So my boss contracted an IT guy to fix our computers...

rollandtoke

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Buying Fapple means buying simple. Apple made their success off of making things as simple for the end user as possible (i.e. A big ass orange icon with a music symbol, AND the word "Music" below it) and America and the rest of the world just soaked it up because it was way easier than trying to learn something new.

While simple isnt necessary a bad thing, it has created a society that doesnt feel motivated to "figure something out"...instead they just say "teach me this or make it simpler"....

And thats where the downfall lies. American corporations have catered to the simplicity of life, trying to prevent us from having to think/solve things. In the end it makes us people who expect shit to "just happen".

Dont get me wrong, the iPod was the best portable music player ever invented, and led to iTunes and a whole new world of digital music, however, Fapple fed off of that energy to take full advantage of not only American society, but the world's population as well.

What's really sad is that hundreds of thousands of disadvantaged Chinese citizens (who have to work insane hours for shitty wages under unsafe conditions) are the ones behind the 100, 000 plus iPads alone each month.

Sorry, not exactly a huge windows fan (fuck WinME, WinVista, Win8!!!) but def not a Fapple fan either
 

xKuroiTaimax

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Going mac isnt gonna help you. There are still viruses for Macs. The reason people think macs are safer is due to the fact that a very small percentage of users use macs, and a majority uses windows, so virus creators will focus on windows for more hits....however...the people who do create Mac viruses know what they are doing and are willing to put in the work to fuck your day up....so while you may not experience the every day attacks, when you DO get a virus, you wont be able to recover.

Macs are good for graphic/web designers and people who are obsessed with fApple
True. I don't know ANYONE who's experienced a virus on their Mac yet, but I know it won't be pretty if/when that day comes. My mac really makes me feel like the whole machine is a creative tool. I sit at the screen and get friendly with the computer... feel inspired. Everything is so smooth, quick and easy... And no BSODS! But knowing how to use Terminal, startup sequences, TDM etc is still a good idea. Backup... And keeping the Apple Store number to hand just in case. Thankfully, they're an awesome bunch and cool to chat to with a cup of coffee while they help you copy your shit over. They even replaced my secondhand iPhone for free...

Of course I get what you're saying. I'm a bit wary of OSX Lion for this reason. I am capable of doing things 'the hard' or simply 'the comfortably traditional' way, but I think the interface of many Mac products is the environment home computing should really be.

I understand we've become a national of impatient people who expect everything to be done for us and there is little motivation for much more than a shallow understanding of many topics. I'm scared of all these template-based website builders. But they have their place.
 

Unnk

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True. I don't know ANYONE who's experienced a virus on their Mac yet, but I know it won't be pretty if/when that day comes. My mac really makes me feel like the whole machine is a creative tool. I sit at the screen and get friendly with the computer... feel inspired. Everything is so smooth, quick and easy... And no BSODS! But knowing how to use Terminal, startup sequences, TDM etc is still a good idea. Backup... And keeping the Apple Store number to hand just in case. Thankfully, they're an awesome bunch and cool to chat to with a cup of coffee while they help you copy your shit over. They even replaced my secondhand iPhone for free...

Of course I get what you're saying. I'm a bit wary of OSX Lion for this reason. I am capable of doing things 'the hard' or simply 'the comfortably traditional' way, but I think the interface of many Mac products is the environment home computing should really be.

I understand we've become a national of impatient people who expect everything to be done for us and there is little motivation for much more than a shallow understanding of many topics. I'm scared of all these template-based website builders. But they have their place.
i ahvent seen a bsod since the early days of win 95 lol

Windows 7 besides alot of downplay is a pretty decent operating system

and if you have a decent mind on you

you can keep the comp clean and running smooth

edit ps

im on the other side

i love INTERFACELESSNESS

thats right running command line all the time
 

xKuroiTaimax

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Maybe the guys at work are browsing too much porn, because the Windows 7/Vista machines are more unstable than me after too much Kool-Aid lol
 

Unnk

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Maybe the guys at work are browsing too much porn, because the Windows 7/Vista machines are more unstable than me after too much Kool-Aid lol
Windows 7 honestly is stable vista is a wreck

but the reason most people think windows 7 isnt stable is because there system has only a gig of ram

most people i know havent updated their computers in 10 years

and ill say this in that 10 years ALOT HAS CHANGED
 

rollandtoke

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Maybe the guys at work are browsing too much porn, because the Windows 7/Vista machines are more unstable than me after too much Kool-Aid lol


Haha, they might be. Could be the systems were the cheaper versions (i.e. able to run Win7 when they sell it to you, but as soon as you add software..."oops...not enough resources..we can sell some to you"..)

welcome to the evil, commission-based IT world of Sales

thats why i dont do sales, I do tech support, i hate fucking people over at the start, Id rather solve their issue, teach them how to learn from their mistakes (so i dont have to do the same shit again later) and move on.
 

guy incognito

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i would say i know my way around computers, plus i do work as a IT tech guy as a part time job from studying.
one time i got a bad virus in a flashdrive but of course windows couldn't get rid of it because it blows chunks.

i plugged the flashdrive into my pc with linux, found the files and killed them right away. linux works great that way because it can read windows files but without the windows restrictions. so ANY file can be deleted once and for all. serious.

you should check a thread i started not long ago ----> THINK NOW, THINK FREE; GET LINUX

if i was you, i would get a lap top with linux and connect all the hard drives and find the bad tomatoes. maybe there are linux-to-windows virus applications.
convince your superiors to dump windows and use linux, much more reliable and cheaper.
It's time to make the plunge. My bedroom desktop is in need of an overhaul. It is old. I know it has problems with it, but I only use it for porn surfing so I don't really care. Time to format it and start fresh with linux.
 

knucklehead

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yes he should scan all PC's on the LAN but sounds like not a big deal. i always make it a point to listen to the users. so i would believe that it came from the mp3 as you say, but i would still scan all of them while i was onsite.
 

rollandtoke

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It's time to make the plunge. My bedroom desktop is in need of an overhaul. It is old. I know it has problems with it, but I only use it for porn surfing so I don't really care. Time to format it and start fresh with linux.
Thats the best thing to do, start with something that isnt worth much to you (if nothing laying around garage/yard sales are awesome for cheap computers) and experiment. You learn best by trying (and if you fail, trying again)
 

guy incognito

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yes he should scan all PC's on the LAN but sounds like not a big deal. i always make it a point to listen to the users. so i would believe that it came from the mp3 as you say, but i would still scan all of them while i was onsite.
They weren't connected. They haven't even been in the same state for a couple weeks. I don't see how they can all run fine for years and years and all of a sudden they ALL need to be disinfected. Or even if you think its a good idea to scan them and run AV software I don't see why we need to contract an IT pro to do it. How hard is it to run an antivirus scan?
 

guy incognito

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Thats the best thing to do, start with something that isnt worth much to you (if nothing laying around garage/yard sales are awesome for cheap computers) and experiment. You learn best by trying (and if you fail, trying again)
worst case is I waste some time and just go back to installing a pirated copy of xp on it. even then I got a fresh format and install still.
 

rollandtoke

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worst case is I waste some time and just go back to installing a pirated copy of xp on it. even then I got a fresh format and install still.
Haha, thats what I do whenever mates bring me comps with unsolvable corruption issues. I warn them I aint saving shit other than any pics/music/docs I can (pop it in a dock or a desktop as a slave to access), then wiping and installing XP. Nobody complains, its cheaper than having to pay a lot of dough for the same thing from a "professional".



I charge a 6-pack-o-beer or a couple good ass blunts to share with while I work for a couple hours :-D
 

......

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they pretty much said the same thing about limewire when I took my computer to geek squad.lol they seemed pissed off I had it installed and said right away whatever problem I have is probably from it.They tried to charge me 120 dollars to delete and reinstall everything.I said fuck that went home and found out I could press like f11 or one of them on the start up and it would do it itself.
 

guy incognito

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Limewire was often bundled with malware/spyware/adware. The entire network was full of infections too. You could potentially download stuff and stay clean, but it was hard.

Torrents on the other hand are not inherently infected. I only get them from one trusted invite only site.
 

guy incognito

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The guy still has not returned our main server. He says removing a virus in xp/vista/7 is childs play, but removing one from server 2008 is a whole different story. He says there aren't nearly as many programs or tools capable of running on server 2008, so he wasn't able to get it up and running yet.

I think the guy is a joker. This wasn't my bedroom pc or something, this is the server for the company, and we have been trying to operate almost a week now without it. I don't know how you wouldn't have everything back in place and running smoothly at this point.

I don't know if he knows what he is talking about. I have never had to remove a virus from the server. I have never had to do anything with the server actually other than set it up the day we bought it, so I don't have any experience trying to run any programs on it.
 
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