Tap water and the Soil Food Web, interesting video.
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Flaming Pie
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing!
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Semper.Fi
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Hmmmmmmmm here's a further bit of info . . . .
I leave my water out with airstones bubbling, a water pump agitating and a heater keeping it at 22c, top it up with fresh as it gets depleted daily; I've had strains that, towards the end of flowering, had a strange necrosis to the veins; I know of no other element that has this effect, ime, so I left it down to genetics . . . . . are there any elements that produce, literally, white veins on leaves when deficient? Wish I'd taken a piccy of it now . . . . .darn!
Thoughts please professors of growth . . . .
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So if we leave our water out to remove all the chlorine, is it going to be detrimental to our plants?? discuss . . .
I leave my water out with airstones bubbling, a water pump agitating and a heater keeping it at 22c, top it up with fresh as it gets depleted daily; I've had strains that, towards the end of flowering, had a strange necrosis to the veins; I know of no other element that has this effect, ime, so I left it down to genetics . . . . . are there any elements that produce, literally, white veins on leaves when deficient? Wish I'd taken a piccy of it now . . . . .darn!
Thoughts please professors of growth . . . .
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qwizoking
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It is a minor plant nutrient, most will never realize they are lacking like silicon or maybe copper etc. Often synthetic nutrients have chlorinated ingredients but they should be avoided...most of these nutes required in such small amounts can be toxic like any nute but that doesnt mean it isnt beneficial
Where it can have the biggest impact is germing. The small amounts of chlorine will really help to prevent mold growth
Where it can have the biggest impact is germing. The small amounts of chlorine will really help to prevent mold growth
Semper.Fi
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Agreed, the only time I do actually use fresh tap . . . . helps prevent algae forming too. 
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GASP!!!!! This is the organics section . . . .!!!!! lol
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Semper.Fi
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Do you think bubbling for 24 / 48hrs / contanstantly actually removes all traces of chlorine? Do you think there are parts of it that stay behind?? Or does it all literally gas off???
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Do you think bubbling for 24 / 48hrs / contanstantly actually removes all traces of chlorine? Do you think there are parts of it that stay behind?? Or does it all literally gas off???
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qwizoking
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While i havent seen any tests confirming
It has a boiling point around -30°
It is able to move freely in the fluid water and realistically most will be gone in a few minutes. You can fill a glass of water from your tap, here it taste pretty terrible, wait a few minutes, blow away a saturation layer in the top of the cup...sip...chlorine is not detectable.. The chlorine is only intended to protect during transport, where pressure of the system keeps the chlorine in solution, like co2 in your soda (co2 sticks longer).
Butane, a boiling point between 10 and 30° can be purged within 30 minutes, and its much harder to purge bho with its high iodine number
But yea i mean there will be traces. And not everyone has the same "chlorine" and yiu might do better sitting an open container in the sun for an hour or 2 to remove everything
It has a boiling point around -30°
It is able to move freely in the fluid water and realistically most will be gone in a few minutes. You can fill a glass of water from your tap, here it taste pretty terrible, wait a few minutes, blow away a saturation layer in the top of the cup...sip...chlorine is not detectable.. The chlorine is only intended to protect during transport, where pressure of the system keeps the chlorine in solution, like co2 in your soda (co2 sticks longer).
Butane, a boiling point between 10 and 30° can be purged within 30 minutes, and its much harder to purge bho with its high iodine number
But yea i mean there will be traces. And not everyone has the same "chlorine" and yiu might do better sitting an open container in the sun for an hour or 2 to remove everything
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Semper.Fi
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Yeah ok right, great info, awesome! LLLLLLOVE RUI
Ok so do Chlorine and Chloramine both smell the same? I'm pretty sure our municipal uses Chlorine, it smells that way once you've got 10 or so gal sitting around . . . . ?
No idea what happens Chloramine left out for 2 hours in the sun, I would love to have that data in my arsenal
Cheers already guys . . . .
Ok so do Chlorine and Chloramine both smell the same? I'm pretty sure our municipal uses Chlorine, it smells that way once you've got 10 or so gal sitting around . . . . ?
No idea what happens Chloramine left out for 2 hours in the sun, I would love to have that data in my arsenal
Cheers already guys . . . .
Semper.Fi
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Innnnteresting!!! No residuals left after the drops are added? Wonder where it goes or what happens to it . . .
My side of the discussion is, we do NOT want to get rid of every trace of Cl coz our beloved plants rely on traces of it for essential processes . . . .
I guess I want a chemist grower to sign up to RUI to tell me actual ppm of Cl Cannabis requires to thrive . . . .lol dont want much eh . . . . lol
My side of the discussion is, we do NOT want to get rid of every trace of Cl coz our beloved plants rely on traces of it for essential processes . . . .
I guess I want a chemist grower to sign up to RUI to tell me actual ppm of Cl Cannabis requires to thrive . . . .lol dont want much eh . . . . lol
It's my understanding that chloramine doesn't evaporate out of water unlike chlorine.
I've been adding drops I get from the local pet shop used for aquarium water. Neutralizes both chlorine and chloramine...
sworth
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No, there's no residuals left in the water. I figure if it's safe enough for fish... I still have it bubbling away in a bucket though, because I don't know if it's chlorine or chloramine they put in the water here. Although chloramine isn't added to water as such, they add ammonia to already chlorinated water which turns chlorine to chloramine.
Where's a biochemist when we need one?
Where's a biochemist when we need one?
Semper.Fi
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Now that's a fair and simple bit of thinking . . . . . thanks.
No, there's no residuals left in the water. I figure if it's safe enough for fish... I still have it bubbling away in a bucket though, because I don't know if it's chlorine or chloramine they put in the water here. Although chloramine isn't added to water as such, they add ammonia to already chlorinated water which turns chlorine to chloramine.
Where's a biochemist when we need one?
Semper.Fi
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qwizoking
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The people that mention chlorine generally are the ones that talk about bacteria constantly
Which is why rrog came into the thread lol
Though a good portion of those organic extremists will tell you flushing isnt required in organic (logic is false, but they are right)
Which is why rrog came into the thread lol
Though a good portion of those organic extremists will tell you flushing isnt required in organic (logic is false, but they are right)