Spidermites

phil k said:

I'm telling you your not going to kill them with neem.. and your going to make a fucking mess from neem oil dripping and spraying everywhere it gets stick and nasty on the walls and shit...

where are you located in the states?

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Cali420hydro said:

I live in Cali,& I'm growing indoor.can I pick up some Avid @ my Hydro shop?&the Neem isn't to bad I wipe my byckets down after u have to &

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bigsteve said:

"Omg this is the worst information I've seen to date on r.I.u."

Rory, I spent 15 years at UCLA as an animal tech. in the research labs. Sevin dust is so benign that it was vet-approved for direct bedding of rodents. Means the product is so tame that it was approved for direct use on research mice. Certain transgenic mice are valued at close to six figures because of all the labor they represent and nothing got OK'd for them unless we were positive of it's possible dangers. I have used it for 10 years on pot plants with nary a problem. I admit it is a good idea to use a spray bottle to wetten the leaves of any plant treated with an insecticide.

BigSteve.

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phil k said:

i mean most people aren't going to be able to fill their rooms with C02 anyway very little amount of growers are running setups sealed enough to hold high c02 levels. no do they have the c02 equipment to do it. id rather treat my veg properly with a light avid and eradicate everything proplery and go on with my day instead of worrying if i pumped enough c02 to kill everything into my room or if it was a waste... 20$ worth of avid will last a grower years.

and i know what you wanna say! why are you chemically treating!! but when its done properly and not used in flower or close to flower start theres no issues.

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phil k said:

i have had people here in michigan that have ran the c02 thing.. not sure where they got the info on how to do it.. but they fairly knowledgeable growers... all said they still had them and it only killed parents and it didn't even kill all them the first treatment only some.... not like there was hundreds of people i know that tried it.. there was two separate instances people mentioned it to me ... but it doesnt really make much sense unless the c02 levels are elevated for days on end.. because the mites can really be hiding in may places they aren't all always on the leaves 24/7

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rory420420 said:

I was n the doctorate program of horticultural studies at 11yrs old at va tech..so what's your point?
Its a bad idea.period.

It wasn't an issue of whether someone has co2 to run,no? Stay on point..its about the SAFEST method..co2 wins this.
Its your garden,do whatever you want.

Its a 3 week(at least) process..you keep co2 levels at 1500ppm anyhow..days on end IS the point regardless of infestation.
No I've never used this method as I'm a good enough gardener that I don't have pests,disease..but others do,and have followed my advice,and won the war..safely,without sprays,pesticide ect..organic or not,lab tested safe or not,a natural solution is the best.
Good luck o.p.!

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phil k said:

LOL RORY!!! you've never used what you recommend? thats on the seven dust level.. and I'm saying people try it and they don't have success.. 1500ppm is no where near enough to kill all bugs. nor enough to kill eggs.. that's 0.15% c02 .. natural air carries .04% or 400ppm c02... you'd have be be at 40% c02 or higher i can't see 1500ppm killing them.. even kept stable for 3 weeks.. but to each his own... as long as you properly use a chemical to eradicate them your completing the action much easier and cheaper as well as with a higher certainty IMOP..

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70sdiver said:

If your hydro shop don't have avid you can get it one ebay.Do not spray flowering plants you dont want to smoke that shit.I use it to innoculate clones.It flat out kills their ass!!

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phil k said:

its not natural... its a pesticide specifically designed for mites and mite eggs. you only use 4-6 drips from a eye dropper in a spray bottle and spray the plants .. you do it once a week for two weeks sometimes 3 it will eradicate them.

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rory420420 said:

No I've never used,but instructed,and observed,and recorded facts..you know,the scientific method...
Yes the math.it's great,and numerically puts into picture my previous text..thanks for repeating.
Yes its 1500ppm..you must use ten times that..no animal species on earth can survive that concentration level..do it every 3 days for 3 weeks 1 hr a day..success.
Have YOU ever used what I recommend? No? So,even shorter a pedestal now..
I love riu..it turns every man into a premenstrual teen eventually..arguing points for their own sake instead of knowledges...
At least you haven't resorted to calling names like others,and for that,I commend you!!
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phil k said:

no shit why would i attack you.. i mean i don't know about the c02 killing machine.. like i said just know of two guys that tried it with no success.. and the scientific methods fine.. if your actually going through to see the results yourself... theres guys here that don't ph their chemicals...and preach not doing it... but i never see them post any beautiful healthy plant pics... its just to me your hearing and reading something not using the method itself... and i would also contest the method your suggesting would really very on the amount of mites and how your rooms designed.

but id like to see it work at the levels your saying to me its just not making sense... but rasing the levels to extremes would .. but i mean extremes. but for this guys situation i think avids best...

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phil k said:

i mean most people aren't going to be able to fill their rooms with C02 anyway very little amount of growers are running setups sealed enough to hold high c02 levels. no do they have the c02 equipment to do it. id rather treat my veg properly with a light avid and eradicate everything proplery and go on with my day instead of worrying if i pumped enough c02 to kill everything into my room or if it was a waste... 20$ worth of avid will last a grower years.

and i know what you wanna say! why are you chemically treating!! but when its done properly and not used in flower or close to flower start theres no issues.

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70sdiver said:

If your hydro shop don't have avid you can get it one ebay.Do not spray flowering plants you dont want to smoke that shit.I use it to innoculate clones.It flat out kills their ass!!

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70sdiver said:

You need to use avid in the veg stage only. If your in flower you'll have to look at organic ways to kill the mites ,you won't kill them all but can control them .look up rosemary oil for mite control in flower.on your next grow clean everything in the room and use avid on your young plants after they have 4 sets of leaves and you won't have a mite problem.

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