i think a lot of growers are just insane control freaks bent on world domination or something. they can't abide by ANYTHING less than "perfection". i created a "what's up with all the crosses hate?" thread about that very topic. honestly, i think a lot of it is skank breeders that are too greedy to invest in good breeding stock to start their programs and/or take the time to get it right that they're just hatin' on breeders that have better gear.
i've only bought 1 x 5 pack of TGA's JC2 (i bought 3x singles again & 1x of jillybean before) and as it's my #1 favorite, for now, i can see why so many rave so much about his gear, and as i've seen trolls go apeshit & wreak revenge for anyone that"dares" disparage reeferman or barney, i think it's just jealousy and agenda. recently i've been accused of DNA schilling myself because all 3 of their strains that i've tried, sweet haze, sour cream & lemon skunk have been top quality in buzz and/or flavor. well, sour cream is too stony for me, but it was a freebie and i remember it really being popular about 7 years ago. they just don't want to see ANY breeder having fans. i've seen similar jabs at sannies where most seem to think he's one of the best too.
the only way to ever get to the truth for any strain is to read enough reviews. eventually, the truth comes out. i really have to laugh at how transparent all of the threads i see here are that are shopping lists for barney, greenhouse & reeferman gear. if you read enough, there's A LOT of hate for greenhouse in particular, but there's so many "what greenhouse strain should i get?" threads. i gave them a chance with a super lemon haze freebie i placed an order for just to see for myself andit was totally unimpressive, it's high & flavor were no better than much faster fruity haze strains that DIDN'T take 3 mutated leafsets to settle at that.
it's gotta sting SOME breeders that TGA has so many loyal customers AND that he sells his regs in 5 packs or even $11 singles. it's hard to compete against that with $70 no rep schwag or decent stuff you gotta plunk $150 or more down on. mr nice might be a great breeder, but his prices aren't so nice. LOL
that's where i think a lot of greedy fecks have so much hate. they're only in it for the money when you got to put some love in your gear too. i really believe that, just like with cooking. you can taste the pride.
it gets REALLY annoying when control freaks start trying to tell you how you should grow crap in your own garden! for now, i still like sampling the goods from as many growers as possible as long as stick with ones i know have at least some good gear. that too would have to piss a skank breeder off. when you can compare one strain against another, the great stuff is going to stand out. just the other day such a control freak was obsessed with the "you can't smoke anything that hasn't been selected from a pool of 50 mothers" thing that serious breeders do for top quality. i'm not a serious breeder, i'm just having fun trying a bunch of shit that isn't stoney. that's what works for me. besides, if you start with schwag bred from schwag, you NEED a field of 50 mothers to find anything almost acceptable, but if both of the parents you start with are top quality, then everything they make will be too only favoring one parent over the other with phenos.
i haven't seen phenos making that much of a difference either. all 3 of my JC2 gals smoked about the same as did all 5 of my C99s whether they were tall or short pheno. the only serious pheno expression i've seen so far was my masterkush autos that came in 1 tall blonde, two short dark greens and one odd deep crimson, but all 4 smoked about the same. it's way too much work and expense to look for one plant that might have a rare trait and i'm not breeding for rarity anyways, just quality. start with a quality strain bred from quality parents, or even a quality clone someone else selected for, then you have something nice to start with.
besides, i'll put the schwaggiest "common haze" that i've tested up again ANY of the stony greedy fuck cash crapper stoner bud on most street corners any fucking day! anyone that wants to get high will go for a mellow clear headed with euphoria haze over what the fuck ever "bag appeal" (MYTH! PROPOGANDA!!!!) strain they puke up for the almighty dollar any day. i have no use for stoner bud and i KNOW that anyone else that feels the same would rather smoke OK, but not spectacular rokerij "amnesia" before blueverry if they're even "lucky enough" to get access to something that middy and especially any afghani dominant strain.
cash crappers DESPISE competition from gear that actually gets you high. they KNOW a segment of the population will drop them in a hearbeat if they find another dealer with gear that actually gets you high. i'd even call it a conspiracy and if there's ANYTHING i like to do, it's go against the flow.
buddy232... right here
I had the same issues with my "old" dealer before I became legal. A few times I would get a good sativa and request that he ask for it again. He would yell at me giving me all kinds of shit about how it wasn't that good, and sativas take too long to grow, are stringy with no bag appeal, etc.
i've been trolled like you just wouldn't believe over indica contempt! at least one butt sniffer that gets REALLY cranky towards the end of the month when his crack runs out stalked me here from another forum doing everything they can to discredit everything i say no matter how many times i've tripped them up with their lies. he, or his butt buddies try and attack me before admitting that in many places, you CAN'T get high anywhere. this is a fact! the west coast is a much better market, but even here, most shit is just that, more stoner bud. i've only scored bud from one hard to get hold of middleman that has something on the up side of mids. i've tried a lot of strains here including blueberry, and i'm just not impressed.
i'm just too vocal for cash croppers to deal with. they can't seem to abide by any descent. fuck 'em! LOL
but I got 10 of each going right now. 
