Testing InnoLed's 120w horticultural led fixture= Let there be warm white/ high cri light!:)
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PSUAGRO.
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LOL ..........no photoshop here and yes I put on sunglasses in the small-ass roomSo we really should get some awesome photos later on under that 98 CRI. Now I remember this company. Guess it's put up or shut up time for them eh folks? Take care of you eyes P and no Photoshopping, OK ?
LOL No really take care of the eyes and be safe P.
will see brother........not promising greatness, BB is tricky IMO
Got nothing from them about the led specs.........just tid bits
Don't sell your Hans panels yet
I'm not disassembling the fixture, should get an answer about the ma used to power them soon....was thinking about doing a orca film reflector when I got it......but my apathetic attitude could be a hindrance.
....................guess who also makes those leds in that unit???ha........nice digging friendYES the price is very high for the wattage..........Is it justifiable though?? IDK, they stand by their BIG claims(beta-grower feedback) and 80000 hr life...............good luck getting just the quantum chips from them.psuagro... great thread.. see you in action with cob...I wish you the best
...but...
...the price seems to me too high for 120w ......
sell them separate parts? ...for example the cob led or the heatsink... something is not right to my pov...
...looking at things...on the heatsink way... im search in that way.. i see...
...yeah i know its only similar but... ...the price diferences... wow.. maybe my maths its wrong or bad...
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/German-manufacturing-process-150w-led-high-bay-light-led-high-bay-light-150w-150w-high-bay/537069035.html
led cob price + heatsink price + driver price....something is not right in prices to my pov...
..would be nice to know the price of your cob led only... ...example...for replace if melt one...
saludos
This light is UNPROVEN on the internet MJ scene...........It may get the weights/results that they say on other species, but mj wants lots of photons to the canopy for good yields. I'm unbiased and we will find out together.......
stardustsailor
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Tilting horticultural light and method of plant cultivation
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Method and means for enhancing greenhouse lights
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Method and means for improving plant productivity through enhancing insect pollination success in plant cultivation
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http://www.google.com/patents/US20120311925
Many patents around regarding quantum dots and horticulture ,already .
US 20130283683 A1
(...)Fourthly, the combination of using high efficiency LEDs and/or quantum dots(...)
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130283683
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130283683
Method and means for enhancing greenhouse lights
US 20130047503 A1
An illumination device with a semiconductor light emission solution has a wavelength up conversion feature and is suited for plant cultivation in a greenhouse environment. The best mode is considered to be a light device with at least one blue LED (101) with wavelength up conversion binary alloy quantum dots (110, 120, 130, 140, 150, 160) made by colloidal methods that are arranged to produce an emission spectrum similar to photosynthetically active radiation (PAR) spectrum with the blue LEDs. The methods and arrangements allow more precise spectral tuning of the emission spectrum for lights used in plant cultivation. Therefore unexpected improvements in the photomorphogenetic control of plant growth, and further improvements in plant (310, 311) production are realized. The device is especially advantageous for greenhouses that already have legacy LED systems. These LED systems can often just be upgraded by adding the quantum dot array to arrive at the lighting solution.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130047503
Plant illumination device and method for dark growth chambers
An improved method to produce artificial light for plant cultivation, an illumination device with a semiconductor light emission solution and device suited for plant cultivation in a greenhouse and/or dark growth chamber environment are described. The best mode is considered to be a lighting device with LEDs that produces an emission spectrum similar to the photosynthetically active radiation (PAR) spectrum in a dark growth chamber. The methods and arrangements allow more precise spectral tuning of the emission spectrum for lights used in plant (310, 311) cultivation. Therefore unexpected improvements in the photomorphogenetic control of plant growth, and further improvements in plant production, especially in dark growth chambers, such as basements, are realized.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130044474
Quantum Dot LED's to Enhance Growth in Photosynthetic Organisms
US 20130326941 A1
Quantum dot (QD) LEDs useful for plant, algael and photosynthetic bacterial growth applications. The QD LEDs utilizes a solid state LED (typically emitting blue or UV light) as the primary light source and one or more QD elements as a secondary light source that down-converts the primary light. The emission profile of the QD LED can be tuned to correspond to the absorbance spectrum of one or more photosynthetic pigments of the organism.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130326941
Compositions, Devices and Methods for Optimizing Photosynthetically Active Radiation
US 20130187126 A1
Compositions, devices, and methods for optimizing photosynthetically active radiation by utilizing a composition comprising a quantum confinement material having an emission spectra of between 300 nm and 545 nm, and a quantum confinement material having an emission spectra of between 545 nm and 750 nm where the composition may be embedded in and/or coated on one or more transparent surfaces.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130187126
Method and means for improving plant productivity through enhancing insect pollination success in plant cultivation
he invention relates to the cultivation of insect (840) pollinated plants (710, 711) in a greenhouse (700, 701 and 802) environment. In more particular, the invention relates to a lighting device and a method of illumination designed to enhance insect pollination in plants, such as the tomato. The best mode of the invention is considered to be the use of a LED (101, 102, 103 and 104) lighting device having emission peaks (401, 402, 403, 410 and 510) matching the photosynthetic relative absorption peaks of green plants, and the relative reflectance peaks of flowers of plants being cultivated and the relative sensitivity peaks of the insect's vision being used in the pollination. The inventive lighting device and method reduces insect mortality and increases pollination efficiency, photosynthetic growth and thereby increases the productivity of plant cultivation.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20120311925
Many patents around regarding quantum dots and horticulture ,already .
salmone
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ok ok ...the chip cob is rare and expensive...now all its ok to my pov...
guod... thanksss..
sds ...jejeje more sections to my librery...reading for years... thanksss...
saludos.
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stardustsailor
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Where's the panem et circenses ,for the masses ?
People demand updates !
( In case you still do not like the InnoLed light ,I can make a ' humanitarian gesture ' for you ...
I can send you my new 4x CXA 3070 led light for you to have and grow happily and
you can send me this Inno -crap of yours ...No charges ! For Free !
With both shipping costs of trading the lights ,covered by me !
Brother ,I really feel sympathetic for you,buying this crap light !
Ain't good at all .
I can have it gladly !
..... )
Cheers .
People demand updates !
( In case you still do not like the InnoLed light ,I can make a ' humanitarian gesture ' for you ...
I can send you my new 4x CXA 3070 led light for you to have and grow happily and
you can send me this Inno -crap of yours ...No charges ! For Free !
With both shipping costs of trading the lights ,covered by me !
Brother ,I really feel sympathetic for you,buying this crap light !
Ain't good at all .
I can have it gladly !
..... )Cheers .
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
Where's the panem et circenses ,for the masses ?
People demand updates !
( In case you still do not like the InnoLed light ,I can make a ' humanitarian gesture ' for you ...
I can send you my new 4x CXA 3070 led light for you to have and grow happily and
you can send me this Inno -crap of yours ...No charges ! For Free !
With both shipping costs of trading the lights ,covered by me !
Brother ,I really feel sympathetic for you,buying this crap light !
Ain't good at all .
I can have it gladly !
Cheers .
Patience friend only 1/10 has gone north......................I wish I could fast forward 3 months for you
Fran's mom says she would love to go to Greece, but the test must go on................
24/0 light schedule until they all hopefully germinate.......don't want stretch out of the gate, will have plenty of it later with this 3200k spectra.
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stardustsailor
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ohhhhhh !!!!!
I like the baby !
really ...
Look how compact and stocky it is tiny little fat one !
Look the cotyledon's and low stem thickness !
Look the lamina angle ...Straight up ,to the sky ...
Sunlight acclimation ,100% obvious ...The little one ....
You know that ,there's a theory ,about seeds ,pre-sprouting illumination ,blah-blah ...?
That youngster that popped -up ,seems to know a lot for ....Frans mom ...
Or everything might be another day-dream of mine ,eh ? ....
" don't want stretch out of the gate, will have plenty of it later with this 3200k spectra."
Ok ..
Let be some sunlight ,then ....
Keep up the great work ,brother !
Cheers .
I like the baby !
really ...
Look how compact and stocky it is tiny little fat one !
Look the cotyledon's and low stem thickness !
Look the lamina angle ...Straight up ,to the sky ...
Sunlight acclimation ,100% obvious ...The little one ....
You know that ,there's a theory ,about seeds ,pre-sprouting illumination ,blah-blah ...?
That youngster that popped -up ,seems to know a lot for ....Frans mom ...
Or everything might be another day-dream of mine ,eh ? ....
" don't want stretch out of the gate, will have plenty of it later with this 3200k spectra."
Ok ..
Let be some sunlight ,then ....
Keep up the great work ,brother !
Cheers .
Hello Farmers,
Finally I got a chance to catch up on this thread. First off, I like to thank PSUAGRO for reaching out to us and testing out our product. I know there are skepticism around LED's on growing Cannabis. I'm here to clear up any questions that any Farmers may have regarding our product.
The Chinese LED diodes that you see on the market today has brought a bad name for the LED industry over the years in regards to the cannabis industry…until now. There are a couple of huge LED's manufacture that was mention in this thread that uses these Chinese diodes. I'm not here to put down any of those companies. I'm simply just here to educate you on our LED technology and why we're different.
Why are our LED's different you ask?
What I like to see from this test if possible is a side by side comparison of our 100W LED with a 400W HPS in action from start to finished. I'm sure other Farmers would like to see the outcome of the grow as well, good or bad. I like to see the quality and yield from both systems.
We have a 300W and a 500W that was just released. Why did we send the 100W to be tested?
Thanks,
"The InnoLed Boys"
Finally I got a chance to catch up on this thread. First off, I like to thank PSUAGRO for reaching out to us and testing out our product. I know there are skepticism around LED's on growing Cannabis. I'm here to clear up any questions that any Farmers may have regarding our product.
The Chinese LED diodes that you see on the market today has brought a bad name for the LED industry over the years in regards to the cannabis industry…until now. There are a couple of huge LED's manufacture that was mention in this thread that uses these Chinese diodes. I'm not here to put down any of those companies. I'm simply just here to educate you on our LED technology and why we're different.
Why are our LED's different you ask?
- Better heat management
- Our LED chips are made in the USA and we have our own patents on the diodes. We don't use anyone's diodes.
- Our LED's are movie quality with a high CRI of 98!
- Our 100W LED operate at 32V / 3.5A and plug into 120 wall outlet.
What I like to see from this test if possible is a side by side comparison of our 100W LED with a 400W HPS in action from start to finished. I'm sure other Farmers would like to see the outcome of the grow as well, good or bad. I like to see the quality and yield from both systems.
We have a 300W and a 500W that was just released. Why did we send the 100W to be tested?
- Most growers are "closet" or "room" growers. 100W is ideal for this application without drawing too much power or heat and still remain stealth. Thus keeping cost and maintenance at a minimum.
- If you like the outcome of the 100W, imagine what the 300W and 500W can do! The new 500W will be tested in the very near future.
Thanks,
"The InnoLed Boys"
natro.hydro
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Just a heads up to you guys at inno, i believe rollitup lokes to charge companies to participate on this forum since they consider it advertising. Might wanna check on that since i would like to pick your guys' brains as much as anyone else on this board and do not want ya to get in trouble with the head hanchos.
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Thanks for the heads up natro.hydro. We're not looking to advertise our product on this forum by any mean. PSUAGRO was nice enough to contribute his time and effort to this community by testing our LED's. At the end of the day, we just want the end user to make a well informed decision if they decide to go with LED vs your traditional HPS system. With this experiment they can do that.
I'm tired of seeing LED companies making claims in their lab and not do real world testing to actually see if it works before they release it to the market. They're in it to make a quick buck, that's why these companies failed. It actually takes a lot of time to do these real world testing. We're invested in our vision and technology, We want to do it right the first time regardless of how long it take to perfect it. We're very supportive in this community as they are in us in the past.
We love it if you pick our brains, fire away…
I'm tired of seeing LED companies making claims in their lab and not do real world testing to actually see if it works before they release it to the market. They're in it to make a quick buck, that's why these companies failed. It actually takes a lot of time to do these real world testing. We're invested in our vision and technology, We want to do it right the first time regardless of how long it take to perfect it. We're very supportive in this community as they are in us in the past.
We love it if you pick our brains, fire away…
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
You can see all that from a pic "ganja whisperer"??..........lol.......... yeah they seem to like the fixture so farohhhhhh !!!!!
I like the baby !
really ...
Look how compact and stocky it is tiny little fat one !
Look the cotyledon's and low stem thickness !
Look the lamina angle ...Straight up ,to the sky ...
Sunlight acclimation ,100% obvious ...The little one ....
You know that ,there's a theory ,about seeds ,pre-sprouting illumination ,blah-blah ...?
That youngster that popped -up ,seems to know a lot for ....Frans mom ...
Or everything might be another day-dream of mine ,eh ? ....
" don't want stretch out of the gate, will have plenty of it later with this 3200k spectra."
Ok ..
Let be some sunlight ,then ....
Keep up the great work ,brother !
Cheers .
thanks SDS
Tough to say puff.........heat and temps are lower than running the two other panels mentioned together, but it's less watts ............so
The spectra coming out of this innoled is eerily like late afternoon sunlight.........cooler than hps and warmer than philips allstart cmh.
I know you've never messed with an HPS, but I've done start to finish with them and they don't veg "nice" looking plants like mh/cmh/t5/induction........so it will be interesting to see how they do under this led.
Coverage is better than both, but that's with the secondary lens OFF...........It is a bright mofo, but that means little
Thanks for finally stopping by..............YES I wanted the "120w"(32v x 3.5a== 112 watts actual??) fixture for testing in the SUMMER months(my room can't handle much more wattage until fall). I think this fixture is enough to see personally if it lives up to your claims. Granted I'm running this grow fast and NOT for highest yields obviously, still it should show some valuable info to the RIU community.
I knew the light loss to the sides was high without the secondary lens, but damn 25%!........ what's your suggested heights over the canopy with the lens on??? Well I'll put it on again and let RIU see what the difference is in the room in a couple of days.
This is a TEST not advertising...........If it sucks that's not gonna sell them many panels will it ??
.........They know I'm unbiased and will run this like I always do......IF I don't kill the girls first....hasmall update as we wait for the rest of the plants to do something:
.......5/10 have stabilized and have cups off, 3/10 are showing their first set put still need "babying" and 2 are not in good shape IMO (dead?)............still running 24/0 until I confirm the 2 not making it. Blue berry germ rate % gets me againbe safe and happy growing RIU
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Can't wait to hear about your update PSUAGRO. Thanks for putting the lens back on. The girls are too small to tell right now so you're fine. As they get bigger they will need more punch, so the lens is helpful.
*Spazatak - The 100W can cover a 3X3 area. It also depends on how big you veg your ladies out. Some farmers like to finished at 2-2.5' and some prefer to go bigger and finished at 4'. The results varies from grower to grower. There are a lot of factors involve such as strains, feeding regimen, nutes, room environment, and so on...
*Spazatak - The 100W can cover a 3X3 area. It also depends on how big you veg your ladies out. Some farmers like to finished at 2-2.5' and some prefer to go bigger and finished at 4'. The results varies from grower to grower. There are a lot of factors involve such as strains, feeding regimen, nutes, room environment, and so on...
spazatak
Well-Known Member
Sorry I should've made my post clearer... I was meaning ideal tent size...
Im assuming if it replaces a 400W a 3x3ft would be suitable
natro.hydro
Well-Known Member
I know this is an impartial test psu, just remembering what happened to that nice fella splifferous is all... Would hardly say he was advertising but he still got the boot.
Keep it green fellas
Keep it green fellas
PSUAGRO - Good eye, you're correct about the 112W. We round it off to 100W to keep it simple. Let me clear it up. The unit that we've sent you actually have the 100W tungsten chip inside with a 120W driver so it's running at 120W currently.
Yes, light loss without the lens was more or less 25%. The height when I took the measurement was about 12-14" above the plant. For testing purpose I also had the 300W unit as close as 4" to the plant and the leaves did not burn, since the LED's does not generate a lot of heat. IMO ideal height is about 8-10" above your plants. Your ladies will tell you if it's too much for them.
Everything is looking good PSUAGRO! Can't wait to see more pics on the progress.
Yes, light loss without the lens was more or less 25%. The height when I took the measurement was about 12-14" above the plant. For testing purpose I also had the 300W unit as close as 4" to the plant and the leaves did not burn, since the LED's does not generate a lot of heat. IMO ideal height is about 8-10" above your plants. Your ladies will tell you if it's too much for them.
Everything is looking good PSUAGRO! Can't wait to see more pics on the progress.
