Tea ingredients

meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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wow I dont see anyone answering a part of the OPs question... WHY are teas useful.. the tea itself does not add NPK to the soil what it does is fuel the refuel the microherd in your soil to help with bio availability of organic compounds containing the NPK that the plant takes up... from all I have read and learned this is a very very misunderstood process... people think they can brew up some rotten bananas and give their plants a boost.. that is not really how it works
 
DonnyBrasc0

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Okay a Good way of Understanding nutes is like this. So some nutes need to be broken down by soil life first then they are avaiable for uptake. Others are already broken down and ready for plant uptake. I been doing alot of studdying on decomposition and how it works within soil too.... and alot of fertalizers that are required to be broken down by soil life call for a re applying every two weeks. I also studied animal decomposition and human it takes about a good 2 weeks to get down to bone on some parts. Mostly soft flesh n head. Pretty sure a small fish or animal can go in 2 weeks.

So if your nutes are already broken down and are synthetic you should be good and not really need a tea cuz the work is already done for you but if you run organic or dry fertalizers that need breaking down compost teas really help kick off the feeding storm. The beneficials get in there and start eating then what they leave behind gets fed to your plant. If your soils gets to dry bacteria can die. Too wet can promote bad bacteria in soil. A compost tea helps keep everything in order when it comes to soil. If the beneficials died the tea can replenish the soil...if theres alot of beneficials the tea will help make the army of good guys stronger...They can do good for coco too.
 
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meangreengrowinmachine

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DonnyBrasc0 said:
Okay a Good way of Understanding nutes is like this. So some nutes need to be broken down my soil life first then they are avaiable for uptake. Others are already broken down and ready for plant uptake. I been doing alot of studdying on decomposition and how it works within soil too.... and alot of fertalizers that are required to be broken down by soil life call for a re applying every two weeks. I also studied animal decomposition and human it takes about a good 2 weeks to get down to bone on some parts. Mostly soft flesh n head. Pretty sure a small fish or animal can go in 2 weeks.

So if your nutes are already broken down and are synthetic you should be good and not really need a tea cuz the work is already done for you but if you run organic or dry fertalizers that need breaking down compost teas really help kick off the feeding storm. The beneficials get in there and start eating then what they leave behind gets fed to your plant. If your soils gets to dry bacteria can die. Too wet can promote bad bacteria in soil. A compost tea helps keep everything in order when it comes to soil. If the beneficials died the tea can replenish the soil...if theres alot of beneficials the tea will help make the army of good guys stronger...They can do good for coco too.
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yep pretty much this
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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DonnyBrasc0 said:
Okay a Good way of Understanding nutes is like this. So some nutes need to be broken down my soil life first then they are avaiable for uptake. Others are already broken down and ready for plant uptake. I been doing alot of studdying on decomposition and how it works within soil too.... and alot of fertalizers that are required to be broken down by soil life call for a re applying every two weeks. I also studied animal decomposition and human it takes about a good 2 weeks to get down to bone on some parts. Mostly soft flesh n head. Pretty sure a small fish or animal can go in 2 weeks.

So if your nutes are already broken down and are synthetic you should be good and not really need a tea cuz the work is already done for you but if you run organic or dry fertalizers that need breaking down compost teas really help kick off the feeding storm. The beneficials get in there and start eating then what they leave behind gets fed to your plant. If your soils gets to dry bacteria can die. Too wet can promote bad bacteria in soil. A compost tea helps keep everything in order when it comes to soil. If the beneficials died the tea can replenish the soil...if theres alot of beneficials the tea will help make the army of good guys stronger...They can do good for coco too.
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keep in mind though that you need to be very careful with your PH and such when useing non organic means and watch for salt build ups. these can cause lock outs
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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oh also since I am all organic I have to tell you that nutes are the devil and everyone that uses them grows garbage (not true although i do think a lot of it is snake oil :blsmoke: )
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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charface said:
As a foliar it also creates good guys to fight off bad guys.

Was reading the other day that it makes it hard for pm to take hold.

I don't really remember all the benefits other there were enough that I decided it was worth it to me.
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hey us organic guys it seems will try anything lol. i think it is because growing organics gets too easy.. no need to measure PPMs and nutes and all that BS... gotta tinker with something lol
 
charface

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Listening to the dude grow show
Scotty sells recharge and claims some of those beneficials actually break down the salts.

I think in past we were way more worried about salts automatically wiping our colony out than now.

Im not saying salts do not kill microbes just that they can actually attack salt buildup and be reapplied.
This might be me misunderstanding him though
 
charface

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
hey us organic guys it seems will try anything lol. i think it is because growing organics gets too easy.. no need to measure PPMs and nutes and all that BS... gotta tinker with something lol
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You said a mouthfull.
Indoors i've been using gh
Outdoors is all organic.

Guess which one is a pleasure and which is a giant pain up the asshole.

I use to do organic indoors and must have hit my head because I cant tell ya why I ever changed

After this run Im all organic.
Im burnt out on the bottles
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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charface said:
Listening to the dude grow show
Scotty sells recharge and claims some of those beneficials actually break down the salts.

I think in past we were way more worried about salts automatically wiping our colony out than now.

Im not saying salts do not kill microbes just that they can actually attack salt buildup and be reapplied.
This might be me misunderstanding him though
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but if you are running true organics as in everything is in the soil and you are only using water and teas.... where are the salts coming from? I think when some people say "Organic" they are actually meaning "organic based" like fox farms.. its still a salt based nute.. mid as well just run jacks... and as a background i have about 500 bucks worth of fox farms stuff from when i used to use it.. no idea whay Ill do with it now lol
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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charface said:
You said a mouthfull.
Indoors i've been using gh
Outdoors is all organic.

Guess which one is a pleasure and which is a giant pain up the asshole.

I use to do organic indoors and must have hit my head because I cant tell ya why I ever changed

After this run Im all organic.
Im burnt out on the bottles
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SIPs man they are where it is at for EZ indoor organics... check out the SIP thread. I have never grown easier and you can see the frost that I post on that thread too :joint:
 
DonnyBrasc0

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
SIPs man they are where it is at for EZ indoor organics... check out the SIP thread. I have never grown easier and you can see the frost that I post on that thread too :joint:
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Some guy on youtube claims microbes arent killed off by chlorine either. They create a coating to protect themselves. I been watering with non purged tap water and my plants look the best they ever been. So im inclined to believe him. I stopped letting it sit for 24 hrs
 
meangreengrowinmachine

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DonnyBrasc0 said:
Some guy on youtube claims microbes arent killed off by chlorine either. They create a coating to protect themselves. I been watering with non purged tap water and my plants look the best they ever been. So im inclined to believe him. I stopped letting it sit for 24 hrs
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lol hmm ok... I am lucky enough to have a well so I dont have to worry about that :peace:
 
charface

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Im hearing the same about salts n chlorine. Lets not get crazy, a heavy enough concentration is a problem.

I think what they are learning is that a little salt n chlorine isn't the end of the world.
 
DonnyBrasc0

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charface said:
Im hearing the same about salts n chlorine. Lets not get crazy, a heavy enough concentration is a problem.

I think what they are learning is that a little salt n chlorine isn't the end of the world.
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I definitly agree it might be wiser to purge chlorine if watering in soil .
 
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