So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

I make yogurt and Kefir. My dog eats a raw diet. Living food, living soil.

Uncle Pirate said:

Not knocking the organic growers, but this is funny shit.

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Ya, that is funny. Reminds me that if I had you sample both cyanide and bitter almond oil, they taste the same, so maybe they are the same?

Rrog said:

Ya, that is funny. Reminds me that if I had you sample both cyanide and bitter almond oil, they taste the same, so maybe they are the same?

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^^^^^^^^^^^^no^^^^^^^^^^^THAT'S funny!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rrog said:

Ya, that is funny. Reminds me that if I had you sample both cyanide and bitter almond oil, they taste the same, so maybe they are the same?

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Ya too bad they're taste testing bananas and not cyanide, that stupid brunette bitch could use some. Are you suggesting chem nutes are poison?

So there is no way fox farms can live with soil? not possible huh? OK, if I have to choose.... And P.S. fuck planet 10 and the red lectroids.

lol. don't understand that last sentence but I like it. ....just got back from waving thawing bulk meats boxes around the vegetarian forum.

I've used the fox farms for well over a year now. It gets the job done. I want better though. Then as I put in extra expensive shit like Great White, the great white is what cannot
live with Fox Farms. See we need to either grow in soil with chemical nutrients OR go organic, and get our soil living, as well as, the actual plant. Now I really feel that Fox Farms
bottled nutrients is not the way for me to go. I am going to try the organic soil. If that doesn't work, then I will probably try straight coco. I need to feed them this morning and I
don't know what I am going to use. I guess the Fox Farms big bloom and some Neptune's Harvest Liquid dead fish.
Maybe look at Root's Organic nutes for the next month or so of soil plants.

I googled buckaroo bonzai and watched some clips of the crazy-ass show and read aobut the crazy ass comic. 8th dimensions and all that, I had to get clued in. I'll be rolling like glad up above me here, I'm making a slow transition to organic for the better but it's so hard to let go of what I know works so well so for me I will be doing like a 1 of 7-9 plants in each rotation as organic attempts until they don't look like the sad little step children of the fox farms family. When I need a minute to remember by looking at them who is organic-then I will switch but fungi and nematodes (sp?) and poo feed and re-using soil is all tough as a start. My base to start will be supersoil subs way minus the roots organic II can mix up some other base and add mycos like I have been I jsut need enough amendments to hlod up the colony and keep food coming thru the cycle. I'd like to ask if anyone has any specific to cannabis books about living soil they can recomend. I like to start as specific as I can and then broaden from there, start with weed and move back to other plants and maybe my outdoor veg garden can reap the whirlwind of organic bliss too.

Best book I've read so far is Teaming With Microbes. It's serious soil science as acknowledged by the scientific community. I love the Rev, but I'm looking to avoid bottled supplements, though I'm sure the supplements he suggests are organic and great.

I'm modifying this post because now that I read it again, it's was clearly disrespectful, and that was not my intention.

I just ordered the Roots Organic players pack, to use on my plants now, until my soil is mixed, and baked.
Fuck Sub and his dirt, I will order you a True Living Organics book this morning for you from Amazon.
You need more shit, and there are more steps, but it should be much better product and the book explains
everything very clearly. Plus everything is in Skunk magazine, so that is cool also.
When all my shit is set up here soon, I'll jump over to the Skunk Magazine forum and there
should be several people to help with more info, then bring that info back here.

Rrog said:

Best book I've read so far is Teaming With Microbes. It's serious soil science as acknowledged by the scientific community. I love the Rev, but the HD soil guys are not impressed by TLO, and neither am I.

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Who are the HD soil guys?

I already perused Revs book. He's a great man for his role in promoting organic. I was only reviewing the soil amendments and fertilization products.

By HD I meant Heavy Duty. Horticulture and Botany scientists and academicians. U of M soil science types. I like the enormous amounts of data to support what we're doing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm evolving past Supersoil in my next grow after I move. I want to build soil from scratch with a specific eye towards No-Till because it's dirt cheap.

I guess I've become a real soil snob. I certainly promote all organic efforts, however.

MAN sub pissssssed you off! I'd like to have been a fly and know wtf you said or did to get at you like that! I'd prolly be like fuck sub too but that'd probably go against your good nature and non shit talking ways. enemy of my friend is my enemy! Fuck Subcool!

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Im still rookie, but I have 3 grow under my belt I use foxfarm ocean forest and foxfarm big bloom in the flower phase and no other additives Does that count as organic ?

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st0wandgrow said:

My take on that is that the beneficial microbes essentially starve to death over a period of time because they aren't able to break down the synthetic nutrients like they can they organically derived nutrients.

I think??

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I think it has something to do with chem nutes being salt-based, and soil organisms not getting along so well with salts - think what salt does to slugs. Dehydrates them.

Rrog said:

Was that a quote from "Teaming With Microbes"?

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It was from MM's site microbeorganics.com