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Bodyne

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Not near as many repetitive threads from noobs asking the same questions over and over, and knowledgeable growers laying it down. Yes, there's a lot of traffic differences and content differences for sure. That's why riu has to work a lil to beat off that rep they used to have. It's a lil better .
 

Bakersfield

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I'll just state that I've not had a problem with PinkBox. I recieved what I bought.
This forum isn't perfect and Troll It Up definately applies to a few sections.
RIU has also been around for a long ass time and has layers like sediment of the same old questions.
But I like it here, it's the most lively forum I'm on.

A negative post here will influence many newbs and Seasoned Growers alike.
Look at all the paid advertisers here.
It's Pink Boxes arrogance (akin to burying his head in the sand) to avoid these public complaints by not worrying about what forums have to say.
 

Hawg Wild

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I haven't dealt with them at all, but I don't know if I see anything definitive from the pics to say Pink Box doesn't have legit clones. Honestly, I've taken cuts from my friend's HPS hydro grow myself and they come out looking A LOT different in my LED living soil SIP grow. And those were all cuts that no one touched but me. They veg differently, stretch less, have shorter node spacing in flower, and usually come out denser, but they smoke the same at the end of the day.
 

Bodyne

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Simple point was IG has a huge audience, riu has a big audience. Ever look at uk420 or icmag on a given day? Hence why I suspect most breeders aren't really worried bout one customer on one forum .
 

Mulder420

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Simple point was IG has a huge audience, riu has a big audience. Ever look at uk420 or icmag on a given day? Hence why I suspect most breeders aren't really worried bout one customer on one forum .
Plus people have short attention span and will forget and move on
 

dubekoms

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I haven't dealt with them at all, but I don't know if I see anything definitive from the pics to say Pink Box doesn't have legit clones. Honestly, I've taken cuts from my friend's HPS hydro grow myself and they come out looking A LOT different in my LED living soil SIP grow. And those were all cuts that no one touched but me. They veg differently, stretch less, have shorter node spacing in flower, and usually come out denser, but they smoke the same at the end of the day.
The cut pink sent me is 100% not the breeders cut. The buds are more airy, stretched out AND I'm growing under led so they should be shorter and denser like you said. It smells more like trop cookies than anything else, I'm barely getting any cherry. The actual breeder of the cut is saying it's not his. Pink quit responding to me after I sent him pics. I don't know how you could need any more evidence that it's fake.
 

Hawg Wild

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The cut pink sent me is 100% not the breeders cut. The buds are more airy, stretched out AND I'm growing under led so they should be shorter and denser like you said. It smells more like trop cookies than anything else, I'm barely getting any cherry. The actual breeder of the cut is saying it's not his. Pink quit responding to me after I sent him pics. I don't know how you could need any more evidence that it's fake.
The breeder is only going to know what it does in his grow. I don't know anything about the cut and, like I said, I haven't dealt with them at all. I was speaking only on my experience with clones looking and growing very differently in different setups. I don't have a dog in the fight, so don't come at me like I'm calling you a liar or trying to defend the reputation of someone I don't even know. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't just start trashing the guy based on anything I've seen here.
 

dubekoms

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The breeder is only going to know what it does in his grow. I don't know anything about the cut and, like I said, I haven't dealt with them at all. I was speaking only on my experience with clones looking and growing very differently in different setups. I don't have a dog in the fight, so don't come at me like I'm calling you a liar or trying to defend the reputation of someone I don't even know. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't just start trashing the guy based on anything I've seen here.
I'm not "trashing" the guy and I'm not "coming at you" lol I've linked many pics from several different people growing this cut and you can see the similarities between each and every grow. Yes, some strains look significantly different between different grows and environments but that doesn't appear to be the case with this cut. The breeder himself as shared multiple pictures from different growers growing this cut so I'd like to think he knows what he is talking about.
 

UpstateRecGrower

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It smells more like trop cookies than anything else
Have you grown Tropicana cookies? wonder if it could have been mislabeled being it has the same first name.. He used to sell the cookies not sure if he still does.., this is the Tropicana Cookies I bought from him day 50.
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edit: not insinuating that you could have mislabeled cuttings, I was suggesting that maybe pink box did since he sells or at least used to sell Tropicana cookies..
 
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dubekoms

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Have you grown Tropicana cookies? wonder if it could have been mislabeled being it has the same first name.. He used to sell the cookies not sure if he still does.., this is the Tropicana Cookies I bought from him day 50.
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edit: not insinuating that you could have mislabeled cuttings, I was suggesting that maybe pink box did since he sells or at least used to sell Tropicana cookies..
Yeah I've grown it once but tossed it. I was wondering if it was mislabeled as well and even asked him that but he started ignoring me.
 

PJ Diaz

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How long did that take? The trop cherry cut is maybe 2 years old, I figure something like that would take longer than 2 years.
It actually happened quite quickly. I did 3 runs of it and got the super lemon terps. Then the 4th run was weird and super perfumey. I thought I fucked up somehow although the buds looked good. I tried another run with the same cut and got super perfume again and tossed it. So basically it happened within a year's time. Honestly I think this happens a lot which is why there are multiple early og phenos

There have been recent scientific studies which indicate that the main reason there are differences in identical twins is due to genetic mutations after the cells split, bit environment like previously believed.
 

dubekoms

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It actually happened quite quickly. I did 3 runs of it and got the super lemon terps. Then the 4th run was weird and super perfumey. I thought I fucked up somehow although the buds looked good. I tried another run with the same cut and got super perfume again and tossed it. So basically it happened within a year's time. Honestly I think this happens a lot which is why there are multiple early og phenos

There have been recent scientific studies which indicate that the main reason there are differences in identical twins is due to genetic mutations after the cells split, bit environment like previously believed.
I guess it depends on the cut. I've grown my gg4 and wedding cake a couple times now and both haven't changed at all. I see recent pics of the trop cherry on insta and it looks the same as the pics posted in 2019.
 

PJ Diaz

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I guess it depends on the cut. I've grown my gg4 and wedding cake a couple times now and both haven't changed at all. I see recent pics of the trop cherry on insta and it looks the same as the pics posted in 2019.
Yeah, I've grown GG4 and other cuts over and over before without issues too, this was the first cut that changed so rapidly for me, aside from when I got a cut with latent hop viroid. This was different than hplvd tho, because the weed still looked great, it was just the smell/taste that changed. My wife couldn't stand the change in smell tho, which is the main reason I finally tossed it. I tried to slip in i joints a few times without telling her, and she'd always take a hit and look at me sideways saying "this is that perfumey stuff isn't is?".

I should also mention tho that the cut was likely at least a year old by time I got the cut too, then another year after that before it mutated.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Oh, and here's the study I was referring to about genetic mutations in twins: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41588-020-00755-1
Yep, back in college biology we had a chapter on genetic drift caused by stress/trauma in mammals.

It can happen slow or fast depending on several variables. Its a roll of the dice as to how/what/when it will or won't happen. But my limited knowledge on the subject is equal to hearsay.

That hops latent virus on the other hand is just horrible all around and quite predictable once a plant gets it.
 
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