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Soil or Hydro?

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Stranger307

Stranger307

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Checked the tent today morning - temperature is 30°C still...
The whole room is filled with light delightful smell so I shall think of carbon filter while it's not too late
So my current focus is: insulation and filter.
I'm a bit concerned when to start adding nutrients - don't want to look for the right time based on plant's health and appearance
 
Stranger307

Stranger307

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Just returned from the vacation. Plant starts growing vigorously.
Doing some LST regularly, so far didn't add any supplements to watering.
I'm very happy with the All mix soil from Biobizz - plenty of food and great drainage.
Plan to add 1ml per litre from the next week - just to try out.
Plant seems healthy to me, though some signs of heat damage...
And for some reason humidity dropped dramatically :(
If i count correctly, it's day 21 now
 

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Stranger307

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Long time no see friends,
Current process is all about LST and checking the soil for watering needs.
Seems like I need to pour more water per time. Yesterday for the first time (around day 27) added some blooming nutes - around 2 ml, as growth seemed like losing a bit colour..

Once I thought about the number of days.... now it seems to me, the plant is small for 27 days...
 

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Stranger307

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With yesterday's watering added 4 ml of nutes (I'll use only flowering part...at least that's the plan for the 1st grow - to have it minimalistic)
Seems like the plant liked it, some side branches grew overnight, so more was LST applied morning.
Once the light goes off, will take newer photos with the stem view
 

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Stranger307

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So if I calculate correctly, week 6 starts.
Current photos attached. Can't judge if plant's size is ok for it's age...
No more LST further on, I'll leave it to strive now and will just track water and nutes.
Plan for this week: carbon filter. If they have black&white film in the shop, then I'll add inner layer for insulation and extra reflection
 

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Stranger307

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Finally the filter! :)
And isolated tent with white reflecting film inside.
Hope it won't create too high temperature with light on...
Due to technical obstacles could set the filter inside, so air is pushed through it instead. Another downside - I have 2 exhaust fans installed but filter has only one "enter"...:lol:
 

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Stranger307

Stranger307

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So here it is - all set. I'm happy with current setup :) smell disappeared within hour.
Some light still leak from the front side - I can't completely seal it due to the "door"
Checked the temperature with lights on - all good
I'm pretty happy with current setup. Will stick to it further on
 

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Stranger307

Stranger307

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If I'm counting correctly, it's week 6 now.
I'm pretty happy with the grow, LST is doing great, though I got a couple of concerns...
- shall I stop with LST at some point and let the plant do it's thing (grow buds & chill) or shall I bend and form even conopy till the very harvest?
- after a couple of waterings with nutes, I see some burned tips, so will give just plain water today. Fortunately I've added very little quantities 4-5 ml per 2 l
- today under HPS it seems to me that conopy shows some kind of deficiencies: I can see a bit of curled leaves - heat issue.. But some leaves seems to lose some colour etc. which concerns me much more :(
Uploading photos for your judgement..
Still can't evaluate if the size is ok for week 6 auto

P.S. I think it's important to mention that I don't adjust PH of the water - it's tap water that stands for 24 or more hours in the tent before watering..
 

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sensi8739

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Heyo. I just skimmed through, but I assume you are using some soilless medium with a nutrient line of some kind? Either way, things look good in my opinion. You have the right idea to stick with just water and let things cool off a bit in there. If things get worse, put the plant in the bathtub and run distilled water through until you get a good bit of run off coming out the bottom. This should help resettle the PH and nutrient ppm in medium.

Looking good though sir, but from my judgement those buds look to be around week 2-3 my friend.
 
Stranger307

Stranger307

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sensi8739 said:
Heyo. I just skimmed through, but I assume you are using some soilless medium with a nutrient line of some kind? Either way, things look good in my opinion. You have the right idea to stick with just water and let things cool off a bit in there. If things get worse, put the plant in the bathtub and run distilled water through until you get a good bit of run off coming out the bottom. This should help resettle the PH and nutrient ppm in medium.

Looking good though sir, but from my judgement those buds look to be around week 2-3 my friend.
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Really appreciate. This is an auto so I can't say which week of flower exactly it is :)
I expect 4-6 more weeks till harvest...
I use soil actually - All Mix from Biobizz - I wanted to take the most forgiving path for the first grow.
For the nutes - I got only flower part of Biobizz line, since allmix has plenty of nutes itself.
Any advise on LST please?... I enjoy it a lot, but a bit afraid to overdo here :)
 
sensi8739

sensi8739

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Feel free to LST and adjust branches to provide maximum light coverage throughout the entire flower process. So long as you are gentle, and be aware of branches limits, you're good to go. As things get heavier, you might evenf end up putting a stake in and tying branches up to that so they don't flop over.
 
Stranger307

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sensi8739 said:
Feel free to LST and adjust branches to provide maximum light coverage throughout the entire flower process. So long as you are gentle, and be aware of branches limits, you're good to go. As things get heavier, you might evenf end up putting a stake in and tying branches up to that so they don't flop over.
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Could you please by any chance advise if I could use any PH + or -
E.g. for swimming pool?
Attached is what I could find in a regular shop..

Edit: sorry, just noticed that text on the bottles is not in English ..
 

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ANC

ANC

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You will only need one... don't try to play see-saw with pH.
Most likely you will need a pH down, I'd probably take something from a pet shop meant for fish over pool stuff.
(to be honest these thumbnails take way too long to open on my PC)
 
Stranger307

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ANC said:
You will only need one... don't try to play see-saw with pH.
Most likely you will need a pH down, I'd probably take something from a pet shop meant for fish over pool stuff.
(to be honest these thumbnails take way too long to open on my PC)
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What do you think about vinegar etc. (saw this option somewhere on the forum)?
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Stranger307 said:
If I'm counting correctly, it's week 6 now.
I'm pretty happy with the grow, LST is doing great, though I got a couple of concerns...
- shall I stop with LST at some point and let the plant do it's thing (grow buds & chill) or shall I bend and form even conopy till the very harvest?
- after a couple of waterings with nutes, I see some burned tips, so will give just plain water today. Fortunately I've added very little quantities 4-5 ml per 2 l
- today under HPS it seems to me that conopy shows some kind of deficiencies: I can see a bit of curled leaves - heat issue.. But some leaves seems to lose some colour etc. which concerns me much more :(
Uploading photos for your judgement..
Still can't evaluate if the size is ok for week 6 auto

P.S. I think it's important to mention that I don't adjust PH of the water - it's tap water that stands for 24 or more hours in the tent before watering..
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Lay off the nitrogen totally. If giving micros there's nitrogen in that. Nitrogen in the cal mag you should give regularly .
 
Stranger307

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hotrodharley said:
Lay off the nitrogen totally. If giving micros there's nitrogen in that. Nitrogen in the cal mag you should give regularly .
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I don't use cal mag at all... Shall I since I use soil?
The only fertilizer I have is BioBloom, which seems to be a complex one.
From official web-site:
"Complete liquid organic fertilizer. It contains the optimum blend of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium, along with enzymes and amino acids – all working together in perfect harmony with the soil. Trace elements and hormones of vegetable origin have also been added to help create a strong-stemmed and vigorous flowering plant. Potassium and phosphorus help the bulbs, calyces and petals to form and grow. Potassium especially, works with the natural rhythm of the plant throughout the day and night which helps trigger the flowering process."

And I added first time on week 5 probably, since soil mix was pretty packed with nutes. Actually I'm not sure if I need to add any fertilizer at all..
Very confusing :(
 

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hotrodharley

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Stranger307 said:
I don't use cal mag at all... Shall I since I use soil?
The only fertilizer I have is BioBloom, which seems to be a complex one.
From official web-site:
"Complete liquid organic fertilizer. It contains the optimum blend of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium, along with enzymes and amino acids – all working together in perfect harmony with the soil. Trace elements and hormones of vegetable origin have also been added to help create a strong-stemmed and vigorous flowering plant. Potassium and phosphorus help the bulbs, calyces and petals to form and grow. Potassium especially, works with the natural rhythm of the plant throughout the day and night which helps trigger the flowering process."

And I added first time on week 5 probably, since soil mix was pretty packed with nutes. Actually I'm not sure if I need to add any fertilizer at all..
Very confusing :(
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Something is nitrogen packed. The dark green and the leafiness indicate it. No game stopper but would be better to cut. BioBizz doesn't have much itself.
 
Stranger307

Stranger307

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hotrodharley said:
Something is nitrogen packed. The dark green and the leafiness indicate it. No game stopper but would be better to cut. BioBizz doesn't have much itself.
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Bloom fertilizer has N = 2
Soil mix doesn't have NPK on the pack but it's EC = 2,4 which sounds pretty high for me...
Any advise? Shall I just get any micro formula and moderately add, let's say every second watering?
Really appreciate
 
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