Stay away from ILGM!!!!!!!

CarolinaPothead

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Man this last ILGM grow is a display of what unstable genetics looks like. The 2 big ones both sprouted same day. The back 1 sprouted 3.5 weeks later. My wife thinks someone (me) mixed strains. She doesn't understand how phenotypes work but shes dead on in that all 3 look totally different. The left one smells like lemon pinesol. Its def the best ilgm plant ive had. Very frosty and an easy grow. It looks like the 50/50 hybrid its supposed to be. The right one is spindly, SLOW growing and 0 smell. It looks like a full sativa and i dont expect alot from it honestly. Ive almost tossed it several times. Waste of space. The back gal is doing very well so far. It has the most indica look to it of the 3. I just pulled the huge fat fan leaves off a couple days ago. It has some smell already, earthy, spicy. Ive got hopes for it. Even though 2 outta 3 look to be doing well i cant stand the inconsistencies. Glad its the last run. Mephisto has several f5/f6 strains. 3 bears OG and Mango Smile are looking good. They are currently out of Creme de la Chem. I feel i will get the consistency i desire from them. Should be like 3-4 weeks to go on the one. Calyxs still got some swelling to do. Good grows to you all!
 

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Slaveboy

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CarolinaPothead said:
Man this last ILGM grow is a display of what unstable genetics looks like. The 2 big ones both sprouted same day. The back 1 sprouted 3.5 weeks later. My wife thinks someone (me) mixed strains. She doesn't understand how phenotypes work but shes dead on in that all 3 look totally different. The left one smells like lemon pinesol. Its def the best ilgm plant ive had. Very frosty and an easy grow. It looks like the 50/50 hybrid its supposed to be. The right one is spindly, SLOW growing and 0 smell. It looks like a full sativa and i dont expect alot from it honestly. Ive almost tossed it several times. Waste of space. The back gal is doing very well so far. It has the most indica look to it of the 3. I just pulled the huge fat fan leaves off a couple days ago. It has some smell already, earthy, spicy. Ive got hopes for it. Even though 2 outta 3 look to be doing well i cant stand the inconsistencies. Glad its the last run. Mephisto has several f5/f6 strains. 3 bears OG and Mango Smile are looking good. They are currently out of Creme de la Chem. I feel i will get the consistency i desire from them. Should be like 3-4 weeks to go on the one. Calyxs still got some swelling to do. Good grows to you all!
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ILGM is refunding my money for my seeds, plus 5 free seeds, which I don't want the seeds. I'm yet to give them my bank information, because I got hacked last week. Well, I'm making the best of everything. Cooking it all. My edibles are not super strong, but keeps me in good spirits. Made me not want to smoke, which is good.
 
CarolinaPothead

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Slaveboy said:
ILGM is refunding my money for my seeds, plus 5 free seeds, which I don't want the seeds. I'm yet to give them my bank information, because I got hacked last week. Well, I'm making the best of everything. Cooking it all. My edibles are not super strong, but keeps me in good spirits. Made me not want to smoke, which is good.
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Glad to hear you are getting a refund. I guess at least customer service still works. Hate you didnt get any worth smoking. I am still torn between pulling my sketchy plant and giving the light space to the last plant and finishing it just to see what it does. Ive brewed up a compost tea and just fed her it. Ugliest plant ever. lol. That one has a great smell and is super frosty. Its a shame they all werent like it. Merry Christmas! Hey , btw. Take those 5 beans. After this grow i see that its possible to get a decent pheno even from ILGM. At least with photos you can clone if you get a good one.
 
Slaveboy

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CarolinaPothead said:
Glad to hear you are getting a refund. I guess at least customer service still works. Hate you didnt get any worth smoking. I am still torn between pulling my sketchy plant and giving the light space to the last plant and finishing it just to see what it does. Ive brewed up a compost tea and just fed her it. Ugliest plant ever. lol. That one has a great smell and is super frosty. Its a shame they all werent like it. Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas
 
CarolinaPothead

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The big nicer plant gave me 125 ish grams dried and jarred up.(i smoked a couple buds)I finally got a decent pheno from ILGM. Hell, had to happen sometime eh? The shit has alot of terps. About 15-20g of larf. Smokes great and very good buzz. NOT fire, but good. The next one smells even stronger and really fruity. Started the mephisto gear. Its going ok so far.
 
Slaveboy

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Cool, probably not growing this year. I still have jars full of the crop. I bought the Levo infusion machine. It's really nice. Once I started eating it, my craving to smoke went away, especially that stuff. Someone smoked some good stuff with me. 2 puffs, I wanted no more. Weird how that happened. I'm still not smoking and stopped eating a couple of weeks ago. I have become a lobbyist for marijuana legislation. Wrote a proposal to lower penalties for large amount, because people are still going to prison for it. I have to be on point now, and those edibles melted my brain lol. Good to hear from you Carolina!
 
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Upon the discovery of your website I thought I had finally found just who I was looking for!! A great selection and price. I m not about to bicker with you over your seeds but I can tell you that the seeds you sent me are complete garbage. I soaked them and soaked them. I put them in propagation and still nothing!! Out of 20 seeds I have 11 that will not pop. I am incredibly disappointed and will be passing my experience along. I suggest you take a look at your suppliers because less than 50% is unacceptable.
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Netherlands areas LOL
 
CarolinaPothead

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Slaveboy said:
Cool, probably not growing this year. I still have jars full of the crop. I bought the Levo infusion machine. It's really nice. Once I started eating it, my craving to smoke went away, especially that stuff. Someone smoked some good stuff with me. 2 puffs, I wanted no more. Weird how that happened. I'm still not smoking and stopped eating a couple of weeks ago. I have become a lobbyist for marijuana legislation. Wrote a proposal to lower penalties for large amount, because people are still going to prison for it. I have to be on point now, and those edibles melted my brain lol. Good to hear from you Carolina!
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Glad youre doing well. That infusion machine has gotta be nice. Id like to have one, but alas i need a new light first. Im really glad youre actively lobbying for legalization. We could squash the cartels with national legalization. I hear ya on the edibles. They melt my brain too. lol. I end up asleep everytime. It's good to be almost done with ILGM. 2 plants to go. About 3 more weeks on the one which is a month younger. The bigger one is same age as the 1 i harvested 2 weeks ago and it still has mostly white hairs at 16 weeks. WTF? So 2 outta 20 worth a shit. LoL. I started a Mephisto 3 BOG and a Fast Buds GSC auto. Hopefully they are good as advertised. Look at this little GG expressing indica. Crazy. Hope you are well, take care!
 

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They stuffed me. Gave my bank information and they failed to do it. Now I'm looking for legit seeds for the new season. Hopefully some legit landrace strains.
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I think I've found a place that gives really good service and their seeds shouldbe good. I bought hemp seeds from Cheyenne Mountian Seed Co. from a guy named Reed (I think) He also sells MJ seeds from Rootseller Seeds. The phone number is the same for both: (719)217-0207.

BEST SERVICE I,ve ever had from a seed bank. I called and the line was busy so I just hung up with no message. About 1/2 hour later he returned the call. Very helpful. He recommended the best seeds for me and I bought a mix pack. There are 2 extra seeds in each pack. They raise their own seeds.

If you need help finding the best seed for youself you might check him out.
 
Slaveboy

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DancesWithWeeds said:
I think I've found a place that gives really good service and their seeds shouldbe good. I bought hemp seeds from Cheyenne Mountian Seed Co. from a guy named Reed (I think) He also sells MJ seeds from Rootseller Seeds. The phone number is the same for both: (719)217-0207.

BEST SERVICE I,ve ever had from a seed bank. I called and the line was busy so I just hung up with no message. About 1/2 hour later he returned the call. Very helpful. He recommended the best seeds for me and I bought a mix pack. There are 2 extra seeds in each pack. They raise their own seeds.

If you need help finding the best seed for youself you might check him out.
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I'm going to try. Thanks brother
 
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Tward said:
Upon the discovery of your website I thought I had finally found just who I was looking for!! A great selection and price. I m not about to bicker with you over your seeds but I can tell you that the seeds you sent me are complete garbage. I soaked them and soaked them. I put them in propagation and still nothing!! Out of 20 seeds I have 11 that will not pop. I am incredibly disappointed and will be passing my experience along. I suggest you take a look at your suppliers because less than 50% is unacceptable.
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I've grown for 30 years and recently tried ilgm. None of the seeds are worth a damn. Stall at 4 to 6 weeks! Nothing but pH problems waiting to happen. I battled customer service for 6 months and got nothing but a runaround! White widow autos yielded half ounce per plant! I can get 4 oz or better from bagseeds. Not a selection of full blooded strains, everything is crossbred. Seeds germinated fine. Waste of time and money,in my opinion. I wouldn't mind finding a good quality seed source, but ilgm definitely isn't it.
 
Slaveboy

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oltimer420 said:
I've grown for 30 years and recently tried ilgm. None of the seeds are worth a damn. Stall at 4 to 6 weeks! Nothing but pH problems waiting to happen. I battled customer service for 6 months and got nothing but a runaround! White widow autos yielded half ounce per plant! I can get 4 oz or better from bagseeds. Not a selection of full blooded strains, everything is crossbred. Seeds germinated fine. Waste of time and money,in my opinion. I wouldn't mind finding a good quality seed source, but ilgm definitely isn't it.
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Amen brother!
 
CarolinaPothead

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Slaveboy said:
They stuffed me. Gave my bank information and they failed to do it. Now I'm looking for legit seeds for the new season. Hopefully some legit landrace strains.
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Thats some B S. for sure. I dont understand why they are being such dicks. Fuck em. Ive moved on as well. I harvested the Iast one of theirs monday. Alot of cannabutter from that one. Im all in mephisto rt now.
 
CarolinaPothead

CarolinaPothead

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oltimer420 said:
I've grown for 30 years and recently tried ilgm. None of the seeds are worth a damn. Stall at 4 to 6 weeks! Nothing but pH problems waiting to happen. I battled customer service for 6 months and got nothing but a runaround! White widow autos yielded half ounce per plant! I can get 4 oz or better from bagseeds. Not a selection of full blooded strains, everything is crossbred. Seeds germinated fine. Waste of time and money,in my opinion. I wouldn't mind finding a good quality seed source, but ilgm definitely isn't it.
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North Atlantic Seed Company. They have plenty of good breeders for any grower. Far be it from me to cover for Bergman, but how are you growing? I have grown for 30+ years off and on too but growing autoflowers and using LED lights for 2. It threw me for a loop. I aint crazy about their gear either but the ph problems ive fixed. The ILGM beans do seem alot less tolerant of ph issues than I figured but all i grew before was super stable landraces. Im currently running f6 autos and so far no issues but i almost never have issues until halfway through flower. I am not gonna venture advice other than NASC, but there are some pretty good growers around here(some have emojied your post) that helped me through my problems. Try you some new beans and if you still have any issues reach out. You growing inside or out? Autos or photos? Whats your grow medium, strain(s), kind of light, nutes , microbes etc. . I fixed my ph issues with mychorrizae. Ive only had 2 ILGM beans fail to germinate. My gripe with them is too much pheno diversity. Hey good luck !
 
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CarolinaPothead said:
North Atlantic Seed Company. They have plenty of good breeders for any grower. Far be it from me to cover for Bergman, but how are you growing? I have grown for 30+ years off and on too but growing autoflowers and using LED lights for 2. It threw me for a loop. I aint crazy about their gear either but the ph problems ive fixed. The ILGM beans do seem alot less tolerant of ph issues than I figured but all i grew before was super stable landraces. Im currently running f6 autos and so far no issues but i almost never have issues until halfway through flower. I am not gonna venture advice other than NASC, but there are some pretty good growers around here(some have emojied your post) that helped me through my problems. Try you some new beans and if you still have any issues reach out. You growing inside or out? Autos or photos? Whats your grow medium, strain(s), kind of light, nutes , microbes etc. . I fixed my ph issues with mychorrizae. Ive only had 2 ILGM beans fail to germinate. My gripe with them is too much pheno diversity. Hey good luck !
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NASC is good, but we've been buying direct from breeders instead. We got a pack of greenhouse white widow and half didn't pop. That's the only time it's ever happened.
 
CarolinaPothead

CarolinaPothead

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DancesWithWeeds said:
I think I've found a place that gives really good service and their seeds shouldbe good. I bought hemp seeds from Cheyenne Mountian Seed Co. from a guy named Reed (I think) He also sells MJ seeds from Rootseller Seeds. The phone number is the same for both: (719)217-0207.

BEST SERVICE I,ve ever had from a seed bank. I called and the line was busy so I just hung up with no message. About 1/2 hour later he returned the call. Very helpful. He recommended the best seeds for me and I bought a mix pack. There are 2 extra seeds in each pack. They raise their own seeds.

If you need help finding the best seed for youself you might check him out.
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Hey I like the sound of that too. I checked their page out. Their prices are reasonable! The Chem DxGG4 looks DANK. Terpene profile: Disgusting burnt rubber and peanut butter? Sounds like fire. Always glad to hear of a new source. Let us know how things go with their gear. I am wanting to try alot of different strains and breeders.
 
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CarolinaPothead

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Nope_49595933949 said:
NASC is good, but we've been buying direct from breeders instead. We got a pack of greenhouse white widow and half didn't pop. That's the only time it's ever happened.
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Ive only ordered from them once. One of my 2 freebies didnt pop but my mephistos did. Will they replace any bad beans or are we fkd? I didnt even try because it was just 1 bean and occasionally beans just dont pop. A half pack id be pissed. Was the greenhouse gear that popped good? They have some interesting strains and decent prices.
 
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