Stealth Cabinets

Thought i would quickly check ph, it had risen in both buckets to nearly 7 so i have adjusted it and hopefully it will be stable now. Ec is fine on both tubs.

BudBaby,
Been Subbed for a while and would like to say great work on your cab!!!!! +rep I just wanted to make a quick comment about your PH. Your nutes have PH buffers in them that lower your waters PH. In the future when you premix your nutes (not in your buckets), add the nutes first then check your PH. By the sounds of it, you probably won't have to add any PH down. Always works for me. You might have to make a slight adjustment 12 to 24 hours after you pour it into your buckets.
Just a thought.
Keep up the good work.
Lapper

Thanks dude and thanks for the good comments. I have another seedling going in shortly, i have poured the water off and added canna start and ill take the ph before i add it to the bucket.

Here are a few update pics, not very good quality im afraid i think ill have ot get a new camera.

I noticed today when i added the canna start it didnt knock the ph down hardly anything, i double checked and my ph pen is calibrated but i thought it a tad strange. I have also noticed if i add ph down 1ml at time it knocks about 0.2 off my ph for the first 3ml but after that even a few drops takes it down loads.

Ive added the third lady to my cab now and ill adjust ph in the morning, when they went in ph was 5.3 and ec 1.0.

I wanted to ask mate when im ready to start the veg nuites what do i do? Do i just top the bucket up with nuit solution or do i have to empty it then do it all from scratch?

I have been thinking about my drying cabinet next, the misses will go mad when i eventualy tell her lmao, i need it to be as small as we can get away with and i need it also to be as cheap as possible as these main cabs have skinted me out proper lol.

I have seen some coolbox types but i have read they dry the buds to quickly, thing is though i dont really want to be forking out on more high quality fans and filters. What are your thoughts mate?

BudBaby said:

I have been thinking about my drying cabinet next, the misses will go mad when i eventualy tell her lmao, i need it to be as small as we can get away with and i need it also to be as cheap as possible as these main cabs have skinted me out proper lol.

I have seen some coolbox types but i have read they dry the buds to quickly, thing is though i dont really want to be forking out on more high quality fans and filters. What are your thoughts mate?

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Hi dude, Not a problem How much space do you have at the end of your 2 cabs? We can make a drying cab pretty cheaply.. I'll do some sketches and see what looks best... if we average each plant making 4oZ then we need a drying cab that can hold a total of 16oZ.

Would you be getting another cab made up by the same company that did your main cab's? That way the unit would blend in well... However you could just buy a tent that's meant for drying and it'll be miles cheaper - but it won't blend in all that well...So its up to you. If you would like to do another cab let me know what space you have and I'll jot down the dimensions.

This is the last thing that you will need to have a very professional, and productive set-up Oh also when you next go to ASDA get a load of the glass Mason Jars with the metal clip lids...They are only £2 each and are essential for when you need to 'CURE' Your buds, after you have dried your bud's out! I bought 15 just for my 2 plants.. If you can find simerlar jars that are bigger by all means do that

How much money can you inject into the 'Dry-Cab' ?? I'll design it as cheap as poss. for you - STELTHY

There is not much space at all mate, 15" max at the side of the cab. I really need this to be as small as we can possibly get away with, i could do with it as cheap as possible too mate. There isnt that much room it the spare room anyway as my wife is keeping a few bits in there so it needs to be as smal as possible.

I think i may go for the tent mate as it only needs to be up a couple of weeks at a time and if need be i can take it down quickly, i only really opted for stealth to please the misses as we rent you see and she wanted something i could either move wuick if need be or something like my cabs which i just have to turn off if anyone did ever inspect the house which i doubt they will.

I have been to Asda today actually and i was looking at those mason jars but didnt know if they were good enough but now i do know ill nip down in the week and pick some up.

Regarding my ph mate, the bucket i transfered the new seedling to has risen to 6.4 already in about 5 hours so i have adjusted that, the other 2 buckets i altered this morning had both risen to over 6 again aswell so i have taken them down to around 5.5 too. Im hoping this isnt a sign im gonna have ph problems as i do have very hard water.

Ill test them all again in the morning.and hopefully they will be stable then.

BudBaby said:

There is not much space at all mate, 15" max at the side of the cab. I really need this to be as small as we can possibly get away with, i could do with it as cheap as possible too mate. There isnt that much room it the spare room anyway as my wife is keeping a few bits in there so it needs to be as smal as possible.

I think i may go for the tent mate as it only needs to be up a couple of weeks at a time and if need be i can take it down quickly, i only really opted for stealth to please the misses as we rent you see and she wanted something i could either move wuick if need be or something like my cabs which i just have to turn off if anyone did ever inspect the house which i doubt they will.

I have been to Asda today actually and i was looking at those mason jars but didnt know if they were good enough but now i do know ill nip down in the week and pick some up.

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How about something like this?? But maybe £80 less! ?? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Small-Grow-Tent-Drying-Kit_W0QQitemZ400199749700QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=221244786218&rvr_id=221244786218&cguid=a9d15f4912b0a0e203954db5ffed56f6 I'll keep looking


http://www.hydroponicssupercentre.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=42
This one would be PERFECT: It has a built in fan! and filter! will have plenty of room to space your buds apart when drying and its only £149.99 all in....and its not all that big I like it and am buying one myself - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

Regarding my ph mate, the bucket i transfered the new seedling to has risen to 6.4 already in about 5 hours so i have adjusted that, the other 2 buckets i altered this morning had both risen to over 6 again aswell so i have taken them down to around 5.5 too. Im hoping this isnt a sign im gonna have ph problems as i do have very hard water.

Ill test them all again in the morning.and hopefully they will be stable then.

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My PH is very consistant, I am not sure how to guide you on this one honestly... erm, all I can say is practice makes perfect...But try and balance the PH in your tub before adding it to the plants and defo dont add acid (PH Down to the DWC tubs) ...(Bad practice)...When the roots are visable they'll hate direct contact with Phosphorus Acid before it gets chance to mix in! I am sure you'll be fine but if not I hope someone else can give you some pointers on PH ?? lol.. I'll keep my fingers crossed that you get a stable reading in the morning - STELTHY

From what i have read mate some systems take a week or two before they are stable, ill check them again in the morning. I have been adding the ph down directly to the bucket I wont do it again now i know. How do you add it mate? Do you mix it with water first, take some liquid out of the bucket and top back up with low ph water?

I thin for drying im gonna get a small tent and a budget fan and filter, i will have to make some shelves for it but it will give me something to do. Do you think ill get away with a 60x60x120 tent and make a few shelves for it, im having difficylty picturing 16 oz lol.

BudBaby said:

From what i have read mate some systems take a week or two before they are stable, ill check them again in the morning. I have been adding the ph down directly to the bucket I wont do it again now i know. How do you add it mate? Do you mix it with water first, take some liquid out of the bucket and top back up with low ph water?

I thin for drying im gonna get a small tent and a budget fan and filter, i will have to make some shelves for it but it will give me something to do. Do you think ill get away with a 60x60x120 tent and make a few shelves for it, im having difficylty picturing 16 oz lol.

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I mix the water/nuits/ph down etc.. 1st.. in a seperate container out side of the cab, away from the DWC pots, I add my PH Down, test my PH (until piss yellow 5.5) then add all my nuits,(stiriing between each additive) then PH test until 5.5 is reached again and then I transfer it into the DWC POTS with a Syphon pump....and forget about it...when it comes to adding more nuits/topping up I treat it separatly and then just add it straight to the mix with no furthur testing

Yeah dont adjust the PH straight into the DWC tubs...If the acid comes in contact with the plants roots, the roots will burn big time and thats not cool! This acid (Phosphorus acid) is so powerful, it will burn through almost anything .... Including roots!

I think the lower LINK for £149.99 would be ideal mate. I am buying one today, they have built in fans & Filters, lots of shelves and have good REP! If you have 16oZ of wet bud you'll be wanting to let it all dry well, and at an even rate.. I think this is an important step into the final stages of the op. and wouldn't reccomend skimping on one of the last vitals. You could try n copy the design and possible use cheaper parts but I would go with the one thats purposely built for the job and £150 isn't that much if you consider the total so far. They also are both easy and quick to assemble/de-assemble! and on the bright side The only thing left to do after that is put the dried Buds in jars (£2 each @ ASDA - nice n cheap...) Then it's job done - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

From what i have read mate some systems take a week or two before they are stable, ill check them again in the morning. I have been adding the ph down directly to the bucket I wont do it again now i know. How do you add it mate? Do you mix it with water first, take some liquid out of the bucket and top back up with low ph water?

I thin for drying im gonna get a small tent and a budget fan and filter, i will have to make some shelves for it but it will give me something to do. Do you think ill get away with a 60x60x120 tent and make a few shelves for it, im having difficylty picturing 16 oz lol.

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I mix the water/nuits/ph down etc.. 1st.. in a seperate container out side of the cab, away from the DWC pots, I add my PH Down, test my PH (until piss yellow 5.5) then add all my nuits,(stiriing between each additive) then PH test until 5.5 is reached again and then I transfer it into the DWC POTS with a Syphon pump....and forget about it...when it comes to adding more nuits/topping up I treat it separatly and then just add it straight to the mix with no furthur testing

Yeah dont adjust the PH straight into the DWC tubs...If the acid comes in contact with the plants roots, the roots will burn big time and thats not cool! This acid (Phosphorus acid) is so powerful, it will burn through almost anything .... Including roots!

I think the lower LINK for £149.99 would be ideal mate. I am buying one today, they have built in fans & Filters, lots of shelves and have good REP! If you have 16oZ of wet bud you'll be wanting to let it all dry well, and at an even rate.. I think this is an important step into the final stages of the op. and wouldn't reccomend skimping on one of the last vitals. You could try n copy the design and possible use cheaper parts but I would go with the one thats purposely built for the job and £150 isn't that much if you consider the total so far. They also are both easy and quick to assemble/de-assemble! and on the bright side The only thing left to do after that is put the dried Buds in jars (£2 each @ ASDA - nice n cheap...) Then it's job done - STELTHY

stelthy said:

I mix the water/nuits/ph down etc.. 1st.. in a seperate container out side of the cab, away from the DWC pots, I add my PH Down, test my PH (until piss yellow 5.5) then add all my nuits,(stiriing between each additive) then PH test until 5.5 is reached again and then I transfer it into the DWC POTS with a Syphon pump....and forget about it...when it comes to adding more nuits/topping up I treat it separatly and then just add it straight to the mix with no furthur testing

Yeah dont adjust the PH straight into the DWC tubs...If the acid comes in contact with the plants roots, the roots will burn big time and thats not cool! This acid (Phosphorus acid) is so powerful, it will burn through almost anything .... Including roots!

I think the lower LINK for £149.99 would be ideal mate. I am buying one today, they have built in fans & Filters, lots of shelves and have good REP! If you have 16oZ of wet bud you'll be wanting to let it all dry well, and at an even rate.. I think this is an important step into the final stages of the op. and wouldn't reccomend skimping on one of the last vitals. You could try n copy the design and possible use cheaper parts but I would go with the one thats purposely built for the job and £150 isn't that much if you consider the total so far. They also are both easy and quick to assemble/de-assemble! and on the bright side The only thing left to do after that is put the dried Buds in jars (£2 each @ ASDA - nice n cheap...) Then it's job done - STELTHY

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Its not so much the price mate its the size of it, i could do with it half the width really as i only have a small amount of room. This is why im thinking a 60cm square tent and then maybe put one of these in it http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Plant-Care-407/Accessories-479/Drying-Nets-1273.asp

Do you think one of those nets would hold up to 16 oz?

Also mate how much do you dilute your ph down? Was thinking add some to a little bit if water and then add to the dwc buckets, save me having to keep taking liquid out and then haveing to top it back up?

Just checked ph mate, although they had risen again isnt wast as much as yesterday so from what ive read it seems like it is getting stabalised

Ill check again tonight but i rekon they will be fine now.

Is 60% humidity ok for the dark period?

They are looking cracking now mate, two have very small real leaves and one has a set a bit bigger. There all nice and green and the stems are goign a purple colour, they look really healthy

Humidity has raised to 70%.

Those drying nets are about 0.25mtr sq and there is 8 levels so that would give me 2 sq mtrs of drying space, im not sure if this is enough for my needs?

One of these would fit perfectly in that 60cm square tent i was telling you about.

Everything is looking well, i can def see improvements every morning. PH is alot more stabe now, its raised about 0.1-2 in 24 hours so ive adjusted it one last time to between 5.4-5.8 so even if it does rise a little bit im still covered. Plants seem to be loving the light so close to them

What i did with the ph down this morning is add what i needed to the water sample i was testing and chucked it in the bucket and it worked fine

Misses is moaning though because you can still hear the fan going from down stairs I dont think its to bad but if i turn them both on you can hear it a bit. Im gonna have a mess about later and see how low i can have it on while still being effective. You can only really hear it if you stand directly underneath it.


*Its not the fan its the buckets making the whooshing sound, im gonna try and lay them on a couple of sound proof tiles later and see if that at least helps with the vibration noise down stairs at least, if not ill get some heavy duty foam, not sure what i can do about the noise from the airstones though*

**i have turned them down a bit and this has helped but im really supprised how loud the noise from the airstones is, saying this though its only really bad if you stand directly underneath the cabs down stairs. One of the airstones wasnt working but i have sorted it and reattached the airline, one of the airstones has also come away from the bottom of the bucket Its still bubbling away nicely though, not sure if this is a major concern, let me know please dude**

I have just layed some old underlay(given it a good clean first)underneath the buckets, its really helped with the whooshing sound. Ill do another layer and i rekon that will virtually stop it

A couple of update pics mate, on of the plants was starting to bend over to much so i have removed it and buried it deeper in the buckets to give it some support. Let me know what you think.