the 2020 democratic candidate (and VP)

2020?

  • kamala harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • cory booker

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • julian castro

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • john hickenlooper

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • tim ryan

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • elizabeth warren

    Votes: 11 61.1%

  • sherrod brown

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • kirsten gillibrand

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • tim kaine

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • chris murphy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    18
Fogdog said:
And seven million voters -- most with college education -- did not come to the polls because they didn't see Clinton as their representative. It was Clinton's vote to lose and lose it she did. By the time the primary wound down, there was a cadre of young liberals who hated Clinton. Not just for her establishment reputation but the DNC fuck up was simply awful. She lost the millenial vote. Trump got no support from the young liberals.

I supported Clinton and thought she would be a good president. I can also see why other liberals would want to argue with that statement.
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127- million votes in 2012, 128+ million in 2016. turnouts were up in all but a handful of states.
 
UncleBuck said:
127- million votes in 2012, 128+ million in 2016. turnouts were up in all but a handful of states.
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2 million threw away votes to Stein, while Clinton drew 5 million fewer votes than Obama did in 2012. Admit its sketchy but that's where I came up with 7 million not voting rather than vote for Clinton.
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http://www.npr.org/2016/11/12/501848636/7-reasons-donald-trump-won-the-presidential-election
 
Fogdog said:
Now, now, let's not be wishing for Sessions getting his way with MJ.:spew:
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Not wishing for it, but you know it's going to happen. One way or another the little is going to get screwed. Too much money on the table for corporate America to leave it alone.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Harris is an establishment shill

Although charismatic, Booker leans that way

You asked me who I supported, I don't support anybody infected by the establishment. So it looks like we have work to do.
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What wrong with Bernie? He'll only be 79, that's nothing look to our Supremes ages.
 
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Fogdog said:
London and Buck pick their subjects for derision via body shaming based upon other differences. It's not as if they are doing this to every woman as a real sexist such as Trump would do. So, not the same thing. I dive into that end of the pool sometimes myself so I can't claim purity either.

In the case of London's and UB's fat and slut shaming of @Flaming Pie , the verbal ripostes by them are justified because Pie supports truly vile sexist and racist politicians and by doing so supports their vile sexist policies. To me, the turnabout is fair, Pie disputes politically correct culture and says false, vile things about Muslims and Democrats, they go after her physical, sexual and mental failings which by Pie's own words are all true.

I don't understand London's attitude towards @schuylaar and I don't claim to understand Sky at all.. London and Sky agree on more than they disagree so I look at it all as more of a friendly but rough conversation between two people who know each other.
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@londonfog @SneekyNinja are trolls and doxing is a crime.

When the troll presents itself; you don't feed it.

Poor behavior does not get rewarded.

Trolls need reward to continue said troll..

Only good behavior get rewarded.
 
Jimdamick said:
Howdy Doody probably could run and win against Trump in 2020, because after 4 years of Trumpworld, this country will so fucked up anyone will probably be better.. I vote Warren/Castro.
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Since you're not psychic, what if he's great? What if things go well?

If Obama was as good as you think he is Trump should have a good economy. But Trump has already actually saved jobs, with Carrier and Ford. Obama used to say be saved them and no one knew what he meant. But Trump is actually doing it.

If that trend continues Trump will walk into a second term.
 
schuylaar said:
@londonfog @SneekyNinja are trolls and doxing is a crime.

When the troll presents itself; you don't feed it.

Poor behavior does not get rewarded.

Trolls need reward to continue said troll..

Only good behavior get rewarded.
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how many accounts do you have on RIU ? Have you not been told that multiple accounts are not allowed ? That is what I call a fucking troll
 
londonfog said:
how many accounts do you have on RIU ? Have you not been told that multiple accounts are not allowed ? That is what I call a fucking troll
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Why don't you tell me since you are the worlds authority on everything Schuylaar?

Do you have a secret closet at home with my pics and scraps of info you find on the web?

Fucking creeper..I wonder what your kids would think if they knew their father was a creeper?

How about your wife?
 
schuylaar said:
Why don't you tell me since you are the worlds authority on everything Schuylaar?

Do you have a secret closet at home with my pics and scraps of info you find on the web?

Fucking creeper..I wonder what your kids would think if they knew their father was a creeper?

How about your wife?
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don't flatter yourself. I think you are a overweight lonely chick seeking attention. I get at you ever since you made that fuck comment about black people and the names they wish to name their children. Don't make asinine bigoted comments and you won't have me at you.
I again I ask you how many account do you have on RIU ?
 
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Fogdog said:
It was up to Clinton to convince them to vote for her. Clinton didn't run on a jobs and defense platform and she made a yuuuuuge mistake not recognizing how much harm her cozy ties with Wall Street hurt her with an important group that turned out to be decisive. Why the fuck couldn't she keep her work separate from her personal life? Then it was "Stronger together" and "we aren't deplorable". Admit that she was a crappy candidate and ran a crappy campaign.
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Nope. She already knew she was at disadvantage as soon as Sanders entered the race.

Hence the cheating.

The reason pro Sanders is that he was cheated out of a true contest.

I would seriously be good if it were..but it wasn't.

That's what is disturbing.
 
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