So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

Mad Hamish

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What an EPIC thread. And thanks for all the kind offers for help with getting the right organic goods, all of you! The hydro sections are like a warzone. You Organic Gurus are just such awesome people. I'm starting to feel right at home :)
 

captainmorgan

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According to Growstone,it holds slightly less water than perlite but almost twice the air that perlite does so I should be good on the aeration. I thought the biochars main use was as a nutrient, like after a fire in the forest when growth explodes.
 

Rrog

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Capt- is is all of those things. It's just that it additionally makes a nice aeration amendment if sized properly. Did the soil get muddy at all?
 

captainmorgan

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Not at all it looks great, I made it Saturday and checked it today. At first I was worried at how much water I needed to add but the peat was very dry and with all the other dry ingredients it came out perfect with a gallon per cubic foot. The only bad thing is it won't be ready for my new plants when I need it so I'll have to get by with a regular soil mix and ferts for them, I'm out of my regular super soil.
 

captainmorgan

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On the subject of biochar, I got a free sample of Veg+Bloom Dirty that I'll be trying out with the regular soil run I have to do with a couple plants till my new batch is done cooking. It claims to have organic carbon added to this new recipe from HR. It has a gray color and the regular V+B is a blue-green color. I use V+B during veg and really like it's simplicity and PH balancing, my plants are always very healthy.

http://www.hydroponic-research.com/our-products/
 

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Rrog

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Cool! See what happens!

EDIT:

How cool to see MI so interested in soil. This thread has over 1000 responses and 22k views. I hope that all of your participation has helped a lot of folks try soil. Take control. Do it yourself. These are important issues, I feel.

Anyway, thanks for making the thread interesting enough to keep people reading and trying.
 

captainmorgan

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Rrog do you have a schedule posted somewhere for amending this recipe after each grow and the teas you recommend during each cycle?
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I really do appreciate this thread so much. I have had a ton come together for me since reading through the entire thread. Thanks to all of you. Thank you Rrog. :clap:
 

Rrog

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'Tis a fun thread. For me, anyway.

Capt- No schedule. Each plant is different. Mostly if a person had a worm bin, you add the same amendments (not the minerals or liming agents) to the worm bin, then from the worm bin to the pot. The nutrients have all been safely stored so no chance to burn anything.

I'm working on a tea schedule, however. Stay tuned.
 

captainmorgan

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Here you go Rrog,dirt porn.
Turned my 5 cu ft over today to check the moisture and it looks great, even had the start of a web on top.Took a pic before putting it in my shed.
 

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GandalfdaGreen

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Here you go Rrog,dirt porn.
Turned my 5 cu ft over today to check the moisture and it looks great, even had the start of a web on top.Took a pic before putting it in my shed.
Did the same thing. Is it ok to let it cook for 4+ months? Is there anything I should do special for that type of length?
 

Rrog

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That will hasten the initial "cooking" process due to the live roots. Nothing gets the colony crackin' like live roots to tend to. And the clover obviously can be busy securing atmospheric N into the soil also. No worries about pests landing in the soil with the lid off. The pre-loaded crab shell, neem , VermiCompost and any predators (BTI, Nematodes) will be busy feasting and keeping watch.

For mite infestations that may occur later, here's a note from Gas-

Hello,my name is Gascanastan and I'm a Dr Bronner's user.

It started sometime around 1990 at a National Rainbow gathering where I was turned on to the multiple uses of Dr B's. Back then it was a marvel to be used as a back country toothpaste,dish soap,etc,etc.

Now we have come to understand the finer qualities of Dr B's when it comes to a natural product we can use in gardening. A simple,safe,ecologically conscience,and easy soap to use that has a high percentage of essential oils which aid in the irradiation of pests and molds when incorporated in a properly implemented IMP program.

I prefer the peppermint,lavender,and tea tree when combating mites. I try to switch it up at least every 3 times I spray.

To start I'll use 1 teaspoon per gallon of water and that seems to work well without leaving a residue or causing tissue damage.
 

Rrog

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Yep- You can toss clover on the soil a week before chop if there's enough light down that low. After chop, their lighting needs are not great. Set them off to the side of another grow and they'll grow fine.

When transplanting or simply inserting a seed or clone- just leave all the cover crop. It's still helping. As the Canna grows, the light will choke out the clover. Just cover it with amendments and it'll return from whence it came. All being digested and stored as future nutes. No waste. Couple pennies worth of seeds...

Side note- Ya gotta love the Captain- he's always jumping right the hell in if he sniffs potential. We should be glad he's on our front lines.
 

captainmorgan

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So if I fill my 15 gal pots with the new 5 day old soil mix and seeded some clover in them how soon do you think I would be able to transplant some clones into them?
 
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