that feat by what I've grown (I'm harvesting my second grow soon), and you'll have to be a much better grower than I am. I may get four ounces from my three plants. I didn't screw anything up during this grow. I used good soil, smart pots, vegged for 8 weeks, am in my 9th week of flower, used a decent strain, had a 400w HPS for flower, and used good organic nutrients.

Can you get a pound from a closet....sure....using a SCROG, and some sort of hydro system. But then you probably won't be able to do this in 8 weeks. Once a SCROG is in place, you're committed to it until the end.

May I ask what a SCROG is? I am sorry if that is the simplist of terms but I have personally never seen a description. Yeah the studs SUCK!!! I had hit them before! Oh, and totally I knew I wouldn't get these numbers in my first few grows but eventually you know what i mean?