Socialist hellhole California moves from 8th to 6th largest economy in the world, surpassing France

choomer

choomer

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Fogdog said:
And you have nothing. Do you know that uselessly using long words makes a person seem stupid?
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...and not understanding them proves the fact?

I have you and Bucky, and there is no more apt fodder than you losers waiting for reply to earn your troll points.
 
Fogdog

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choomer said:
Jesus, and I'm "melting down".
No matter how much it creams your jeans, Hillary has never been pres.
This is just a touch more significant in regards to grasp of reality than the altar/alter thing you wax the jimmy w/.



While you're right about Obummer getting handed a $1.4T deficit, but you're forgetting that $700B of that was for TARP to bail out banks because those banks had been playing fast and loose w/ investments and affiliations/acquisitions due to repealing the Glass-Steagall Legislation enacted in 1933 after such collusion had helped bring about the Great Depression.

9 years after Slick Wille signed the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act into law the 2008 meltdown happened.
Now the intervening 8 years of Shrub presidency had all the opportunity in the world to annul that act, enact tougher oversite to lending institutions, etc. and they didn't do it.

But the fault is shared, if not originated, by Clinton signing it.

That still leaves $700B+ completely and totally Shrub/congress and after 9/11, WMDs, Katrina, etc. comedy of errors we know they are completely responsible for that (quite a few of those same congress critters still effect legislation as of this time).

But opposite to the “structure” you cite, presidents are only affected primarily by their 1st years budget being decided before they are in office.

Presidents sign the budget, they don't make it. They can decline to sign it forcing congress to draft another proposal as they have for countless law proposals they have to sign into law.
If you believe they can't you don't understand the separation of gov't powers.
So Barry is on the hook for 3 years of $1T+ deficits adding to the already (through bi-partisan effort) horrific total.

Deficits are a yearly thing, debt is (has become) forever.....and Barry has racked up the most, period.

BTW, is the “linking to the information you provide” thing something you haven't learned yet?
It's a bit hard to believe w/ 94K posts over 10 years as of May (gotta credit @rollitup sig for that tidbit) you haven't found how handy that can be for someone that wants to form their own opinion.

94000/10=9400/365=25.75 posts a day. More than 1 an hour for 10 years.
...and yet you have a decade+ history of tax paying employment.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You a bridge salesLGBTq?
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To cut the shitty writing short, I'll translate:
Bill Clinton caused the 2008 financial crisis when he signed the bill to repeal Glass Steagal act
Obama caused the debt to grow

Funny that, way funny and way too loose with excuses. You know what they say about excuses? Excuses are for losers, like you.

GWB just sat there and let Glass Steagal repeal cause the melt down. Really that's pretty poor management wouldn't you agree? Like monumentally poor. Except that he did have much to do with the finacial crisis. Like deciding to let banks self regulate credit default swaps, which were at the heart of the financial meltdown. What a bogus weak argument you made.

Moving on to Obama. Isn't it true that Congress writes the spending bills? That said, tell me how we can reduce the debt without running a surplus. GWB inherited a surplus. So, to shorten this discussion, I'll just use a meme.
 
choomer

choomer

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Fogdog said:
To cut the shitty writing short, I'll translate:
Bill Clinton caused the 2008 financial crisis when he signed the bill to repeal Glass Steagal act
Obama caused the debt to grow

Funny that, way funny and way too loose with excuses. You know what they say about excuses? Excuses are for losers, like you.

GWB just sat there and let Glass Steagal repeal cause the melt down. Really that's pretty poor management wouldn't you agree? Like monumentally poor. Except that he did have much to do with the finacial crisis. Like deciding to let banks self regulate credit default swaps, which were at the heart of the financial meltdown. What a bogus weak argument you made.
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Funny you should reiterate what I said in the post you quote. Does that mean your really don't read what is posted?
Just an observation, should it get your panties in a bunch, STFU and save us from future "skwragdog filler".

Fogdog said:
Moving on to Obama. Isn't it true that Congress writes the spending bills? That said, tell me how we can reduce the debt without running a surplus. GWB inherited a surplus. So, to shorten this discussion, I'll just use a meme.
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Again, something alluded to in my post you quote.
You're new and Bucky is filling you with the "essence of trolldom", right?

Just make sure you get the agreed upon $50 for it 1st.
 
choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
so how is obama's slashing of the deficit leading us to a path of fiscal insolvency?

and would you vote for david duke over hillary clinton?
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Bucky, If I wanted to answer your questions I'd start with the other pathetic examples you've littered the thread with before.

But until you answer my questions, you may jam those you have for me into the same place you put the parts of my posts that are "inconvenient".

Paid troll @ 24+ posts EVERY day for 10 YEARS, or just lifeless loser?

Answer me that and you get your David/Hitlary answer.
 
Fogdog

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choomer said:
Funny you should reiterate what I said in the post you quote. Does that mean your really don't read what is posted?
Just an observation, should it get your panties in a bunch, STFU and save us from future "skwragdog filler".



Again, something alluded to in my post you quote.
You're new and Bucky is filling you with the "essence of trolldom", right?

Just make sure you get the agreed upon $50 for it 1st.
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wordy little bastard. You just got owned again, bitch.

You now can make two sandwiches.
 
choomer

choomer

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Fogdog said:
wordy little bastard. You just got owned again, bitch.

You now can make two sandwiches.
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I got owned again for you saying what I had just said, and then pointing it out?

(Person of darker than Caucasian skin color that presently refers to themselves as an hyphenated American originating from Africa, rather then just an American), PLEASE! ;)
 
choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
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...and you are what you claim others to be, a sock puppet furthering someones agenda.

Instead of bringing a NEW argument, try addressing the ones asked?

Just a suggestion. If you want to prove what I claim you are, carry on in your present manner.

EDIT Let's just keep chanting, "94000 posts in 10 years is a post per hour, every hour." until you 'fess up to being a paid troll/site owner OR (if you are said site owner) site banishment.

Either way will prove my point. Your move.
 
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Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Fogdog said:
To cut the shitty writing short, I'll translate:
Bill Clinton caused the 2008 financial crisis when he signed the bill to repeal Glass Steagal act
Obama caused the debt to grow

Funny that, way funny and way too loose with excuses. You know what they say about excuses? Excuses are for losers, like you.

GWB just sat there and let Glass Steagal repeal cause the melt down. Really that's pretty poor management wouldn't you agree? Like monumentally poor. Except that he did have much to do with the finacial crisis. Like deciding to let banks self regulate credit default swaps, which were at the heart of the financial meltdown. What a bogus weak argument you made.

Moving on to Obama. Isn't it true that Congress writes the spending bills? That said, tell me how we can reduce the debt without running a surplus. GWB inherited a surplus. So, to shorten this discussion, I'll just use a meme.
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Look it up. Glass steagal repeal caused the banking crisis.

Bush and clintons are in bed together. Quit trying to make it republican vs democrat.

Also debt is not the same as deficit. Our debt is skyrocketing.
 
Fogdog

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Flaming Pie said:
Look it up. Glass steagal repeal caused the banking crisis.

Bush and clintons are in bed together. Quit trying to make it republican vs democrat.

Also debt is not the same as deficit. Our debt is skyrocketing.
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Glass Steagal was passed in 1998. A dumb act to allow banks to both hold savings and act as investment groups. Should not have passed congress or been signed. The heart of the crisis came from Bush's decision to allow banks to self regulate credit default swaps. Look that up. The crisis hit in 2008. George Bush was prez for most of that decade. You paint him as some passive helpless idiot who just let the crisis happen. Then again, maybe you are right. This is my point.

Glass Steagal restrictions have not yet been put back in place. This should be an issue this year but it's not In fact, Congress just took a crack at further deregulation. There is plenty of blame to go around for this..
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Glass Steagal was passed in 1998. A dumb act to allow banks to both hold savings and act as investment groups. Should not have passed congress or been signed. The heart of the crisis came from Bush's decision to allow banks to self regulate credit default swaps. Look that up. The crisis hit in 2008. George Bush was prez for most of that decade. You paint him as some passive helpless idiot who just let the crisis happen. Then again, maybe you are right. This is my point.

Glass Steagal restrictions have not yet been put back in place. This should be an issue this year but it's not In fact, Congress just took a crack at further deregulation. There is plenty of blame to go around for this..
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Oh yeah, because bank DEregulation is what got us into this mess, so more will get us out!
 
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