I’ve had only good luck with NASC also. They are now producing their own in-house seeds, though I haven’t tried them. Everything I’ve received from NASC came in the original breeder packaging, which I think is pretty essential to avoiding BS, at least from what I’ve read.
I've started going with agsc. Todd seems pretty transparent, and he's working Mel Frank's original genetics. I just harvested my first run of his og haze. Haven't smoked any yet, but it looks legit.
From NASC I got Do Si Do. Acapulco Gold. Both from Humboldt seed company and I got Gorilla Cookies from fast buds. They sent me 3 weeding cake for free. Do SI Do, and the 3 weeding cake never germinated and they wouldn’t replace them. Acapulco Gold didn’t yield much at all. I’m not sure how everyone knows about all this shady stuff from ILGM. If their seeds were that bad they wouldn’t stay in business no matter how many good reviews they pay people to write.
ILGM also breeds in house.
You seem like a decently bright person and they got your money? Advertising and marketing
How do they stay in business selling fake/bad seeds? Regardless of marketing, if their seeds suck no one would buy them.
What I’m saying is obviously you did and it seems like most new growers fall for the cannabis seed scam market. Uninformed customers who believe what google tells them
Many noobs start growing everyday. Most won't know the difference genetics makes. I didn't.
Ok you didn’t answer my question. How do they stay in business by scamming people? What proof do you have that they are scamming people?
I think they stay in business from those first time purchasers like me who found their site easily, and found the seeds to be fine. I made 2 orders from them before moving on because of customer service. I didn't have any issues with the seeds other than having to get a replacement that took forever. The plants popped, and grew weed that gets me high. If you're new or don't care very much you probably pick the top Google option.
So is all the grow information on their website wrong too?
Like their grow help section? No that seems pretty correct, at least back when I was using their site for help rather than here. Aside from recommending you pop in paper towels (at the time, they may have stopped suggesting that) it got me through my first grow.
so why would they sell shit seeds but give good grow information? Makes no sense.
The seeds pop and grow healthy plants in my experience, so they are providing the product they're selling. Why do you think they're shit? How many versions of "White Widow" are out there? How many of them are the "real deal?" Probably not many. All seeds are a bit of a gamble.
Exactly. You never know what you’re actually getting when you order seeds. All I’m saying is that people are bashing ILGM when damn near every other seed bank does the exact same things.
Maybe a couple strains but its well known they use white label spanish breeders. I know their stuff is subpar from growing out 40+ beans over 3.5 years. Doesnt matter where the beans are bred if they dont pheno select. Every single plant ive grown from their beans were so different they might as well have been different strains. If you are determined to use them then good luck! Just be prepared for a ton of plant diversity. Its hard to keep an even canopy when 1 GG auto grows 4 feet tall and the 1 next to it topped out at 18 inches. If they did proper pheno selection then this crap wouldn't happen or would be rare. Do as you wish but im done with em. Shit, I keep getting pulled back into this thread when ive been done buying from them for years. At least youre growing something. Again, good luck!
From seed nowadays, none of them are the real deal.
Right, and all we're saying, is that some seed banks don't, and thats the ones you should consider going with, if you want original genetics.