Stealth Hydro Bubbleponics. Info Reviews

TechnoMage

Well-Known Member
I've thought about going with a Bubbleponics unit but I think it might be to tall for my grow space. All my pots are under 10" and my grow space is only 48" high, and that includes the light and carbon filter. In that tight of a space, that extra 2.5" might make a big difference.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
I also have height issues but not that severe. My ceiling is slopped (attic) and my height ranges from 4' to 7' . You would have to grow shorties with that limitation. My bubbleponics res height is 12" but if you self build I've seen 8" high 10 gallon totes. I use supercropping and tipping of the netpot to control the height. Have a 250 hps and a mix of 2700k and 6500k cfl side lights for flower and use 6500k cfl's primarily for veg..
 

TechnoMage

Well-Known Member
Our areas sound similar, except for the height. I'm using a Super Agro 270w HPS but no side lighting. I use a mix of 6500k/2700k, mostly 6500k, T5's for vegging.

I also have height issues but not that severe. My ceiling is slopped (attic) and my height ranges from 4' to 7' . You would have to grow shorties with that limitation. My bubbleponics res height is 12" but if you self build I've seen 8" high 10 gallon totes. I use supercropping and tipping of the netpot to control the height. Have a 250 hps and a mix of 2700k and 6500k cfl side lights for flower and use 6500k cfl's primarily for veg..
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
I stick my cfl's in some Lowe's reflectors (the big one's not the little cheap ones). I find side lights benefical to get under the canopy when it gets full.

If I ever do try soil inside ( I get experimental sometimes) I'll def being using FF.

Do you vent the 270? I didn't have to as I can keep the closet door open but have since added a 400 in a cool tube with a 265 Dayton blower for the other side of the closet and I'm trying ebb and flow. Told you I get experimental sometimes.
 

TechnoMage

Well-Known Member
Yeah I vent. My vent chain is:
passive intake -> carbon filter -> cool tube -> 4" Vortex fan -> exhaust

Right now the room temp is 72 degrees and the cab is 73.2 degrees.
 

HAQER

Member
There have been some questions about shipping. I ordered an SH Bubbleponics 6 plant stater kit on 9/18 (which was a Friday night, so we might as well call it Monday 9/21). It was shipped on 9/25 and arrives on Thursday 10/1 (my birthday)!! I haven't gotten my lights or other equipment yet. I'm in the Nuggetry's grow class and on schedule to start growing with the other classmates, which should be 2-3 weeks from now. This is gonna be my first grow. I can't wait!
 

HAQER

Member
When I ordered the kit, I was planning on doing a stealth setup with a tent inside of a closet. The six plant starter kit would have been perfect for that. Since then, I've enrolled in a local cultivation course so I'm thinking larger scale now and growing in the closet itself instead of a tent inside the closet. With their help, I'm much more confident going with a larger setup. I did a lot of research online and got to a point where I had a lot of questions, thoughts, and ideas about my specific setup. They answered all of my questions and some. The guy running the course told me to just stick with what I bought since it's my first grow, but knowing me, I'll use this thing once and then build something bigger.

This kit just won't work for me since I'm actually hoping to flower the legal limit in my county, six plants at a time. It looks like I'll just have to pay for shipping back to SH, which I'm willing to do. The kit arrives on Thursday so I'll take a look and see if I want to keep it. I just got back from Wal-mart and am about 90% sure I'm gonna have to return this kit. I'm gonna build my own. I was worried about how to cut the holes neatly and then remembered I have a heated Xacto knife I had bought to cut hash a long time ago. That'll slice right through the plastic. I feel really bad having to return this but I have no choice. At least it'll be returned immediately unused. I'm gonna visit my local hydro store and do some math before I do anything rash though.
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Gotta do what you gotta do. Home made is good most of the time. The purpose of the SH system is to get a noob started with the proper set up to grow bud from start to finish. We all expand and update and grow as we learn. I'm doing and ebb and flow experiment because I got the basics down and want to learn more. The plant itself is not addictive but growing it is. I've added a 250 watt HPS, lots of cfls, a 400 watt hps for my ebb and flow project, upgraded air pump. strain seeds instead of bag seeds, GH flora series nutes instead of the sh nutes, various additives, a hempy experiment, etc., etc, etc. If you grow with water and bubbles you're still a bubblehead!
 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society
When I ordered the kit, I was planning on doing a stealth setup with a tent inside of a closet. The six plant starter kit would have been perfect for that. Since then, I've enrolled in a local cultivation course so I'm thinking larger scale now and growing in the closet itself instead of a tent inside the closet. With their help, I'm much more confident going with a larger setup. I did a lot of research online and got to a point where I had a lot of questions, thoughts, and ideas about my specific setup. They answered all of my questions and some. The guy running the course told me to just stick with what I bought since it's my first grow, but knowing me, I'll use this thing once and then build something bigger.

This kit just won't work for me since I'm actually hoping to flower the legal limit in my county, six plants at a time. It looks like I'll just have to pay for shipping back to SH, which I'm willing to do. The kit arrives on Thursday so I'll take a look and see if I want to keep it. I just got back from Wal-mart and am about 90% sure I'm gonna have to return this kit. I'm gonna build my own. I was worried about how to cut the holes neatly and then remembered I have a heated Xacto knife I had bought to cut hash a long time ago. That'll slice right through the plastic. I feel really bad having to return this but I have no choice. At least it'll be returned immediately unused. I'm gonna visit my local hydro store and do some math before I do anything rash though.

yea, what MostlyCrazy said.

Almost everyone outgrows the kit, but it is a STARTER Kit. It taught me a lot about Temperatures, humidity, lights, water, pH, (oh, a lot about pH) and just growing in water, in general. Being a fat lazy OLD man, I still use the SH nutes, they are just too easy and simple to not use them, and after 7 grows, I still have not learned much at all about other brands of nutrients. I have used just a little Cal-Mag and Liquid Karma as supplements and catalysts.
I've gone to larger pumps and additional air stones too. And MORE LIGHTS, but still using cFLs. But other than that, I still use the kit as is, and I love it.
 

HomeGrownHairy

Well-Known Member
I 've seen a couple of people with literacy problems and could not read or follow the instructions and they had a problem with it. Some people are just not smart enough to be successful with bubbleponics.
The ones than can grow, do. The ones that can't, bitch about the equipment. :peace:
 

RPsmoke420

Active Member
Thats truly amazing !

To be honest, I didn't believe that the tubes made that much of a difference (i use them, but wasn't sure). Those pics are hard to argue with ! Awesome.
 

HAQER

Member
yea, what MostlyCrazy said.

Almost everyone outgrows the kit, but it is a STARTER Kit. It taught me a lot about Temperatures, humidity, lights, water, pH, (oh, a lot about pH) and just growing in water, in general. Being a fat lazy OLD man, I still use the SH nutes, they are just too easy and simple to not use them, and after 7 grows, I still have not learned much at all about other brands of nutrients. I have used just a little Cal-Mag and Liquid Karma as supplements and catalysts.
I've gone to larger pumps and additional air stones too. And MORE LIGHTS, but still using cFLs. But other than that, I still use the kit as is, and I love it.
When I read starter kit, I thought it meant like new to growing starter, not start your plants in this thing and then move them to something bigger. Of course, I'm sure this works for 6 regular plants but the plants we like obviously tend to grow larger.
 

HAQER

Member
You just have to go here,
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/234683-my-first-grow-diy-dwc-26.html
to Post # 258 and look at the pics.
You will find pics of a seed grow started in plain DWC, no feeder tubes, and comparison pics of seeds started at the same time WITH Feeder tubes and water pump, that he did as an experiment.
I still plan on using a submersible pump and hub with lines to each net pot. Honestly, my setup is going to be almost exactly like the Bubbleponics kit I ordered except for a larger reservoir, possibly 6" nets (depending on if I go 14gal or 31gal), and more/larger air stone(s) or wands.

I guess I have the advantage of having the SH Bubbleponics kit here while I'm building mine. Of course, I'm paying for shipping back to them to have this advantage lol. I think in the long run, it will be worth it.

I'm investing in a 400w or 600w HPS light with switchable HPS/MH Electronic Ballast and air-cooled hood. I might as well go all out and go with a bigger hydro kit. I think the nute stuff I can figure out with the help from the guys down at Nuggetry where I am enrolled in their growing course.

I've had doubts about the SH kit since I found out it's not even gonna take up half my closet and is only 6gal. I'm the type of person that if I don't return this kit right now and make the one I want, it'll bother me until I finally give in and do it.

My "finance dept" agrees with me and is willing to pay shipping back to SH and pay for supplies to build my own.

I know you mentioned, you're older and like the SH kit because it's easy. I'm only 25, I work full-time from home and have way too much time on my hands (I'm actually on the clock now). I'm not usually big on the DIY stuff but this doesn't seem too hard, If my heated Xacto knife doesn't work, I'll get a Dremel or cheap Drill. I've been meaning to get one anyways.

My cousin once told me when I was trying to decide on an LCD monitor, "(have) No regrets..." Well, I'm already regretting the SH kit and it hasn't even arrived :(

Not saying there's anything wrong with the kit. It's just with all of the knowledge and the great DIYs I have found, it's just not for me. I will still be doing a write up of my build and journal of my grow to help others but I won't be an official Bubblehead lol
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
NO problems, Haqer! If you can build it and get the specs right by following the sh design then more power to you. I have one bought and one homemade. I use one for veg and one for flower and switch them to establish a perpetual grow. Goes, veg for 5 weeks, take clones, switch to flower, get clones going in other set-up, finish flower on the first tank and harvest, move clones to veg, repeat! Got any questions, we'll be glad to help. Lots of growers go DIY. I went DIY on my ebb and flow set-up with the assistance of a kind soul on another thread.
 

HAQER

Member
I'd eventually like to get a perpetual system going. I'll probably just end up taking some clones and putting em in a Root Riot or something this time around. I don't know, I guess I'll have to wait and see. I'm just glad I've got resources available when I have questions.
 
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