Super Tuesday

abandonconflict · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Left of center right is right

There is no "left party" in American politics, there's a far right wing party and a conservative party, Biden sits on the left of that, along with Obama and the Clintons

Sanders should run as an independent then.

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Biden helped make it impossible for people with student loan debt to vacate it through bankruptcy. I wonder why though..

Ignoring that the Republicans were about to cut the crap out of funding for those student loans forcing people without the means to pay for their college education to continue to sit out of the most effective method of obtaining generational wealth. You are very predictable.

rkymtnman · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Biden helped make it impossible for people with student loan debt to vacate it through bankruptcy. I wonder why though..

so you don't believe in personal responsibility? like Judge Judy says, they ordered the steak, they ate the steak, they gotta pay for the steak.

Padawanbater2 · Mar 3, 2020

hanimmal said:
Clinton and Obama had what a combined 14 years of constant economic growth, marriage equality, health insurance covered more American than ever before, on and on, whatever they were doing it was working. It would be even better if we could have supported them for more than 2 years at a time too.

Pretending to be progressive wins votes, governing like a moderate loses them. That's why Biden won't win, progressives don't buy his pretending to be progressive act when his history in congress shows otherwise. Obama successfully pulled it off, then lost right away when he buckled under establishment/corporate pressure

rkymtnman · Mar 3, 2020

Democrats don't buy Sanders pretending to be a Democrat

Padawanbater2 · Mar 3, 2020

rkymtnman said:
so you don't believe in personal responsibility? like Judge Judy says, they ordered the steak, they ate the steak, they gotta pay for the steak.

Do you mean the kind of "personal responsibility" the executives at the banks had when they crashed the global economy, or does the kind of "personal responsibility" you're referring to only apply to poor people?

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Pretending to be progressive wins votes, governing like a moderate loses them. That's why Biden won't win, progressives don't buy his pretending to be progressive act when his history in congress shows otherwise. Obama successfully pulled it off, then lost right away when he buckled under establishment/corporate pressure

What is a progressive? He lost because he got trolled the shit online by right wing trolls birthing the 'tea party' that was funded by the Koche Bros. People like stability when they actually have things they have worked hard for.

UncleBuck · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
If any of that were true, Hillary Clinton would be president. It sounds like you've been fooled to believe the same narrative the moderate/centrist wing of the Democratic party was trying to sell in 2016. If Biden is the nominee, Trump wins reelection. Vote accordingly, don't say progressives didn't warn you when Biden inevitably loses and everyone blames everything but Biden and establishment policy/strategy for it.

Biden polls best against trump

You briefly believed in polls when sanders was leading them

Padawanbater2 · Mar 3, 2020

hanimmal said:
What is a progressive? He lost because he got trolled the shit online by right wing trolls birthing the 'tea party' that was funded by the Koche Bros. People like stability when they actually have things they have worked hard for.

He lost because he campaigned on "hope and change" and delivered none of it

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Do you mean the kind of "personal responsibility" the executives at the banks had when they crashed the global economy, or does the kind of "personal responsibility" you're referring to only apply to poor people?

Everyone contributed to crashing the economy, from those non-bank financial insitiutions pushing the bad loans through and dumping them onto wall street so they could turn around and lend more, the people buying several homes with NINJA loans to flip so they could make bank, to retailers selling like mad on credit to people who were buying those homes to fill those houses up.

Everyone was making money hand over fist. And everyone suffered. Unfortunately the ultra rich not suffer like the rest of us. But it doesn't mean they broke laws. Even if the populous would like to run around with pitch forks and torches.

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
He lost because he campaigned on "hope and change" and delivered none of it

Unless you wanted the change to be the economy not melting down, marriage equality, insurance coverage for the 92% and hope for the rest (which did get stomped out). He even went as far as start doing executive orders to help people out when the Republicans halted everything he was doing.

Padawanbater2 · Mar 3, 2020

hanimmal said:
Everyone contributed to crashing the economy, from those non-bank financial insitiutions pushing the bad loans through and dumping them onto wall street so they could turn around and lend more, the people buying several homes with NINJA loans to flip so they could make bank, to retailers selling like mad on credit to people who were buying those homes to fill those houses up.

Everyone was making money hand over fist. And everyone suffered. Unfortunately the ultra rich not suffer like the rest of us. But it doesn't mean they broke laws. Even if the populous would like to run around with pitch forks and torches.

Executives received million dollar golden parachute packages for crashing the global economy while thousands of poor people became homeless after losing their house. Defending banks isn't going to win any votes.

Padawanbater2 · Mar 3, 2020

hanimmal said:
Unless you wanted the change to be the economy not melting down, marriage equality, insurance coverage for the 92% and hope for the rest (which did get stomped out). He even went as far as start doing executive orders to help people out when the Republicans halted everything he was doing.

What were the results of the 2010 midterms?

rkymtnman · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Do you mean the kind of "personal responsibility" the executives at the banks had when they crashed the global economy, or does the kind of "personal responsibility" you're referring to only apply to poor people?

i'll let you pick. do you believe in personal resposibilty or not? somebody got a free education and wants to file bankruptcy to not pay for it?

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Executives received million dollar golden parachute packages for crashing the global economy while thousands of poor people became homeless after losing their house. Defending banks isn't going to win any votes.

Im not running for office. And you really should learn that 'Banks' were not the ones making those loans, they were financial institutions like 'quicken loans', I know actually understanding this stuff is not your bag, but you just come off as ignorant. And while it might not be sexy or edgy to defend our economy and the reality of what happened, lies and propaganda that you spew shouldn't just be let alone because it is an annoyingly complex situation that occurred in 2008.

rkymtnman · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
He lost because he campaigned on "hope and change" and delivered none of it

He lost because he campaigned on free shit for everybody and i'm gonna die from another heart attack so i wont' have to worry about paying for it.

hanimmal · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
What were the results of the 2010 midterms?

Republicans won taking over the House and Senate. That is not on Obama, no matter how hard you try to make it, unless it is just for the fact he is black and white people lost their minds and swallowed everything liars like yourself pushed online.

rkymtnman · Mar 3, 2020

hanimmal said:
Republicans won taking over the House and Senate. That is not on Obama, no matter how hard you try to make it, unless it is just for the fact he is black and white people lost their minds and swallowed everything liars like yourself pushed online.

and let's face it, just about every midterms go against the POTUS. captain pada obvious to the rescue.

DIY-HP-LED · Mar 3, 2020

Padawanbater2 said:
Pretending to be progressive wins votes, governing like a moderate loses them. That's why Biden won't win, progressives don't buy his pretending to be progressive act when his history in congress shows otherwise. Obama successfully pulled it off, then lost right away when he buckled under establishment/corporate pressure

If Bernie says Joe won fair and square, you'll learn to love old Joe, if Bloomberg wins a contested convention and Bernie says he cheated, then bitch, but vote against Trump anyway, Congress will tame Bloomberg or Bernie. I don't think Bloomberg will do too well today, we'll soon see. Bernie will endorse Bloomberg to get rid of Trump and if he does, vote for him.

schuylaar · Mar 3, 2020

Jimdamick said:
I've just smoked a bowl of good herb & this song came too mind thinking about the DNC.

Fucking sad, right?

At least in my mind it is

That they're going to have to give up their tax-free lifestyle?

Super Tuesday

Who's it gonna be?

Biden

Sanders

Trump

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