Stoner's views on Barack Obama as President

Your views on President Barack Obama

  • I voted for Obama, but regret it.

    Votes: 10 6.1%

  • I voted for Obama, and im still glad.

    Votes: 39 23.9%

  • I voted for Mccain, but Obama is doing good.

    Votes: 2 1.2%

  • I voted for Mccain, why didn't you?

    Votes: 28 17.2%

  • I didnt vote, but im glad Obama won

    Votes: 8 4.9%

  • I didnt vote, but i wish Obama lost

    Votes: 17 10.4%

  • I voted for Ron Paul, but Obama is doing good

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • I voted for Ron Paul, Why didn't you?

    Votes: 29 17.8%

  • I didnt vote, and i could care less.

    Votes: 13 8.0%

  • This poll is stupid, fuck the asshole who posted it.

    Votes: 16 9.8%
  • Total voters
    163
  • Poll closed .
doc111

doc111

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TheDemocrat said:
Survey: Obama Ranked 15th Best President, Bush 39th
Obama Ranked 15th Best President, Bush 39th

President Obama ranks 15th on a new survey of the best American presidents, slightly higher than any other recent president.
Researchers at Siena College in New York polled 238 presidential scholars, asking them to rate all 43 U.S. presidents in 19 categories—from imagination and integrity to their accomplishments in foreign and domestic policy.
Study director Douglas Lonnstrom says Mr. Obama’s predecessors all started out in the middle range, around number 20.
Siena College has conducted the survey since 1982. It’s always done one year after a new president takes office.
President Obama received high marks for imagination, intelligence and communication, but he scored poorly on family background.
Lonnstrom says many other presidents came from extremely elite families, while Mr. Obama was raised by a single mother and his middle-class grandparents.
Former President George W. Bush entered the survey as number 23 back in 2002. But one year after leaving office, he’s in the bottom five at number 39.
This time, he fared poorly in communication, intelligence, handling the economy and foreign policy accomplishments.
"He just had a terrible time,” says Lonnstrom. “When he left office, the economy was in shambles. He had two wars going on.”
Lonnstrom points out that presidential rankings tend to shift over time for those in the middle of the pack.
But at the top of the list, the same five presidents have had a lock on the first five spots since the survey began.
Franklin D. Roosevelt has been number one every time. This year he’s followed by his distant cousin Teddy Roosevelt, then Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
It’s the first time Teddy Roosevelt has ranked second, overtaking Lincoln who held that spot for 20 years.
Since the last survey in 2002, Bill Clinton moved up from number 18 to 13th. Ronald Reagan dropped two places from 16th to 18th, and Jimmy Carter fell from 25th to 32nd.
The bottom five presidents have consistently included Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce. Johnson was ranked at the very bottom this year.
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How can a president not even half way through his first term get ranked this high and with the lowest approval ratings of a president at this point in his presidency?:-? This reinforces the reason why polls are bullshit IMO. :roll:

UncleBuck said:
it would take two obama terms AND two hillary terms just to get back to where we were before bush annihilated this country. i'm not sure why the spending gets used against obama either, especially when most economists agree we need to do more spending...it is simply what happens in recessions like we are in. if you want to make sure it is a prolonged recession, just go ahead and slash everything back to the bone....not very effective of a strategy, as good as it may sound to those worried about the deficit.

and as far as 'obamacare' destroying this country, i doubt it. it is already insuring more people and has built in cost controls...

The Raether family of suburban Milwaukee will gain from two of the changes: Elimination of lifetime coverage limits and a ban on insurers turning away children in poor health.

Four-year-old daughter Mira, who was born prematurely and has kidney problems, exhausted the lifetime limit on her parents' policy earlier this year. Mira now has temporary Medicare coverage because of a kidney transplant, but her parents were worried about what would happen when they have to get her back on private insurance.

"A huge weight has been lifted," said Sheryl Raether, the mother. "She has ongoing health care needs, and I was afraid she'd hit another lifetime limit." Medicare not only covers seniors, but people of any age with permanent kidney failure.

The major early coverage benefits include:

_ Allowing young adults to stay on their parents' coverage until they turn 26. In 2011, an estimated 650,000 young people who would otherwise have been uninsured will gain coverage. Another 600,000 will benefit by switching from individually purchased policies to less costly, more comprehensive employer plans. The number with coverage will grow in 2012 and 2013.

_A health plan for uninsured people with pre-existing health conditions. From 200,000 to 400,000 could benefit in 2011, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The government may limit enrollment if $5 billion allocated through 2013 starts to run out, as projected. Beginning in 2014, insurers will be required to accept all applicants, regardless of medical history.

more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/05/first-stages-of-new-healt_n_635616.html


i know how much people like to tell us to 'stop blaming bush' already, but facts are facts: he really was a terrible president who ran the country into the ground. only this year will his tax cuts for the wealthy start to phase out and tax brackets will go back to reagan era levels (ie, communistsocialismredistributionofwealthclearlytheendofamerica). we will remain mired in two wars that were funded on the grandkids' credit card. the most trusted name in news tells it like it is:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/tue-june-29-2010-helen-mirren
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I know it sucks to admit that the guy you voted for sucks but it's ok UB, nobody will ridicule you for it. I promise. :mrgreen:
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
I know it sucks to admit that the guy you voted for sucks but it's ok UB, nobody will ridicule you for it. I promise. :mrgreen:
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i know it sucks to admit he is not a redistribution of wealth commie socialist che guevara antichrist racist against whites and america hating maoist of the highest order, but it's ok doc, nobody will ridicule you for it. i promise :mrgreen:

and doc, the rankings are constantly changing and have nothing to do with popularity...check it: your boy bush was once worthy of a higher rating than #39....he used to be as high as #19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
 
doc111

doc111

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UncleBuck said:
i know it sucks to admit he is not a redistribution of wealth commie socialist che guevara antichrist racist against whites and america hating maoist of the highest order, but it's ok doc, nobody will ridicule you for it. i promise :mrgreen:

and doc, the rankings are constantly changing and have nothing to do with popularity...check it: your boy bush was once worthy of a higher rating than #39....he used to be as high as #19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
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Why do you keep assuming that Bush was "my boy" when I continually say that I didn't vote for the fucker? I don't think that Obama is all of those things but he was a newbie politician when he started his campaign and simply didn't have the experience IMO to be the president. I believe his record speaks volumes to this fact. I care not one little bit about those rankings and polls and shit. Humans are fickle and can't make up their mind what the hell they want or who they think runs shit the right way! My own political views have shifted as I've gained real world experience and seen what both republicans and democrats are all about. They sure as hell aren't about "We the people" anymore and haven't been for a long time. The extraordinary times we are living in right now call for a strong leader that instills confidence in the populace. Obama isn't the uniter he was billed as and isn't instilling confidence in too many, even among his own party!:evil:
 
Big P

Big P

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u guys had it all wrong, bush wasnt 100% great but he was an actual a truth teller who loves this country more than his own life, however as we know, nobody gon get any pussy for telling the truth


so bush tells the hard truths and gets no pussy for it


obama lies trough his teeth gets the pussy while hes fuckin 2 other chicks , all the while hes pointing to your ex boyfriend bush blaming him for why obama gave you STD's, and some still think hes dreamy


its all about running game

if you have never become steet smart and I mean down and dirty type street smart you will get played. and most voters are yuppies. who get played like a drum


if you ignore what this fool is obviously really tryin to do, you deserve what you get, but im gonna make sure you dont get what you deserve, best i can atleast, with as many people who will come with me in November that i can muster


you could see this fool comming from a mile away
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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SouthernGanja said:
When is he gonna close that Guantanamo Bay thing?

Just askin.
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GITMO? As soon as he can get over the NIMBY issue. He cant give them back to their home countries because they will do *bad* things to them and nobody else wants them.

He is screwed on that promise...
 
Mindmelted

Mindmelted

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This was just emailed to me....








· Wayne Allyn Root (born July 20, 1961) is an American politician, entrepreneur, television and radio personality, best-selling author and political commentator.








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WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Overwhelm the system





WAYNE ALLYN ROOT​




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Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.



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Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.






--Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?









--Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."





-- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.





-- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.





-- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.





-- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.


With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.


Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.




 
Big P

Big P

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Such a great summery,

I can't understand it, I'm a good guy, I can sense it, u can see into a mans soul, the more they speak the more they reveal

People blind themselves too much, I never wanted to kid myself or fool myself, i always stay critical of myself rather than try to boost myself up with false realities

I'm rambling drank too much, just keep an eye on that 1/2 white guy, since when u trust a white man? Lol that 1/2 white gonna get us all enslaved
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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My answer is, this squatter who is occupying 1600 Pennsylvania is the scourge of the earth, the most hideous leader in the history of this nation, I can't even call this thing a leader, I pray this country learns from this dismal mistake. Thank you for asking.
 
abe23

abe23

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Purplekrunchie said:
My answer is, this squatter who is occupying 1600 Pennsylvania is the scourge of the earth, the most hideous leader in the history of this nation, I can't even call this thing a leader, I pray this country learns from this dismal mistake. Thank you for asking.
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Dude, I got good news for you! George W. Bush hasn't been president since february 2009!

It's awesome, I know!

You're welcome!
 
*Kb*

*Kb*

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smknnpokn said:
obama is the antichrist.
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LOL

The problem is with the Congress not Mr. President...Everybody loves to blame the President but Congress spends the money.
The people that love to bash Bush...don't forget his democrat majority congress ;)
 
sharon1

sharon1

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Alphaape said:
Obama is a great president. He has inherited republican bullshit like, two wars, deregulation of banks that led to our economy flopping, the "war on drugs" created by that trash president Ronald Reagan who does not care about the American people, he inherited a white house infiltrated by big business murders that are greedy and oppressive. Not to mention all the debt, lies, and bullshit being fed to the American people since Reagan. People don't want to talk about the elaphant in the too
but I will half the hate is disguised in racism. People don't like that there is a black man in the white house and it is truly unfortunate but it's the truth. He's not perfect but he's the best we have had in a loooooooong time.
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Braaaahahahahahahahahaha.....racism. That statement right there discredits your intelligence to that of a drunk flea. Amazing... the amount of total morons who STILL insist on spouting that old tired, false dripping bullshit.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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abe23 said:
Dude, I got good news for you! George W. Bush hasn't been president since february 2009!

It's awesome, I know!

You're welcome!
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I have a little advice for ya there abe, pull you're head out of you're ass, go out and purchase a calendar, preferably one that says 2010 on it, read up on some current events. After that you and I can have some nice debates on issues that are of the here and now. Hows that sound abe? Hurry though, 2010 is half over already.
 
Purplekrunchie

Purplekrunchie

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*Kb* said:
LOL

The problem is with the Congress not Mr. President...Everybody loves to blame the President but Congress spends the money.
The people that love to bash Bush...don't forget his democrat majority congress ;)
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Congress didn't surround him with trash like Eric Holder and Van Jones, the great con man squatting at 1600 did that all by his lonesome.
 
Mindmelted

Mindmelted

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Why UB because the truth fucking hurts...
We all know you love the pres and wish to blow him,But not everone is enthralled with him as you.
 
abe23

abe23

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Purplekrunchie said:
I have a little advice for ya there abe, pull you're head out of you're ass, go out and purchase a calendar, preferably one that says 2010 on it, read up on some current events. After that you and I can have some nice debates on issues that are of the here and now. Hows that sound abe? Hurry though, 2010 is half over already.
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I'm really sorry you don't have a sense of humor....

My point was that it depends on your perspective. I didn't care very much for our previous president. In fact, I'm pretty sure I despised him at least as much as you do our current one.

My advice to you would be to did what all of us who disliked w. did for 8 years, which is chill the fuck out and wait for the next election. If obama really is such a disaster, republicans should have no problem getting him out in 2012. I'm happy to have some nice debates in the meantime, though....
 
abe23

abe23

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Mindmelted said:
Why UB because the truth fucking hurts...
We all know you love the pres and wish to blow him,But not everone is enthralled with him as you.
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Yes, some of us would rather blow the ghost of ronald reagan. That's cool....knock yourself out.
 
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