Sugar in Soil

mokety said:

i'm sorry but i what i mean was when do i should start use them and how often?

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Hahah, how much did you smoke before writing that sentence.
I just started using them yestaday, 2 weeks. But you can put it in your soil before you even put the seed in, perfectly safe just don't over do it. I do the same 1tbls per L per week.

Ok, so according to Jorge Cervantes reasearch (JORGE'S RX All You Need to Grow :: hightimes.com) molasses does work. the recipe is the tricky part, there is another thread on it here somewhere by videoman. I just started using it on my 2nd week of flower 2 tbsp per gal once a week seems to be a "medium" mixture. I have noticed a increase in growth of the buds and the crystals along with a swet aroma in my room. I am using it injunction with my Nutes and a pproduct called "Sweet". from what i have read you can use molasses during the enitre grow for benifits but the plant really needs it during the last 4-5 weeks of flower. I have my plants in 7 gal pots / in 4x8 trays 8 pots to a tray. I have noticed a "skin" or film formed ontop of pooled water left in tray after watering plants. Ontop of this "skin" i have notice flecks of what looks like bread mold or yeast maybe? I am guessing as a reaction to the sugars present in the stagnant water left in tray. Do you guys know if the "bread Mold" that seems to be restricted to the pools of water and the "skin" on surface is harmful to my plants? or could it be a helpful group of micros as you were speaking of earlier.? there doesnt seem to be any growth of the mold near or on pots or plants and it also hasnt spread or grown where water is not pooling in tray. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks

here the thread from videoman i mentioned as well, sorry about the spelling!
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/7636-more-info-molasses.html

KiLLaBoNgRiP808 said:

Ok, so according to Jorge Cervantes reasearch (JORGE'S RX All You Need to Grow :: hightimes.com) molasses does work. the recipe is the tricky part, there is another thread on it here somewhere by videoman. I just started using it on my 2nd week of flower 2 tbsp per gal once a week seems to be a "medium" mixture. I have noticed a increase in growth of the buds and the crystals along with a swet aroma in my room. I am using it injunction with my Nutes and a pproduct called "Sweet". from what i have read you can use molasses during the enitre grow for benifits but the plant really needs it during the last 4-5 weeks of flower. I have my plants in 7 gal pots / in 4x8 trays 8 pots to a tray. I have noticed a "skin" or film formed ontop of pooled water left in tray after watering plants. Ontop of this "skin" i have notice flecks of what looks like bread mold or yeast maybe? I am guessing as a reaction to the sugars present in the stagnant water left in tray. Do you guys know if the "bread Mold" that seems to be restricted to the pools of water and the "skin" on surface is harmful to my plants? or could it be a helpful group of micros as you were speaking of earlier.? there doesnt seem to be any growth of the mold near or on pots or plants and it also hasnt spread or grown where water is not pooling in tray. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks

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Yeah mate I had exactly the same thing on the tray I have under my plants, and also a fur of mould on the top soil. I over did it with the molasses but now I have found a happy medium. It's not harmful to your plants, they're friendly bacteria that work with the plant in a symbiotic relationship. However, just like the friendly bacteria inside of us, when the numbers get out of control they can be hazardous, I'm not sure in what way this manifests its self in plants, but it's probably not good. What you have doesn't sound dangerous, but I wouldn't leave stagnant water around because it encourages insects and harmful micro-organisms. I'm only in week 4 veg stage and I've noticed results (compared to my last grow where I didn't use them), glad to hear your having good results, happy smoking

Thanks for your input, i am glad to hear you confirm what i have suspected. I will keep an eye on things and if out of control i will remove tray and pressure wash then return. So far things look ok and i have pumped my dehum's at full power. The areas that have begun to dry out already show signs of the "bacteria" dieing off as it appears to not survive without H20. Will keep you guys posted if anything else changes and thanks for your help. Will put up pixs of my XXX strain asap. Have a great weekend!

try cooking molasses a good shot in a 22l(5gal.) water reservoir during bud cycle it
works great for me indoor and out spring is nigh

well that was good reading! whew, god bless you man, for even thinking that stuff up, much less typing it in! but, now my brain is reeling, just like high school (ok more weed now and minus the cigs!) too much reading, must...roll...joint...(puff, puff,) ah, now um, what was the thread on again?

dont know if micorhizzae has been mentioned already, but they work especially well in conjunction with molasses/sugary additives. the sugars feed the micorhizzae (which normally feed off the plant) thereby allowing the plant to divert all energy into growth, bud production, etc.

scias said:

dont know if micorhizzae has been mentioned already, but they work especially well in conjunction with molasses/sugary additives. the sugars feed the micorhizzae (which normally feed off the plant) thereby allowing the plant to divert all energy into growth, bud production, etc.

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So are the micorhizzae some type of bacteria that feed of it?

Also I'm thinking of trying liquid glucose, any1 with any experience?

Titania said:

So are the micorhizzae some type of bacteria that feed of it?

Also I'm thinking of trying liquid glucose, any1 with any experience?

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Mycorihazae fungus grow in the soil and build networks that work in conjunction with your own root system.
They are symbiotic with the plants roots and the plant feeds them and they feed the plants.

Molasses can help to keep them alive and thriving in your soil.
I wouldn't bother with liquid glucose as you yourself said before the plants cant absorb this sized molecule through their root systems.
The molasses also helps to create micro herds that are also beneficial to your soil and root systems.

All though the liquid glucose would help to feed the bacteria it may also feed unwelcome bacteria.
I found with molasses that using 1 dessertspoon in 3 litres of water was plenty and that this created a good balance and didn't encourage shitty soil,mould or a crappy smell from having to much molasses in them

natmoon said:

Mycorihazae fungus grow in the soil and build networks that work in conjunction with your own root system.
They are symbiotic with the plants roots and the plant feeds them and they feed the plants.

Molasses can help to keep them alive and thriving in your soil.
I wouldn't bother with liquid glucose as you yourself said before the plants cant absorb this sized molecule through their root systems.
The molasses also helps to create micro herds that are also beneficial to your soil and root systems.

All though the liquid glucose would help to feed the bacteria it may also feed unwelcome bacteria.
I found with molasses that using 1 dessertspoon in 3 litres of water was plenty and that this created a good balance and didn't encourage shitty soil,mould or a crappy smell from having to much molasses in them

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Right so by feeding the fungus, the fungus doesn't take as much energy from the plant? Is that the idea? Your right the liquid glucose was a bad idea, I can see how it will help harmful bacteria/fungus to multiply. I was thinking along the lines that they may be able to use it more efficiently, much like a bottle of lucozade to an athlete. I used 1 tbls in 1 litre and the water retaining properties of the soil have gone through the roof due to the build up of humus, which has caused me to over water. Thx for the clearing that up for me.

So how late into flowing would you say to keep using the molasses? Should you stop using it while flushing?

stop a week before harvest is plenty