sphagnum moss experienced growers?

Sberarducci

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Fertilize when they need or ask, it will be a few weeks after repotting but if you report to a 6" pot then a 9/10" they should not need fertilizer till they have started flowering.

That's how I do it in soil, feeds them quite well and as you see a small pot goes a long way fertilizer is not needed to start with. In effect your next repot will feed them for a couple more weeks.

You are in the veg stage already, they will grow more branches and in flower those branches will hold lots of buds.
How can I tell if it need it tho ? Will the leaves drop? Will it turn yellow ? Like how would I know ? Lol but yess soil does a lot with the fertilizer feeding it a lot.
Someone I spoke to in here said it can’t go in a pot no bigger then a 3 gallon due to the light I got.
 

Gregshed

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Rather than know what it looks like understand that if you have been in a pot a while and it rooted out all the soil it will need and ask for it then.

There is no one tell, nitrogen (or everything with nitrogen) will tend to yellow the leaves from the bottom up but it's a whole leaf yellowing of banana coulour yellow. Deficiency can be down to the environment and overwatering which we solve those issues first not add what it's lacking.

That's where soil is easier, you know when the soil is starting to get low so fertilize before that point. Your next repot will supply them everything, no need to worry.

Your other houseplants might need a feed if they haven't had fresh soil for a while.
 

Gregshed

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I work in inches for pot size, 3 gallon sounds big, for now they are in 4" pots and you don't want to go into a much bigger pot as it complicates watering and other things like fertilizer.

Mj growers complicated everything, this way you learn the basics and follow the recommended way most nurseries and non mj growers use which has always worked amazingly well.
 

Sberarducci

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Yeah I get what you mean. My Monstera did that the other day the root popped out.
So basically I’ll probably end up fertilizing once or not at all.

& okay so it’s in a 3 inch now. You think a 6 or an 8 inch I would do next ?
 

Gregshed

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To repot simply fill the next pot half way, spread your fingers around the stem and turn the pot over till it falls into your hands. There should be enough roots it comes out in a round pot soil shape. You will need to tap or pop it out. Then just place on soil in New pot and fill it to the top. Water and it's done. Real easy and good fun.

Those roots your growing should hold the soil together, it's a little too early if they aren't. It can probably still go longer yet just talking about it so you can look around see how it's done.
 

Sberarducci

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To repot simply fill the next pot half way, spread your fingers around the stem and turn the pot over till it falls into your hands. There should be enough roots it comes out in a round pot soil shape. You will need to tap or pop it out. Then just place on soil in New pot and fill it to the top. Water and it's done. Real easy and good fun.

Those roots your growing should hold the soil together, it's a little too early if they aren't. It can probably still go longer yet just talking about it so you can look around see how it's done.
yeah I would give it at least 2 more weeks till it fills the pot up with roots ! Then I’ll put it in a 6 inch the. The next one will probably be a 10inch !
 

Gregshed

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To be honest if it perks up after the next watering you should be about right for a repot which will be over a week easily so about right
 

Sberarducci

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To be honest if it perks up after the next watering you should be about right for a repot which will be over a week easily so about right
I found this chart that is actually good for light distance !

Also found this light calculator that tells me all the details of my light! Pretty cool !
Here’s the link for anyone that wants to know

 

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Gregshed

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I feel you have learnt everything, overwatering is terrible, if it wasnt for that you would have so much more growth.

I'd be inclined to give it a half strength fertilizer next watering.

But overall you see how easy soil is, use the regular soul not seedling.
 

Sberarducci

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I feel you have learnt everything, overwatering is terrible, if it wasnt for that you would have so much more growth.

I'd be inclined to give it a half strength fertilizer next watering.

But overall you see how easy soil is, use the regular soul not seedling.
Yes I am still learning everyday ! New things at that lol

give it half strength fertilizer in that pot ? Not when I repot ?
Oh okay ! So you think the Coast of Maine soil is fine ?
 

Gregshed

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If your repotting no fertilizer but if just watering a half strength might help it rebound.

Soil is soil to me, most are very similar. People rave on about CoM soil, organic, amended and good for mj so yes it should be good for the rest of veg and flower.

You have everything now just practice. One more word of advice, as long as the strain is a strong one you don't need to spend much on seeds to get a great crop. Some seeds are cheap but as good as the expensive ones.
 

Sberarducci

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If your repotting no fertilizer but if just watering a half strength might help it rebound.

Soil is soil to me, most are very similar. People rave on about CoM soil, organic, amended and good for mj so yes it should be good for the rest of veg and flower.

You have everything now just practice. One more word of advice, as long as the strain is a strong one you don't need to spend much on seeds to get a great crop. Some seeds are cheap but as good as the expensive ones.
Oh okay I get what you mean. Yeah soil is whatever to me too. I mean I could just use the same soil I’ve been using, but we’ll see.
 

Gregshed

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There's a lot on using a weaker soil for seedlings but I just use one soil the whole grow, seedlings veg and flower. Most seedling soils are finer for better rooting, they still seem the same strength as a normal soil.

I'm with those who can grow a seedling in a strong soil, if it's too much for a seedling it's too much for a bigger plant is my opinion.

Then there's organic soils that feed for ages due to their fertilizer breaking down constantly over time giving plenty. Some call it 'super soil' but many add organic food to their mix to avoid ever fertilizing or keeping it to bare minimum.

Foxfarms, biobizz, black gold and many others have a range for each type. Just work out what you have and you will know how much and long they feed then base fertilizer round that.
 

Sberarducci

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There's a lot on using a weaker soil for seedlings but I just use one soil the whole grow, seedlings veg and flower. Most seedling soils are finer for better rooting, they still seem the same strength as a normal soil.

I'm with those who can grow a seedling in a strong soil, if it's too much for a seedling it's too much for a bigger plant is my opinion.

Then there's organic soils that feed for ages due to their fertilizer breaking down constantly over time giving plenty. Some call it 'super soil' but many add organic food to their mix to avoid ever fertilizing or keeping it to bare minimum.

Foxfarms, biobizz, black gold and many others have a range for each type. Just work out what you have and you will know how much and long they feed then base fertilizer round that.
So I got this soil the other day, which feeds for 6 months, so basically it would need more then what soil is feeding it ?
 

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Gregshed

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Avoid miracle grow and time release soils. They use balls of fertilizer which steadily release based on temperature and waterings. It's always been known it doesn't suit our style of growing very well.

Some use it with good results but mine feed for a month then need feeding, much easier. You can buy time release fertilizer as prills but it's not popular for us. Just avoid it for now, coast of Maine soil looked better.
 

Sberarducci

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Avoid miracle grow and time release soils. They use balls of fertilizer which steadily release based on temperature and waterings. It's always been known it doesn't suit our style of growing very well.

Some use it with good results but mine feed for a month then need feeding, much easier. You can buy time release fertilizer as prills but it's not popular for us. Just avoid it for now, coast of Maine soil looked better.
Okay I’ll stick by the coast of Maine.
 
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