Thc Garden

Jozikins

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Lol I am not a fox farm fan but they have a few good products. What did he give ya? The H&G rep did a number on me, he had me on H&G for a year, and I'm still using it now, but I'm slowly phasing to Organic. I like the idea of farming with fungi, and mineral phosphorus kills the fungi. Koolbloom is good shit.
 

youngdog

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He gave me some pamphlets explaning all their products and how to use them. He gave me a 3 pack of their base stuff the big bloom grow big and tiger bloom. they are big enough for me to fertalize my res one time. Im prolly gonna keep them and use them if i run outa my other stuff. they dont look to bad. Im just trying to get more into organic gardening myself. I would rather have more potent and better taste then have more product. yesterday was a doosy. Had my entire family over I didnt get to check on my plants till 40 minuites befor lights out. they was dry as fuck about 5-10 leafs on each was dead or falling off. i had to water my ass off to get it done in time. But on a side note the white rhino is looking amazing. caked with trichs. i thought that ice would be having the most but I was wrong. Im also noticing I have 2 different phenos of the ice one is good looking has alot of buds the other is real leafy and barly any bud. that white siberian is also crap. maybe it will smoke good but it looks real leafy. final moved the light so its not on top of the vks and its closer to the others. For the hydro table. I have them in flowering 2 days not. That hortilux bulb seems to be a deeper red color than the plantmax one I have on the 1000. the plants seem to like it they are growing towards it good. Im hoping that they are all female plants. Its gonna be a bitch to pull out a male when the roots are all tangles. I think i heard some where i could just cut the plant and leave the roots. but I would think that would just rot the rest. the doctor doom bomb went fine I havnt noticed any bugs. dead or alive. yep Im all outa shit to say now.
 

youngdog

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picked up some of the honey hydro carbs by humboldt. For the hydro tank. everything is looking good photos later on today.Every plant in the table is a female. took a few days into flowering befor they showed their sex.
 

youngdog

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These are the photos. Let me know what ya think. sorry there isnt more of the flood table just not much going on.
 

Jozikins

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Damn! This thread should be renamed "Young Dog's 4x4 Bud Jungle" because that tent is packed with more dank bud than I thought possible. You are going to rock the living shit out of your gram per watt yield as long as everything continues on smoothly. I would probably do some LST on the flood table, try and take up all those blank spots of light. Too bad you can't go down to the dispensary with me today and pick up some juveniles. I got ripped off on some seeds and they were all systemic besides one that was from an old batch. So I need to fill 9 spots in my garden today! I was so happy when I only got 4 males out of 14 seeds, but now I'm pissed the fuck off. Luckily there is a dispensary that loves me out there, so they are going to hook me up for free. Love loosely translates to "Owes me money" by the way. lol.

Let me know how the Humboldt Honey goes, I have always wanted to try it out!

Fox Farm is good stuff, but I actually hate the trio pack he gave you, their PK booster trio pack is amazing, their soils are pretty darn good, fantastic soil amendments, and their brand new products like Sledgehammer, Bushmaster, and some sort of micro brew, and my friend uses all that, but uses HEAVY 16 as his A/B formula. Works real well, he also uses that Banana Manna carbohydrate, really does make things taste like bananas.

But believe me, Organics (the trio you got is not organic, just fyi, you probably already knew) can absolutely increase your yield, flavor, and health of your plants. Mineral is a lot easier to obtain these yields with little learning, but if you study up, you will far outperform your mineral product. I have never had the bat shit crazy yields like I do right now with Organics, and it smells soooo much sweeter. No more bitter nutrient taste after a hurried flush. I am cropping a few more plants any day now, all organic, grown in organic soil, and I only had to give them 1 liquid feeding the entire grow. They are small little clones, so I won't get much yield, it was just a "Super Soil" style experiment.

And I understand the feeling all to well of losing sleep to water your plants at the last second because of guests or especially family. I am less scared of my friends finding out that I grow than my family. My parents, my siblings, they all know, they all think it is awesome, and my aunt too. But everyone else in my family would shit bricks, and do something stupid, I am sure. They are a bunch of squares, no joke. My friends would think it is awesome and probably hit me up for weed more, but I do not want them opening their mouths, so I only tell them if I'm 95% sure I could get them growing with me, and it's been working so far. Lol. I have 2 close friends that are great growers, and then I have 2 good friends that are pretty crappy at it, actually. But I never really give them advise, just clones. I would give them advise, but they can't afford any of the stuff they need, so it's useless. Well, 1 of the crappy growers is decent actually, he at least has separate bloom and veg and uses HPS in bloom actually. Even if it's a weak 250, it can still make some danky buds.
 

youngdog

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Thanks. I thought about grabing some clones and throwing them in. prolly wouldnt hurt to put them into flower right away. The last grow in this table the plants got so bushy it covered everything. I think that will happen again this time. only off by 1 plant from last time. I wish someone owed me. sure will I dont mind it so far its easy to work with. I accualy love bannas so i might look into that. Im not all that concerned with yeild as much as qaulity. I want good taste good smelling potent. once i get that down ill work on the yeilds. but your right this tent is packed with buds. Organic is the way im going. I will have to wait till the next grow since i have all my shit now. it all worked out good with the watering. thank god i was giving straight water cause if i wouldve had to mix fertalizers i wouldnt have made it. I was watering the last plant when the lights went out. had to turn on the dehumidifer today my rh is been around 70 all week. 3 hours with the dehumid. on its down to 55. I just hope this thing dont rob my res of to much water. Thats shitty about your seeds. 10 females outa 14 is very good. Good luck with the new clones.
 

youngdog

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after a little more research I decided to set my dehumidifier on 35% humidity seting. since 35-45% in flowering seems to be universal. Had it set on 45%and it was taking my tents to 55% so I figured 35% will take them to 45% maybe lower over time.
 

Jozikins

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It was actually 9 out of 13 seedlings, I miscounted. Yeah, my seed hook here was the shit until he sold the last batch and disappeared. He gave us all sorts of BS stories of why he isn't doing the White Berry, Grape Krush, or Larry's OG anymore, gave us a bunch of BS about why it's so cheap this time and why were getting so many... I was dumb for falling for it, but he was a bastard for tricking us! I get them through my old room mate and this guy was his caregiver. But not much of a caregiver, he didn't care at all. If I knew where he was you better believe I would get my moneys worth out of his tires. Leave that shit on blocks. He cost me 130 in seeds, and probably the same in nutrients, light, grow medium, and easily twice as much in wasted time. My time is valuable!

But enough of my bitching, shit happens, I am just very very fortunate to be knee deep in the medical cannabis community. And because of that, I will be happy and shut my mouf!

By the way, it is totally fine to give your plants plain water twice a week. You should pH it, but I don't like to pH anything without a little bit of something in the water, or else your pH goes totally screwy inside of your pots! Put a little B1 and Humboldt Honey in there, and then pH it, Or CalMag and Humboldt Honey. I usually use ca/mg, silica, and a carbohydrate, or I use B1 and Silica and a Carbohydrate. Because ca/mg is very important but has lots of N in it, 2-0-0. But B1 is either a nice 1-1-1 or a 0-2-0, sometimes it's different, but that is the most common. Silica is 0-0-2 which I love, because potassium is hard to come by in organics. I do not use organic ca/mg, but soon I will be dropping the ca/mg, I get plenty of Ca from EWC, and I can easily get Magnesium from Epsom salts, until I find a better source of magnesium. I think fish fertilizers contain magnesium, I don't remember, I will have to look into it before I get much further into flower.

But by all means, stick with your fertilizer until it is all gone before switching to organics. Having hundreds of dollars in fertilizer laying around depresses the fuck out of me. So I'm using that all on my new 4x4 tester tent. Can't wait to load it up with Sour Diesel, Jedi Kush, and White Castle. I might throw in either Dairy Queen or Chernobyl as well, I'm dying to try the TGA Subcool shit, I love his literature so much, and he is a nice dude! Nice dudes are hard to come by in the inner circle of cannabis cultivators.

As far as flavor goes, organics takes the cake. Genetics and the love you give your plants will determine most of the potency. As long as we have all 16 elements in our plants, we are fine. 14 to survive, 16 to strive. Someone on RIU once told me that, if I remembered who it was I would give them a shout out and shoot them some more rep.

Definitely keep that dehumidifier sucking up the air! Topping off your reservoir isn't nearly as bad as the devastating powdery mildew will be. I would spray down your rooms before your lights come on next time with some sort of fungicide. Just to be safe. Keep your RH at 40-50%! I like mine at 42-45%, 40% if I'm scared of mold, going below that will only stress your plants, and allow the mold to take a stronger hold and possibly go systemic. Mildew does not need wet conditions to form, it is just much more likely. If it's already in the air will form on dry foliage as well.
 

Jozikins

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after a little more research I decided to set my dehumidifier on 35% humidity seting. since 35-45% in flowering seems to be universal. Had it set on 45%and it was taking my tents to 55% so I figured 35% will take them to 45% maybe lower over time.
Personally, I've noticed stress in my plants from that, but not a lot. I am just scared of stressing my plants when mold could be about. But it is important to see how low you can go before stressing your plants, so you know their limits. I need a dehumidifier. Normally all my humidity is perfect naturally, but in these smaller tents I notice it gets a lot more humid a lot faster, and even creates humidity outside the tent. Luckily the only thing in tents right now is Blue Dream, which is frequently blowing my mind with it's resistance to all disease and pests! Fungus Gnats have been my only worry so far, and they are easily controlled with Diatomacious Earth. Speaking of which, I need more neem and azamax.

Looking good bro....^^^thats a real scumbag that ripped u off sorry bout that bro....
Thanks dude. He is a real scumfuck. No doubt about that.
 

youngdog

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Gotcha. I ussualy add ph'd water every other watering. I seem to be watering every 3-4 days. I do need to add some magical since ive noticed a calcium def. on my white rhino. I will add that and the honey with my plain water. I was planing to keep using molasses in my soil but to hell with it this honey is really decent stuff. much less of a mess.. That is fucked that guy ripped you. I alway look at it like when they do that shit one day it will catch up to them and they will regret doing bad shit to people. the tents for some reason let humidity build easy. since pm killed me last time Im being catious of it this round.
 

Jozikins

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I hate PM. Fuck PM. PM fucked up my SFV crop last night 2 days before harvest, I can only pray it heals, even with a major branch that was broken in the inspection. Pisses me off! And you better believe that guy has it coming to him, tires and radio; gone.

Glad my advise is helping though. Sometimes with all my amazing carbs that I bought, I still like to use molasses in soil every now and then. Whenever I think they could use a more complex or raw carbohydrate formula with a little bit more of micro life already inside of it, I like to use molasses. Maybe only 3-4 times a grow, but it is good stuff. Especially black strap. I can never get enough sulfur, and it's tough finding Potassium in organics, so I love it for that reason too, not to mention it has a great source of Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron. By the way, K, Ca, Mg, Fe are all very very very important during your flush, so using black strap molasses would be a good idea during flush. I swear you can't taste those nutrients in it, just stop using it the last 3-4 days, but even if you didn't I don't think it would make a difference in flavor, I just know that I stop at 3-4 days before chop, and then I give to more plain water flushes.

K, ca, and mg are all connected between different uptakers from the plants. If you are deficient on 1 of those 3, you are deficient on all of those 3.

Basically what I am saying is stick with the honey, but try molasses during flush, or as a weekly or biweekly feeding.
 

youngdog

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sweet. I will run the honey from now on and maybe ill run the straight molasses during the last flush. Yeah Im geting some def. atm. Im dealing with them. That branch will prolly heal fine. Might prolong your harvest date thou. I might be geting a naner in one of my ice plants on the top bud. I pulled the plant did a full inspection and nothing anywhere else. I will have to see it could just be new bud formation. tiny and light green poking out. Im gonna pluck it out and pray for no more new ones if it is.
 

DinafemHashPlant

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Hows it going fellas...I'm about to cut off like 10-15 tops after pinching the main stem the lower branches shot right up to the light and now they're burning becuz they r literally touching my cooltube room is 80...But thats off 4 plants so i doubt ill stress them out to bad..Im 2 weeks into budding which sucks becuz nugs r forming and i have to cut them off...
 

youngdog

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Cool sounds like things are going good for you. I found out that wasnt a nanner it opened up this morning and has white hairs coming out of it. Never seen growth like that right on top of the buds. Not gonna be watering today since the soil is still pretty moist prolly tomorrow. I wanna water them with the magical but I dont wanna over water so Im waiting. I definetly dont wanna spray it on the buds. Man that fruit auto is starting to stink to the high heavens. smells like sweet skunk very strong skunk odor. Open up that jar and the whole room stinks like skunk for an hour. i bet its gonna have a great taste to. Im leting a qaurter of that plant cure for a month Im testing no cure 2 week cure and 1 month cure. we will see how good curing is. fuck it i watered today. I figured its better to water early once then to let them go another day with a def. added that koolbloom dry today. cut my liquid koolbloom in half and added the dry. Im told it increases the trichs big time.
 

DinafemHashPlant

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Good to hear no nanners...More trichs is always a good thing...I have an overwatering problem 2 bro, but i get away withit in the hempy buckets every 2 days a 2liter...Some dont drink as fast so i lift them first to see if they need anything before giving it to them...Man i cant wait to get out ur way....Glad to hear the fruit is some good stuff..Well have a good 1 bro's..
 

DinafemHashPlant

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Very nice bro....Im starting to show some trichs now but the buds r still really small...Been flowering for 3 weeks but the first 1.5-2 weeks it was in transition period..So about 8-10 days have been showing pistils and forming nugs so im just getting really impatient i think..lol..Not one of my best quilites(patience)...
 

youngdog

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It will come. plants are doing great today I thought they might be a little bummed since i raised the ph of my feeding to 6.5 since the dry kool blooms droped it to 5.7 I ussualy run 6 even. and also ran my ussual regimin but added dry koolbloom and magical and honey. only thing i cut back was the liquid kool bloom.
 

DinafemHashPlant

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Yeah they r coming along pretty nice....I need a ph meter i only have the drops it works but u dont know for sure what it is...My light got turned off 20 minutes late this morning...Oh well...So what r u smoking on today fellas??Im gonna be smoking leaf and and some nug as its almost gone and i still have 6-7 weeks left on my girls it sucks...I think unless its way above 7.0ph or below 5ph i dont think the plants r that picky or atleast its that way with my hempy buckets...Looks like u got ur feeding down bro...
 
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