Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner
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Matt Rize
Hashmaster
closed units come first if you are a professional hashmaster.
420mon
Well-Known Member
I don't know Mon, Think like a PIMP and PIMP them for a day or two, then Mon can gets a closed unit every other day AND the whores can make the HASH the MATT RIZE WAY and you still keep yer PIMP HAND STRONG plus Mon would have lots more hash & ass.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Well, back to hash and past the pimpin'... my pimp hand is sore.
This came from my guru. If you need a translation let me know.
"The difference between shatter and budder is retaining an amorphous solid and not allowing wax crystallization to entrap gas and moisture. This achieved with thin films of resin and mild heat to polymerize the resin before the waxes can crystallize. This amorphous substrate entraps the native terpenes where as in budder they are more entrapped in the micro-crystalline wax matrix.So the actual difference in the two is not any inherent quantitative measure but rather a qualitative. In vaping the amorphous solid naturally occurring terpenes remain dehydrated by and large and retain expectorating properties. In Budders they are exposed to air and moisture altering their expectorant abilities. The waxes are also whipped to entrain air and crystallize them to create the texture , this changes drastically the way they vaporize and the net product of same are also far more oxidized than when entrapped in a homogenous and amorphous solid.
The net result is that budder and shatter are both raw gums and to eliminate the semi-toxic and irritating waxes is by making and using absolutes( actually Pure gum resin). If one is really after terpene flavors then the CWE of pure trichomes is the best delivery of natural cannabis terpenes. For sustained and exclusive extract use pure gum resin is preferred despite the low flavor and thus low terpene profile" Guru Jim.
This came from my guru. If you need a translation let me know.
"The difference between shatter and budder is retaining an amorphous solid and not allowing wax crystallization to entrap gas and moisture. This achieved with thin films of resin and mild heat to polymerize the resin before the waxes can crystallize. This amorphous substrate entraps the native terpenes where as in budder they are more entrapped in the micro-crystalline wax matrix.So the actual difference in the two is not any inherent quantitative measure but rather a qualitative. In vaping the amorphous solid naturally occurring terpenes remain dehydrated by and large and retain expectorating properties. In Budders they are exposed to air and moisture altering their expectorant abilities. The waxes are also whipped to entrain air and crystallize them to create the texture , this changes drastically the way they vaporize and the net product of same are also far more oxidized than when entrapped in a homogenous and amorphous solid.
The net result is that budder and shatter are both raw gums and to eliminate the semi-toxic and irritating waxes is by making and using absolutes( actually Pure gum resin). If one is really after terpene flavors then the CWE of pure trichomes is the best delivery of natural cannabis terpenes. For sustained and exclusive extract use pure gum resin is preferred despite the low flavor and thus low terpene profile" Guru Jim.
Dan Kone
Well-Known Member
Pretty much any subtitles put to that clip always ends up funny for some reason.
420mon
Well-Known Member
Sorry Mon but Mon don't understand any of that but yeah here is Mon sour d hash from 7 bubble bag and drill for 1 min after sitting for 20 mins wet in ice then collect in last 3 bubble bag 25 micron, 45 micron, 73 micron, still drying now, I wonder is 90 micron trash or do I keep that too?
budlover13
King Tut
Am I understanding correctly that that is saying that shatter is better than wax at making one cough *productively*? That could be VERY helpful for cigarette smokers such as myself.
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oakley1984
Well-Known Member
so out of curiosity i spent some money on a few items to try vac purging bho.
made out of purple white lightning.
no flash
flash
final thoughts;
still tastes like bho, potency still sucks compared to iso...
not sure what everyones arguing about, get a better solvent.
made out of purple white lightning.
no flash
flash
final thoughts;
still tastes like bho, potency still sucks compared to iso...
not sure what everyones arguing about, get a better solvent.
ENDLSCYCLE
Well-Known Member
FYI......the baking section at your local grocery store carries jumbo parchment cupcake cups....atleast mine does.
oakley1984
Well-Known Member
fyi, paper vs glass = glass wins.
no interest in doing the parchment paper thing
thanks tho.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Exactly. Budder/whip tends to build up in your lungs compared to shatter/sap. And if you dab all the time a dewaxed absolute is really what you need long term.
oakley1984
Well-Known Member
seems i am the only person in this thread, who can post pics of 1/2lb of translucent honey oil at a time....
fantasy world that glass is cleaner than parchment paper? you must be high.
as for butane making a lower potency product than iso
well thats pretty obvious as to why and if you cant figure it out
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dankshizzle
Glassblowing Moderator
What does good iso look like? All I ever seen is black and I've never made it.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Looks exactly like good BHO. Amber sap...
oakley1984
Well-Known Member
~15g in that dish... from the last time i made a COMMERCIAL batch. (the batch came out to 235g...)
higher quality is achievable in smaller quantities.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
micro-crafting ftw. When it comes to thin film vac purging, small batches are the only way to do it effectively.