nflguy
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ILGM does credit cards with 5 days in the mailbox and NASC is great too with just about the same shipping speed
Stay away from ILGM!!!!!!!
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HydroKid239
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Enlighten me
resinhead
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ILGM strain names are not the actual strains he reports them to be. Not saying they’re bad, but you bought misinformation and are perpetually spreading misinformation by calling that plant wedding cake.Enlighten me
Actual Wedding Cake is an elite clone that is a phenotype of TK x Animal Mints.
CarolinaPothead
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Whatever somebody wants to call it that was still a very nice looking plant you got there dude. Most of these breeders sell their own ,"recreations" of popular strains. If you are calling it ILGM wedding cake then im fine with that. My Mephisto 3BOG's may not be the original ,"OG Kush" but im quite happy with their gear. Id be quite happy to smoke some of your weed too. I dont think too many people on this forum are gonna accuse you of spreading misinformation by stating the name that the company called it. Hey looks like you did a good job. Cheers.Enlighten me
HydroKid239
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I get that this isn’t the clone only version. It’s like buying the “Our rendition” version of it. That’s with all ILGM seeds. I’m cool with that. Seedsman has theirs, crop king as well as a million others by now.
That smoke was pretty good, but wasn’t as good as others I had going, so it didn’t stick around. She was pretty though.
CarolinaPothead
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Right! I dont think alot of us on here are in a position to get the ,"rare clone" version of well, anything lol. Especially the people on a ilgm gripe page. If you say," im growing company x northern lights #5" i doubt many are going to presume you are growing an original NL#5 clone. Buying the remake verson in bean form is as close as most of us can get. Im also fine with that.
resinhead
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Check out places like Hembra genetics , terpy seeds, Great Lakes genetics, seeds here now.
These are seed banks supplied by cannabis breeders.
HydroKid239
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I’ve gone way overboard when it comes to picking up genetics. I like the breeder direct approach the most. It will be a while if I ever go genetics shopping again.
I do agree with A lot of the backlash shown here in this thread. Sometimes customer sec drops the ball. It’s definitely a noobs paradise when it comes to starting out.
CarolinaPothead
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There's just so many bean sellers out there that its all a miasma of hucksters and swindlers with a few great breeders mixed in for good measure when/if you can sort them out. Alot of places that i would like to get direct from the source wont ship to where im at or are such a pain to get in on their seed drops. Its so easy for people to fall victim to shady companies. They google ,"best seedbank" and invariably it spits out ILGM. I dont know how much they pay to get that recommendation but it must be significant. It took me 2 years to get around to ordering from NASC and getting some decent genetics after having so many mediocre ILGM beans. I been wanting some Humboldt CSI Christmas '79 beans but he wont ship to my area at least not yet. So right now im content running through Mephistos gear. The Dutch Passion's i have right now are looking really nice too. Some here have talked about throwing out their ILGM beans but i paid for 'em so im gonna grow em. I can just make bubble hash and edibles out of the lesser phenos. I'll smoke any good ones. I have had a few really good ILGM GG but since they were autos it was unrepeatable and thus undesirable. The Mephistos are small plants but the 2-3 zips per plant i got have been fire. I will get around to these other breeders eventually. With legality now im hopeful of local breeders appearing eventually.
MtRainDog
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anyone's lineup that starts with, "Gorilla Glue, Cookies, Zkittlez" should be a red flag. Or maybe a yellow flag. Doesn't meant the beans are bad, but these places make a killing off marketing around clones that they may or may not be using in their seed making. Guys/gals like us know better, but the average joe who's looking to grow his first legal 4 doesn't, and it comes off somewhat disingenuous/shady/huckster-ish.
My first and latest experience with ILGM seeds was terrible, customer support was good, Logan was knowledgeable and seemed like a good guy, he replaced my entire order! I just hope the replacement seeds aren't as bad as my original order! They sent bad seeds and the wrong seeds.
I ordered the purple mix and opted for the 30 pack feminized seed pack, out of the 30 only 10 seeds popped and two died. I ended up with 2 purple haze, 2 purple kush and 4 granddaddy. IMO they are of the weakest genetics. One GDP is dwarfed and one PPHz is dwarfed. The one GDP is growing weird with one long shoot the other side is undeveloped. The one PPHz is growing 3 shoots instead of the normal two. Now after about six weeks of growth I find them all showing big white hairs with one budding. They sent me auto's when I ordered photoperiod feminized.
My experience with customer support was good but the seeds were not so good. If I shop at this store again will depend on how good my replacement seeds are and if they are the seeds I ordered.
I ordered the purple mix and opted for the 30 pack feminized seed pack, out of the 30 only 10 seeds popped and two died. I ended up with 2 purple haze, 2 purple kush and 4 granddaddy. IMO they are of the weakest genetics. One GDP is dwarfed and one PPHz is dwarfed. The one GDP is growing weird with one long shoot the other side is undeveloped. The one PPHz is growing 3 shoots instead of the normal two. Now after about six weeks of growth I find them all showing big white hairs with one budding. They sent me auto's when I ordered photoperiod feminized.
My experience with customer support was good but the seeds were not so good. If I shop at this store again will depend on how good my replacement seeds are and if they are the seeds I ordered.
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MtRainDog
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Purples like that are weaksauce imo. GDP needs to be hunted, there’s lots of boof to sift through. Purple haze I’d probably go for Ace’s stuff, but honestly I don’t think there’s any purple haze available today that’s worth a damn. Maybe get lucky with some OH or THH and find a nice purple pheno, but talk about having to hunt…
Purple kush? JBC has at least one Twin Flame in stock (Goji OG f2 purple cut x wookie) that would destroy anything ilgm is offering.
CarolinaPothead
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Anymore ive learned to just make small orders until i see how things turn out. It sucks to spend $100's just to not be satisfied for whatever reason. ILGM,Crop King, MSNL etc. count on most of their customers being noobs. I fell for it. At least my plants grew, there werent many that i would want again but i got plants, although some were pitiful ugly and totally inconsistent. But yeah, even with known quality breeders i wouldnt order a big pack unless i had already run them before. I love the smoke my Mephisto 3 bears produced but im glad i only bought a 3 pk. as they all popped pistils at 2 weeks and stayed small( to be fair they said as much in the strain info). Next time i order their gear im going with a bigger yielder as i only have room for 6-8 planters and id like to fill my space as well as possible. I dont really care what a company wants to call their strains but I do expect them to at least be close to what they are supposed to be. I learned also that i will now always run at least 2-3 different strains at once in case i dont like one i have backup already going. ILGM WWAUTO is garbage. Every plant grew but none tasted or smelled worthy and yields were lackluster at best. Ive grown plenty bagseed plants that had a much better terp profile. I see alot of people on this page saying they spent many 100's on ILGM beans. I would have to make a few runs of somebody's gear before dropping big money on them. Theres just too many breeders/strains for me to put everything in 1 basket anymore. Im happy for now trying out several small packs from different breeders in my orders. Sometimes you hit gold but if you dont youre not outta too much doe and if i like it i can order more.
CarolinaPothead
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Exactly. There is nothing ILGM offers that someone else doesnt do better im sure. They are like the generic brands of soda. Sometimes you get 1 thats still good, but it aint ever like the original. I have been looking for alot of old school strains but 3 iin particular: Skunk #1, Chistmas tree and Northern lights. The CT has become virtually extinct and none of the dispensary Skunk or NL has been anything like the stuff i got back in the 80's and 90's. I remember getting skunk weed every fall that literally smelled like a roadkill skunk and would knock your socks off. And the NL i bought then was always pingpong balls of sweet sweet terp filled goodness. I have heard Humboldt CSI has some old school fire but I wouldnt even bother to try most companies gear as I know its futile. Most breeders have so focused on total thc content that the terps that made these strains legendary have been bred out. Anybody thats ever smoked the real thing can tell that these copies arent even close. People will try to tell you that today's weed is so much stronger and on average thats probably true. But, again, anybody who was around to smoke those and other great old school strains can tell you that that was some damn good weed, dont matter what you compare it to. I think alot of those potency numbers are skewed anyway because the mexican brickweed was factored in and that stuff dried up years ago in most places(thankfully). But im still looking and hoping. Until then im happy running autos. If im not gonna get the terps i want then i might as well get the weed fast. The potency of the good autos is plenty strong for me. I wish i could grow fields of weed and select my own phenos. Any selection would be better than Bergman's mystery breeders' non selective perpetual f1 process. Damnit I told myself that I wouldnt rant again on this page....."But then I got high "
-Fidel Cashflow
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So, I too started with ILGM. Too bad they have cornered the search functions!
Beware of the free seeds they replace with. I got 20 GSC EXTREME free seeds. Ive popped about 10, most are outside as Im not wasting tent space with these plants. So far out of the 10, 3 had huge mutations. They replaced some GG#4, I lost those somewhere, but I did pop one and it grew into a monster. I think their GG#4 is ok, but would call that something else. The other issue I have and I know others do to, is every plant looks the same. I get a little pheno variation, but they all seem kind of extreme bio-mass with often very little frost. Also, as others have said, very few terps. When I dry and cure them, they have some smell, but nothing like what I get from photos. What is amazing is I can buy seeds from absolute rockstar breeders for far less $.
Beware of the free seeds they replace with. I got 20 GSC EXTREME free seeds. Ive popped about 10, most are outside as Im not wasting tent space with these plants. So far out of the 10, 3 had huge mutations. They replaced some GG#4, I lost those somewhere, but I did pop one and it grew into a monster. I think their GG#4 is ok, but would call that something else. The other issue I have and I know others do to, is every plant looks the same. I get a little pheno variation, but they all seem kind of extreme bio-mass with often very little frost. Also, as others have said, very few terps. When I dry and cure them, they have some smell, but nothing like what I get from photos. What is amazing is I can buy seeds from absolute rockstar breeders for far less $.
CarolinaPothead
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The GG4 is the only ILGM strain thats given me some real good weed. I wont go so far as to call it fire but ... damn decent. And averaged 4-5 zips per plant. I got 1(one) WW auto out of 15 that is terpy. The rest smelled/tasted like hay that even a good cure wouldnt fix. I have a few beans left that i been using to fill space and experiment on. Im running Dutch Passion and Mephisto this time that both are doing well. I wont buy ILGM again but ima get my $$ worth outta these grab bag genetics i have left. NONE of mine look the same. Thats been my gripe. But i guess better a few good ones is better than none.
MtRainDog
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Gg4 won the genetic lottery in terms of s1's that stay pretty true to mama.
Fidel Cashflow
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Yeah, no more tent space for ILGM. Not sure how most of their plants have 0 terps.
CarolinaPothead
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I only run the beans i have left when i need a canopy filler. I need to make an order bad. Im seriously considering a photo run. You sir are correct about their terps. Ive only had like 4 out of 16 plants across 2 strains that had decent taste and smell. The rest almost to a 1 had a bland taste and took a long cure just to be smokeable. The good ones were good but with such a tiny chance of a repeat then its not worth a shit. I make edibles, and ive been working on making my own soil so ive been using the ilgm crap for that. I wonder how these crap bean chuckers like Crop King, Growers Choice,ILGM, MSNL and a few others somehow get voted #1 or top 5 in every internet search for ,"best seed bank". Money i guess. I get on here and rant occasionally about pheno selection. Maybe eventually somebody will listen and they wont keep shitting customers with weed that tastes like pre chewed fruit stripe gum. lol. Time for a hit of scissor hash.
IL grow
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i have to admit to that, I bought 10 seeds get 10 seeds free, I did that with the NL & the Durban POISON, they werre trash as well.. only a few grew after that all died, from various growths with no explanation