So Those People That Knock On Your Door

Bird Gymnastics said:
ha ha yes please answer that. And don't answer like the people at our doors that say, "you should celebrate each and every day as your birthday." lol
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That statement is used by the sheeple minded jw drones that walk around..... There are basically two types of JW... The realists that understand that you need to have a job and you can't walk around for 600000000 hours a week witnessing and we generally go out only on sat for like 1-2 hours tops. Then you have what you all hate and I understand it.... THE SUPER WITNESS!!!!! The super witness thinks that god will provide always and that you should live as a complete poor person in order to do nothing but preach.... This is WRONG! But no one ever remembers the "normal" witnesses and yes some of us toke up. Some of us also watch tons of anime and still give gifts to certain friends but we just make sure the Super Witnesses don't hear about it. Most don't celebrate because we are supposed to give each day to god and the extreme witnesses think it is "false worship" of that person to make a day just for them.... I give gifts and I LOVE CAKE!!!!!! But seriously the people that I have pulled into fellowship with me I had a personal relationship with for a long time. The pamphlet is more of a "Hey bro are you feeling all the hard times that we all are? Well if you are then here is some info on spirituality and if you want more information I will be happy to arrange a meeting." kind of deal. Most of us are happy to discuss things in an open forum of thinking. As for science I mix mine in with my religion. I know the Earth isn't 6000 years old like some sort of whack job. But who's to say that god didn't create everything and let evolution finish off his plans like a built in code like for a computer program. I have no problem with this because you will notice humans are evolving even now. We are supposed to be created in his image so whats to say god is nothing more than a human shell with the ability to use 100% of his brain functions as we are limited to 10%. I love these discussions and bring them up with Super Witnesses just to troll them. But any way the Super Witnesses make up 25-35% of the pool so just brush them off and look for the guy chillin walking up to your house joking with his field service partner. (this is what we call witnessing is going out into field service). I only average like 5-10 hrs of this a month. Feel free to ask questions as long as you are respectful at the same time guys and gals.

P.S.- I have hair almost to my butt and I'm a male plus I grow trees in my closet.... LOTS OF TREES!
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TshirtNinja said:
That statement is used by the sheeple minded jw drones that walk around..... There are basically two types of JW... The realists that understand that you need to have a job and you can't walk around for 600000000 hours a week witnessing and we generally go out only on sat for like 1-2 hours tops. Then you have what you all hate and I understand it.... THE SUPER WITNESS!!!!! The super witness thinks that god will provide always and that you should live as a complete poor person in order to do nothing but preach.... This is WRONG! But no one ever remembers the "normal" witnesses and yes some of us toke up. Some of us also watch tons of anime and still give gifts to certain friends but we just make sure the Super Witnesses don't hear about it. Most don't celebrate because we are supposed to give each day to god and the extreme witnesses think it is "false worship" of that person to make a day just for them.... I give gifts and I LOVE CAKE!!!!!! But seriously the people that I have pulled into fellowship with me I had a personal relationship with for a long time. The pamphlet is more of a "Hey bro are you feeling all the hard times that we all are? Well if you are then here is some info on spirituality and if you want more information I will be happy to arrange a meeting." kind of deal. Most of us are happy to discuss things in an open forum of thinking. As for science I mix mine in with my religion. I know the Earth isn't 6000 years old like some sort of whack job. But who's to say that god didn't create everything and let evolution finish off his plans like a built in code like for a computer program. I have no problem with this because you will notice humans are evolving even now. We are supposed to be created in his image so whats to say god is nothing more than a human shell with the ability to use 100% of his brain functions as we are limited to 10%. I love these discussions and bring them up with Super Witnesses just to troll them. But any way the Super Witnesses make up 25-35% of the pool so just brush them off and look for the guy chillin walking up to your house joking with his field service partner. (this is what we call witnessing is going out into field service). I only average like 5-10 hrs of this a month. Feel free to ask questions as long as you are respectful at the same time guys and gals.

P.S.- I have hair almost to my butt and I'm a male plus I grow trees in my closet.... LOTS OF TREES!
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Wow I am glad that you were able to somewhat clear that up. I didn't mean to come off ignorant in my comments I just think all religion is a "belief." Everyone has their own opinion/"belief." The only thing I can't wrap my head around is what power do they think they have to come to our doors and preach?? I mean if someone is in hard times they should be looking to out sources to help them. (which I guess JW would fall into play) If someone isn't willing to change and/or willing to listen, why waste your time?? Everyone has their belief and I respect that. I am just a person of logic and fall back on the facts evolution can prove. So please don't single me out as someone that is ignorant. I was just ripped and thought it was funny to hear this because those people always come to my door. Sorry if I upset anyone, I was just giving my opinion.

P.s. Good look grow tshirtninja...I'll have to stop by and check it out when I have more time.

Happy smoking! :weed:
 
TshirtNinja said:
That statement is used by the sheeple minded jw drones that walk around..... There are basically two types of JW... The realists that understand that you need to have a job and you can't walk around for 600000000 hours a week witnessing and we generally go out only on sat for like 1-2 hours tops. Then you have what you all hate and I understand it.... THE SUPER WITNESS!!!!! The super witness thinks that god will provide always and that you should live as a complete poor person in order to do nothing but preach.... This is WRONG! But no one ever remembers the "normal" witnesses and yes some of us toke up. Some of us also watch tons of anime and still give gifts to certain friends but we just make sure the Super Witnesses don't hear about it. Most don't celebrate because we are supposed to give each day to god and the extreme witnesses think it is "false worship" of that person to make a day just for them.... I give gifts and I LOVE CAKE!!!!!! But seriously the people that I have pulled into fellowship with me I had a personal relationship with for a long time. The pamphlet is more of a "Hey bro are you feeling all the hard times that we all are? Well if you are then here is some info on spirituality and if you want more information I will be happy to arrange a meeting." kind of deal. Most of us are happy to discuss things in an open forum of thinking. As for science I mix mine in with my religion. I know the Earth isn't 6000 years old like some sort of whack job. But who's to say that god didn't create everything and let evolution finish off his plans like a built in code like for a computer program. I have no problem with this because you will notice humans are evolving even now. We are supposed to be created in his image so whats to say god is nothing more than a human shell with the ability to use 100% of his brain functions as we are limited to 10%. I love these discussions and bring them up with Super Witnesses just to troll them. But any way the Super Witnesses make up 25-35% of the pool so just brush them off and look for the guy chillin walking up to your house joking with his field service partner. (this is what we call witnessing is going out into field service). I only average like 5-10 hrs of this a month. Feel free to ask questions as long as you are respectful at the same time guys and gals.

P.S.- I have hair almost to my butt and I'm a male plus I grow trees in my closet.... LOTS OF TREES!
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What .... the .... fuck .... LOL!! I'm not going to argue with you, but you are not a "JW" man. And if you are and believe the way you do then you are not a real JW. At least I admit I am not a JW anymore and prolly won't ever be again, but I grew up in that religion until i was about 22 years old. To say "Brush Off the "Super" Witnesses" is just wrong and dumb. There are 2 types of witnesses though you are right about that. There are witnesses that devote their life to teaching people the bible and there are those who just have their "toe in the water". You should remember that analogy since it's been used at every district convention since the beginning of time lol. Those are the ones leading the double life. They put on the show for everyone in the Kingdom Hall and then lead their own life outside of it, aka smoking weed and god knows what else. There are witnesses like you said, they work and support their family and don't devote the proper attention to being a JW and they could very well be all for doing right and what not, but mostly not.

As for not celebrating christmas and brithdays. Christmas is believed to be jesus birthday world wide, however it has been proven over and over that jesus was born sometime in late june/august. Which is why the shepards were out in the fields with their flocks in the middle of the night, sleeping in the fields. Also it is why the 3 wise men were able to travel so easy. If it was the end of december, they would have frozen and the flocks wouldn't be sleeping in the fields. So it's a false holiday. JW's do however celebrate his death after sundown on winters solstice. Has something to do with the moon according to the calendar (i forget the name but the date of that calendar is Nissan 14). As far as birthdays, there are 2 birthdays recorded in the bible. One had the head of John the baptist cut off and the other was a Pharoah hanging his chief Baker. Those are the only mention of birthdays in the bible and are examples of murder and nowhere does it say to continue celebrating them. It does however tell of the story of the last super where it says "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me .... until he comes". 1 Cor 11:24-26. That is the only mention of the bible telling us to keep doing (celebrating) things.

Now there are gifts given to other witnesses all the time, so you saying "Most don't celebrate because we are supposed to give each day to god and the extreme witnesses think it is "false worship" of that person to make a day just for them" is retarded. What about weddings? Graduations? etc etc... Witnesses have been giving gifts like that all over the place. Jesus first miracle was giving a gift at a wedding, water to wine.

I'm sorry man, yer a little messed up there. I'm not defending the witnesses here because in all honesty they don't need me to do it lol. I just don't like people sitting here saying they are something they are not and lying to everyone else like this.

EDIT: I also wanna know how watching anime had anything to do with .... anything lol!!! I about cried laughing when I read that, was like BAM!! hit me from the side, out of nowhere! LOL!!!! What hall do you go to and who is your Presiding Overseer?
 
Slojo69 said:
What .... the .... fuck .... LOL!! I'm not going to argue with you, but you are not a "JW" man. And if you are and believe the way you do then you are not a real JW. At least I admit I am not a JW anymore and prolly won't ever be again, but I grew up in that religion until i was about 22 years old. To say "Brush Off the "Super" Witnesses" is just wrong and dumb. There are 2 types of witnesses though you are right about that. There are witnesses that devote their life to teaching people the bible and there are those who just have their "toe in the water". You should remember that analogy since it's been used at every district convention since the beginning of time lol. Those are the ones leading the double life. They put on the show for everyone in the Kingdom Hall and then lead their own life outside of it, aka smoking weed and god knows what else. There are witnesses like you said, they work and support their family and don't devote the proper attention to being a JW and they could very well be all for doing right and what not, but mostly not.

As for not celebrating christmas and brithdays. Christmas is believed to be jesus birthday world wide, however it has been proven over and over that jesus was born sometime in late june/august. Which is why the shepards were out in the fields with their flocks in the middle of the night, sleeping in the fields. Also it is why the 3 wise men were able to travel so easy. If it was the end of december, they would have frozen and the flocks wouldn't be sleeping in the fields. So it's a false holiday. JW's do however celebrate his death after sundown on winters solstice. Has something to do with the moon according to the calendar (i forget the name but the date of that calendar is Nissan 14). As far as birthdays, there are 2 birthdays recorded in the bible. One had the head of John the baptist cut off and the other was a Pharoah hanging his chief Baker. Those are the only mention of birthdays in the bible and are examples of murder and nowhere does it say to continue celebrating them. It does however tell of the story of the last super where it says "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me .... until he comes". 1 Cor 11:24-26. That is the only mention of the bible telling us to keep doing (celebrating) things.

Now there are gifts given to other witnesses all the time, so you saying "Most don't celebrate because we are supposed to give each day to god and the extreme witnesses think it is "false worship" of that person to make a day just for them" is retarded. What about weddings? Graduations? etc etc... Witnesses have been giving gifts like that all over the place. Jesus first miracle was giving a gift at a wedding, water to wine.

I'm sorry man, yer a little messed up there. I'm not defending the witnesses here because in all honesty they don't need me to do it lol. I just don't like people sitting here saying they are something they are not and lying to everyone else like this.

EDIT: I also wanna know how watching anime had anything to do with .... anything lol!!! I about cried laughing when I read that, was like BAM!! hit me from the side, out of nowhere! LOL!!!! What hall do you go to and who is your Presiding Overseer?
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You already know im not going to give you my hall and overseer's info (my hall does have 4 congregations though).... stop trollin! I've been in the truth for 2 years and there are a lot of people that understand that your whole life cannot just be only about witnessing. I go theocratic ministry school weekly and put forth hours monthly. Not all witnesses are closed minded and have to follow the herd of people that do something just because some random set of "elders" will not take there own heads out of the sand. Anime is because i know TONS of witnesses not allowed to view it at all because it contains either ''occult material" or has magic of some sort in it. You sound like a vendictive member that lived by that tired all or nothing mentality that makes people dislike witnesses. Just because you witness to the world doesn't mean that you have to go HULK SUPER WITNESS and put in 70-80 hours a month of service time. Someone has to pay for the lights to stay on at the hall. Guess who places whatever is needed when my hall says they are short on funds to pay for things.... ME. I don't make a stink or even honestly outside of that last statement let ANYONE know that I am the one putting in quite a bit of the difference. But bro, don't come on here telling me that I'm not something. BTW would you like to come to my convention with me in June? lol should be a fun time I'm sure..... Looking forward to the drama this year as it's my favorite thing. Are you an apostate? If not why did you leave? My views are realistic and having my own opinion about life and the order of things is what Jehovah would want. He is the one that will judge me and if I died tomorrow, I would be ok with my choices.
 
TshirtNinja said:
You already know im not going to give you my hall and overseer's info (my hall does have 4 congregations though).... stop trollin! I've been in the truth for 2 years and there are a lot of people that understand that your whole life cannot just be only about witnessing. I go theocratic ministry school weekly and put forth hours monthly. Not all witnesses are closed minded and have to follow the herd of people that do something just because some random set of "elders" will not take there own heads out of the sand. Anime is because i know TONS of witnesses not allowed to view it at all because it contains either ''occult material" or has magic of some sort in it. You sound like a vendictive member that lived by that tired all or nothing mentality that makes people dislike witnesses. Just because you witness to the world doesn't mean that you have to go HULK SUPER WITNESS and put in 70-80 hours a month of service time. Someone has to pay for the lights to stay on at the hall. Guess who places whatever is needed when my hall says they are short on funds to pay for things.... ME. I don't make a stink or even honestly outside of that last statement let ANYONE know that I am the one putting in quite a bit of the difference. But bro, don't come on here telling me that I'm not something. BTW would you like to come to my convention with me in June? lol should be a fun time I'm sure..... Looking forward to the drama this year as it's my favorite thing. Are you an apostate? If not why did you leave? My views are realistic and having my own opinion about life and the order of things is what Jehovah would want. He is the one that will judge me and if I died tomorrow, I would be ok with my choices.
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Well for one, to clear it up, I left because I'm lazy and am prolly going to die for it. That about sums it up without going into detail. I am not an apostate lol. Sorry man, but your views of how things in the witness world are, are distorted and wrong. I'm not saying they are wrong as far as your opinion and how you want to live your life goes. But as far as bible teachings go and the "witness way of life" goes, you are not doing it right lol. These "random" set of elders are ones that have been witnesses their whole life pretty much, been pioneers, went to pioneer school, went to ministerial servant school and finally the elder training. They have devoted their life to the bible and to the JW's way. Is that something to tell people to not pay attention to? Those guys are some of the smartest and well rounded people I've ever met. Your elder's are there for a reason, not to spank you when yer bad, but if you have questions they are the ones to go to. You seem to have a problem with thinking they are authoritative which is not the case. You have to remember they are human to and are going to make mistakes. Also you have to realize that there are some halls that have fallen to the wayside and don't have god's blessing. There were tons of articles on that subject in the awake when i was pioneering. Sad but true. One hall for example was in Burns, OR. There was a new circuit overseer that was visiting for the first time and was SO shocked about how that hall operated that he had an elders meeting right after the sunday meeting and told them he was reporting this to the governing body in Bethel. The reader for the watchtower was wearing a hawaiin shirt with a tie and no suit coat, complete lack of respect. The guy giving the public talk used foul language and the elders were all of the same family and ran the hall into the ground. Not sure what happened there or even if it's still a congregation. But it goes to show that just because you "claim" to be a witness, does not mean you are living you life as one!
 
BrotherBuz said:
How do you rationalize giving talks while smoking dope?
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I dont blaze up and go out. That's like witnesses that still decide to drink. If I even drank 2-3 beers and didn't feel anything I still wouldn't go out like that. If I smoke it is at home or at a friends house.
 
Slojo69 said:
Well for one, to clear it up, I left because I'm lazy and am prolly going to die for it. That about sums it up without going into detail. I am not an apostate lol. Sorry man, but your views of how things in the witness world are, are distorted and wrong. I'm not saying they are wrong as far as your opinion and how you want to live your life goes. But as far as bible teachings go and the "witness way of life" goes, you are not doing it right lol. These "random" set of elders are ones that have been witnesses their whole life pretty much, been pioneers, went to pioneer school, went to ministerial servant school and finally the elder training. They have devoted their life to the bible and to the JW's way. Is that something to tell people to not pay attention to? Those guys are some of the smartest and well rounded people I've ever met. Your elder's are there for a reason, not to spank you when yer bad, but if you have questions they are the ones to go to. You seem to have a problem with thinking they are authoritative which is not the case. You have to remember they are human to and are going to make mistakes. Also you have to realize that there are some halls that have fallen to the wayside and don't have god's blessing. There were tons of articles on that subject in the awake when i was pioneering. Sad but true. One hall for example was in Burns, OR. There was a new circuit overseer that was visiting for the first time and was SO shocked about how that hall operated that he had an elders meeting right after the sunday meeting and told them he was reporting this to the governing body in Bethel. The reader for the watchtower was wearing a hawaiin shirt with a tie and no suit coat, complete lack of respect. The guy giving the public talk used foul language and the elders were all of the same family and ran the hall into the ground. Not sure what happened there or even if it's still a congregation. But it goes to show that just because you "claim" to be a witness, does not mean you are living you life as one!
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This just goes to show you how all religions are whack! You two have some similar beliefs about JW but because of being told different things while growing up you both can't agree about what is "right" and what is "wrong." Think it's quite funny. :)
 
BlazedMonkey said:
Mormons, jehovas witness, christians they all go around asking if you would like to hear about the will of god or Mr. Jesus.:sleep:

How do you feel about... oh lets say dosing someone without thier knowledge??

Because wouldnt it be possible to put on gloves dip/rub lsd on your gloves then shake their hand ? Yes no?

Just curious what you thought :P
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What I am thinking would draw an infraction if I expressed it properly.

I'll edit myself and just say that what you are proposing is despicable.
 
BlazedMonkey said:
True i wouldnt want to give anything to anyone they wouldnt enjoy either.
I was less concerned with stopping solicitation i just thought it would be appropriate to solicit my own beliefs
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Hang a fucking sign on your door if it bothers you so much.

If they ignore the sign, eat their asses out.
 
BrotherBuz said:
I know how to read and interpret Scripture myself. We could compare knowledge.
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I'll compare knowledge all you want, I wasn't telling YOU to go to them, I was saying there are witnesses that need help understanding things and the elders are the ones to go to if you have a question or problem.

TshirtNinja said:
I dont blaze up and go out. That's like witnesses that still decide to drink. If I even drank 2-3 beers and didn't feel anything I still wouldn't go out like that. If I smoke it is at home or at a friends house.
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Drinking isn't illegal though :D And the bible says to follow the laws of the land (your government) unless it interfers with god's laws ... I'm pretty sure smoking weed has nothing to do with god's law :D

Bird Gymnastics said:
This just goes to show you how all religions are whack! You two have some similar beliefs about JW but because of being told different things while growing up you both can't agree about what is "right" and what is "wrong." Think it's quite funny. :)
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I wasn't told anything different than he was and I can guarantee that. He even said that his views are the realistic ones and that his own opinion on things are what jehovah would want. His own words right there. We are told to make a conscience decision on most things, aka what movies to watch (what movies promote violence and desensitizing themes that make you use to seeing violent images) , what people to hang out with (bad association spoils useful habits) etc etc. I can guarantee the fact that him smoking weed would put him on what wintesses call, either public reproof or disfellowshiped, which means socially barred from the congregation until he shows signs of repentance and that he has stopped doing what he is doing. That is one of the reasons i stopped being a witness btw, to know if someone is considered this bad association, these elders do what they call sheparding calls, which are nice most of the time untill they are doing the calls because they somehow heard you and your wife are doing anal or some shit that is private and they feel they need to invade your privacy to determine if you are bad association. That reason and the fact that I'm lazy and just don't want to go to meeting or go out in service anymore lol!

BrotherBuz said:
Tshirtninja -

What I meant was, how does your conscience allow you to lead a double life - I'm I clear?
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The fact that you agree with me saying he leads a double life totally negates your previous comment of you saying "This just goes to show you how all religions are whack! You two have some similar beliefs about JW but because of being told different things while growing up you both can't agree about what is "right" and what is "wrong." Think it's quite funny." ..... silly people :D
 
Slojo69 said:
The fact that you agree with me saying he leads a double life totally negates your previous comment of you saying "This just goes to show you how all religions are whack! You two have some similar beliefs about JW but because of being told different things while growing up you both can't agree about what is "right" and what is "wrong." Think it's quite funny." ..... silly people :D
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I did mention the double life, but the rest of the comments are not mine.
 
Slojo69 said:
". . .calls, which are nice most of the time untill they are doing the calls because they somehow heard you and your wife are doing anal or some shit that is private and they feel they need to invade your privacy to determine if you are bad association.
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I love "Jah" apparently as you do, but I would be hard-pressed to allow anyone in house, instructing me on private matters. Won't happen!
 
Slojo69 said:
Drinking isn't illegal though :D And the bible says to follow the laws of the land (your government) unless it interfers with god's laws ... I'm pretty sure smoking weed has nothing to do with god's law :D
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Should he follow illegal laws?

Lets say that MJ improved the quality of Tshiryninja’s life and was less expensive then Wellbrutrin, Paxil and Abilify. Common sense detates to me to grow the plant. What about you?

If the Periwinkle tree was outlawed,but it alleviated my . . . what would common sense dictate to do? bongsmilie
 
I tey to keep in mind that while I may not believe as they do about prosletyzing, THEY believe they are doing a noble, Christian act. When my son makes me a meal on his own, it doesn't always taste good b/c he has yet to learn to control the amount of seasonings he puts in even though he and I have had this discussion many times. However, when he brings it to me and serves me dinner, regardless of how it tastes, I would never go off on him for the seasonings. Why? Because he did it with good intentions. In his heart, the seasonings are less important than the fact that he gave up play time to work and fix me a meal. Why? Because he did it out of LOVE. And that's the way many people feel about sharing the story of God. It tells them to in the basis of their beliefs. The Bible.
 
Slojo-

I've always wondered, why the society does not use black & white couples on the front of their magazines? Will you answer that question and the others too?

Thanks!
 
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