Sberarducci
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Really ? Why is that ? People transplant all the time. That small thing will die if I put it in a bigger pot lol
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VincenzioVonHook
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Plants don't magically die from being in a big pot, they die from terrible watering habits. Every plant I have grown previously has gone straight into a 3 gallon pots and all have done perfectly fine.
Milky Weed
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Yea, i made the mistake of starting seedlings out in 1.3g pots. I just followed the advice of watering in a ring around in a circle an inch from the stem and they grew healthy.
Sberarducci
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That’s a picture of it! I got it on Amazon a lot of people in the reviews had a lot of cannabis plants used with it so I got it. Yeah I know that’s why I was nervous to bring it closer but so far it’s doing good since I moved it closer! it is growing fast though!
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Sberarducci
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That’s what I’m doing now ! I do a circle near the stem. I made the mistake at first of doing the whole pot & letting it completely drain so we’ll see & that was days ago when I first watered it.
Sberarducci
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Grow Light with Stand, LBW Full Spectrum 150W LED Floor Plant Light for Indoor Plants, Grow Lamp with On/Off Switch, Adjustable Tripod Stand 15-48 inches https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08B557W5D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_GB8GACQP8J5M1XRAKRAC
this is the exact light !
Sberarducci
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I’m also going to get this 10 gallon pot when it outgrows the small pot !
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visajoe1
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are you going to use this light for the entire grow? if so, do not use a 10g pot. 2g would be plenty, 3g max.
simply not enough light, need a lot more. that light only pulls 26w from the wall.
for now, run it 10-12" from the seedling
Sberarducci
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I mean if it’s really that serious I can literally just buy another one of those lights. I’m not buying a $100 light if that what you’re trying to get at lol if not I’ll just get another one & a 5 gallon pot ? You think that will be fine ?
Gregshed
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Big pots favour big plants, repotting is the better method to start with and teaches you a lot more. You will be surprised how much root that little pot holds when you repot which is ages away.
Light is important, that light will work but too close and you just get stunted small plants, too far and it stretches too thin. The plants on the right had too much light, they went red in parts and stunted, more doesn't always mean more and luckily they don't need much so you don't have to worry yet for a while.
I think getting the right distance of my lights was the hardest sticking point, the soil feeds, it's obvious when they want water, not much else to it.
Light is important, that light will work but too close and you just get stunted small plants, too far and it stretches too thin. The plants on the right had too much light, they went red in parts and stunted, more doesn't always mean more and luckily they don't need much so you don't have to worry yet for a while.
I think getting the right distance of my lights was the hardest sticking point, the soil feeds, it's obvious when they want water, not much else to it.
visajoe1
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budget is understandable, not knocking what you're doing, just giving objective opinion based on experience.
there is a couple ways to go on this, grab another budget light or work with what you have. with either option there is different things that can be done to get the best out of the situation.
one plant typically uses a 2x2 area or 4 sq ft. your 26w light, provides for 3.5w per sq ft, but the distance it needs to be to cover this area probably doesnt leave much ppf. the spec sheet for it says 450ppf at 12", but not sure about the footprint size. this is ok for seedlings or clones, but not rooted plants if we're looking for robust growth.
with LED typically we have 25-50w per sq ft, with the upper end being ideal. personally i run 40w per sq ft and run 3g pots with co2
since the wattage is so low in those lights, your plants will not be working hard enough to dry out a 5g or 10g pot in any reasonable amount of time. for example, would you drink more or less water sitting outside in the shade for a week straight vs outside in sun doing physical activity 12hrs per day?
trying to illustrate the concept here that a low intensity light does not need a large pot. and in this particular case, given what appears to be minimal growing experience, using a large pot with this low wattage light will likely contribute to more issues than solve or eliminate. perhaps, you could be the exception.
if you can get closer to the LED range above i highly recommend it, if not we'll go to plan B: plant training. its all good my guy, happy growin
its enough light his plant will flower in 2- 3 weeks and not get very big depending on how much it stalls out from being bound and repottingbudget is understandable, not knocking what you're doing, just giving objective opinion based on experience.
there is a couple ways to go on this, grab another budget light or work with what you have. with either option there is different things that can be done to get the best out of the situation.
one plant typically uses a 2x2 area or 4 sq ft. your 26w light, provides for 3.5w per sq ft, but the distance it needs to be to cover this area probably doesnt leave much ppf. the spec sheet for it says 450ppf at 12", but not sure about the footprint size. this is ok for seedlings or clones, but not rooted plants if we're looking for robust growth.
with LED typically we have 25-50w per sq ft, with the upper end being ideal. personally i run 40w per sq ft and run 3g pots with co2
since the wattage is so low in those lights, your plants will not be working hard enough to dry out a 5g or 10g pot in any reasonable amount of time. for example, would you drink more or less water sitting outside in the shade for a week straight vs outside in sun doing physical activity 12hrs per day?
trying to illustrate the concept here that a low intensity light does not need a large pot. and in this particular case, given what appears to be minimal growing experience, using a large pot with this low wattage light will likely contribute to more issues than solve or eliminate. perhaps, you could be the exception.
if you can get closer to the LED range above i highly recommend it, if not we'll go to plan B: plant training. its all good my guy, happy growin
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Sberarducci
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Love this info!! Thank you so much ! I was thinking this light ? what do you thinkbudget is understandable, not knocking what you're doing, just giving objective opinion based on experience.
there is a couple ways to go on this, grab another budget light or work with what you have. with either option there is different things that can be done to get the best out of the situation.
one plant typically uses a 2x2 area or 4 sq ft. your 26w light, provides for 3.5w per sq ft, but the distance it needs to be to cover this area probably doesnt leave much ppf. the spec sheet for it says 450ppf at 12", but not sure about the footprint size. this is ok for seedlings or clones, but not rooted plants if we're looking for robust growth.
with LED typically we have 25-50w per sq ft, with the upper end being ideal. personally i run 40w per sq ft and run 3g pots with co2
since the wattage is so low in those lights, your plants will not be working hard enough to dry out a 5g or 10g pot in any reasonable amount of time. for example, would you drink more or less water sitting outside in the shade for a week straight vs outside in sun doing physical activity 12hrs per day?
trying to illustrate the concept here that a low intensity light does not need a large pot. and in this particular case, given what appears to be minimal growing experience, using a large pot with this low wattage light will likely contribute to more issues than solve or eliminate. perhaps, you could be the exception.
if you can get closer to the LED range above i highly recommend it, if not we'll go to plan B: plant training. its all good my guy, happy growin
GHodec TS 1000 LED Grow Light,5000K Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp for Indoor Plants Hydroponic Seedling Veg and Flower,Diodes Dimmable & 3 x 3FT Coverage https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094DBHDXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_4E3NHFZE2KV6TNBTFQCP?psc=1
Sberarducci
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So do you think the distance I have it now is fine ? Thank you for this !!!
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Sberarducci
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What do you mean by stalling from being bound & repotting ?
Repotting takes a few days maybe even a week to recover growth will slow during this time with an already short window, its also a stressful event for the plant, the more you can leave it alone the better with this light cycle.
leaving it in that container too long can lead to being rootbound based on advice of ''surprised how much root that little pot holds when you repot ''
at that point if you didnt stress flower it will be getting ready too and you would have just fooled around with the roots of a plant getting set to flower....thats stress. Best case scenario yield takes a hit worst case scenario hermie. With veg time sure its ok, 12 12 from seed, I just dont know.
and no your 1 plant you repotting in a 12/12 cycle will not cover 4sq like said above either lights fine.
But Ill just pull up a seat at this point lol
Sberarducci
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Honestly .. I’m a little all over the place with your post sorry lol the light I posted with the Amazon link has the watts you’re talking about