The 30 minute 6 plant aero build

Yup I have seen the grates and yeah they cost some money. I use extra thick heavyu duty netpots.$.60 each with a 25 year warranty on them they have better slots to hold the hydroton with cross mesh for strength and are really quit thick. Yeah the spinners dont work thats why I always said not to use them as they will get tangled and stop misting thats why I show and give a link to the red aero misters no moving parts

Ive always been a dirt man so this is all pretty new to me, wish I would have known about the ehavy duties, guess I should have asked the master lol. Im doign a couple of these so I may try one with the red misters and one with the popup sprinkler heads. This started on a bit of a whim for me to try out aero and has become a fun project, thanks again. Instead of putting a drain in the bottom Im using just a small 76 gph pump that Ive attached to another plain ol 30 gal tub. Ive run a tube to the bottom of my res and one to the bottom of the new tub. That way I can just suck the old nutes out into the extra tub, dump it, mix the new ones and then pump them right back into the system with the same pump turned around. Seemed pretty efficient. Ive got a bit more space to work with then I originally planned, I have mine spaced out with one net pot in each corner and then 1 more smack dab in the middle, if I keep an eye on them and trim if neccesary, do you think I could get away with vegging to about 12-14" and then flowering without the plants or the roots getting to crowded? As I mentioned before I use mostly flourescent so I have side ligthing as well for better penetraion, I usually throw a 75 watter on them for flower in addition to the 8 flor setup. And just FYI they are about a 50/50 IND vs SAT

In these tub setups I never veg bigger then 8 or so inches as they will get crowded.I also reccomen lollipopping them to give more room and air flow.I go heavy indica also to help on size but a sative can work since its gonna be slim and tall.Yeah a second res is agreat addition if room isnt a factor for sure.The popup sprinklers work well to I was gonna toy with using 4 of them in a larger setup for 12 plants and see how it does for entire grow.I use the pop ups on single buckets and cloners and they work nice.Glad the thread gave a little inspiration to try something new.For me ever since going hydro and aero I will never be a soil grower again except an occasional dirt grow to remind why I dont do them anymore lol

thanks again, Ive actually been using a few of these on my patio for veggies, Im learning more that way and my soil sucks where Im at anyway, Ive never seen peppers and tomoatoes grow so damn fast lol. now that Im preparing the space I have available to me indoors I have some leakage issues. I know you had said you where starting to use the locktop tubs to help cut down on leaks, Im wondering if you have found anything else that works well. Ive tried duct tape and all that, it just only last for so long. I was thinking some kind of a rubber gasket or seal would be great I just didnt know what to use, have you tried anything like this? I think a nice fat rubber seal and a few clamps would make things air tight. Ill let you know if I discover anything, Im going to go looks around here shortly.

you realllly put alot of hard work in this. i see your posts all around this forum and it seems youre the one to talk to around her.
question, whats the brand of pump you used for the model you made?

-thanks

Def. ask fletch but I found mine at lowes for about 35 bucks I think they where, they have awhole selection for outdoor ponds, I got the 270 gph I believe, it works very well. I know you can find them a little cheaper, but Lowes will take things back fi they break and its convenient

So hows this for fucking irony, so after my last post I go for a drive to geuss where... Lowes, found a fwe things I needed and on my way back I decide to go for a little joy ride and smoke one, as Im cruising around some neighborhood I wasnt o familiar with ALL OF A SUDDEN i SEE 5 MILLION COP CARS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. And what were they doing on a SUNDAY afternoon, carrying grow lights etc out of someones house! Un-freakin-believable! Im on my way back with most of the rest of what I need to do my first grow in years and by complete random bullshit chance I ride right by someone else getting busted, This just isnt cool, I dont even need to grow anymore, I just really wanted to, but being paranoid to begin with, this may just put the nix on the whole thing for the time being, I wasnt even gonna use my own pad but I think I may just write it off all together at least for a long long while when maybe it is my own pad and theres no one else involved. For the time being my tomatoes are kickin ass so I appreciate the help, I iwll be on here askin more questions Im sure if I cahnge my mind, I at least need to think it over some more, DAMN.
It is pretty freakin sweet that you are tryin to help all of us out though and I I want you to know I appreciate it fletch, they really need to get over this whole pot thing and worry about real fucking crime, small town cops suck!!

I like this system. Looks kind of like the one I want to start with.

Thanks

jjar7266

Hi agin Fletch,
Sory i havn't popped in earlier to thank you for the help on the 'Aqua Mist'.To be hounest with ya i'd just about buy one of those from you if you were serious.I still would love to {build}one of those babys with the 32 count top.man,that shit is the start of a nice way i think.I dis how ever see and mark it some where a spinning part that was very high dollar for one!haha so they don't want us to build, they want us to buy at 499.99 usd i suppose it's fair but like you I need to be more Handy.But this dammned osteo, and fibromialgea[?],addhd,no knee cartlage thanks to the army...The mads they give me make me sik as hell,but not with me own but it's harder outside than it was,so Thank You Friend,and i will be talking with ya from time to time Your a nice person man and take care,Dr.KleenGenes{Dr.D}

did you got that guy back

Thanks for the compliments and glad Im helping others out there. For these type of smaller setups I use aquavio 480 or thier 305 pumps. I buy bulk but know if you look around they are under $20 shipped by single units .Dr.Kleen Im always serious if you need one and wanna buy one let me know a good number of riu peeps have bought them from me so I can give references if need to my honesty and what you get when buying so if ya ever need one just shoot me a pm...Nothing wrong with a little paranoia its when your completely comfortable and feel safe all the time is when to worry

man your freakin smart

I'm building one of these for 4 plants. I have gone with the following parts, and it seems to be working ok but not optimal:

Ecoplus 265Gph pump
1/2" Vinyl tube
4) L Fittings
3) T Fittings
4) 360 degree micro spinners

All parts from Home Harvest.

Question for advise, how small of a container can I go with? Is 30 Gallon recommended?

Can I use Vinyl pipe or should I go with PVC?

Should I use more than 4 sprayers?

Is this pump big enough?

Great thread FilthyFletch. Really answered a lot of mine questions regarding how to grow.

I just have a few questions if you don't mind answering. Some of these may sound noobish, and there's a reason for that. Because I am a noob.

1. Does this type of system work for the flowering or the vegetative stage? Or can it work for both? If it can work for both, is it recommended?

2. Will there be a point where the 20 gallon tank will become too small and constrict growth, especially if I use it for the vegetative stage?

3. Kind of a general question. If I were to use two of these set ups for both stages in one room, what would you recommend I use to block the lights from the two stages from interfering with each other? Or would this system be quite efficient in that I could place it anywhere in the house, even a closet like you mentioned? You see, I have a room in mind that's quite good and I know I want at least one stage in there. But like I mentioned, if I can place the other in another part of my house that isn't as good as this room but still do okay, then I'll do that and avoid the hassle of light separation and such. I hope this question made sense, haha.

4. As you mentioned in the second page, would I need something different for freshly cut clones until roots have developed and germinated seeds? Or can I place them directly into the 6 plant aero enclosure?

5. This might help me, but do you have a picture of your set up? Do you use the same set up for both plant stages? What are you using to hold the light above?

Any help regarding these questions would be appreciated, thanks man. I might tackle this myself but if I simply don't have the time to, I might have you make me one or two.

which do you prefer to use fletch? The lawn sprinkler or the several misters?

Sorry for the delay been out of town this week.Lets start with ugmjfarmer and work down.You can use vinyl I use pvc as its cheaper stronger and easier to get.I wouldnt use any kind of spinner misters as the roots will hang on them and stop the spinning and block the watering so they dont work well at all.I reccomend a 20 gallon tub for just 4 plants not really any smaller as the roots will fill it quickly and the amount of water plays into how often you have to ph or adjust your ppm. Less water more ph and ppm jumps as plants drink .
Next onto Chowder Heads questions..This system works from start to finish.As with all tub setups you fit the plant size to the space.A 6 plant unit in like a 30-35 gallon res you want to use lollipopping techs and go to flower quickly so plants stay small and you get main colas.I highly reccomend using rooted clones as they can go right to flower when rooted then placed in the setup so you can finish with around8-10 inch plants that you lollipopped and go for like 1-2 main colas from each plant.A 20 gallon tub can do 4 smaller plants all the way through but bigger is much better as the roots will fill the units fast if correct ppm and ph are monitored.Question 3 is a little unclear if you veg and flower you need completely different lights and light times meaning your flower tub will be in 12 hours of uninterupted dark while the veg tub will be on 24 hours of light or 18 if thats what you like.The veg will use your blue mh lighting while the flower will be under hps red/orange lighting so you can have in same room but have to be completely seperated so lights dont bother the 12 hours dark of the flowering unit. These can go anywhere you have room they work well in closets.Now for clones I like to just use my humidity dome and rockwool cubes til the roots form through the cubes then toss them into the aero unit. You can make an aero cloner if you want but to be honest a good cheap humidity dome and rockwool is the best way to go.Last question on this about setup.Im not currently using any tubs as I use a 32 site larger post setup I showed in my journels and then I use 2 4x8 tents with flood tables and 1 4x4 tent with flood tables. I probably will do a 4x8 tent with 5 of these units in it some time soon though so check my grow journels for that in maybe 3-4 months when I have free time to setup a new site.My lights are hung from the tent hanging mounts.The larger aerosetup I have a 8 foots light mover rail with a tandem carrier holding 2 600 watt lioghts that moves back and forth on the rail bolted directly to the cieling.Light yoy yo hangers work well for a tub unit in a closet or area they let you use 2 hooks on the cileing then they have a retractable cords to raise and lower the light to desired hieght,,,And last to Proph question.I like the misters in tubs and my larger post setups but I like the pop up sprinklers in single plant 5 gallon bucket setups or for aero cloner buckets. Hope this helps out..

I think you missed ugmjfarmer's Q about the pump... =]

I have a similar Q... What size pump do you use for a single 5 gal bucket setup... ??

EDIT >>> BTW thanks for this thread and all the good info in here filthy... =]

fuckin fantastic job mate done well lol

On a 5 gallon bucket for a pop up sprinkler a 150 gph pump is plenty strong

Now kindly let me axe you this. How come a person couldnt encaspsulate the pond pump in the crotch section of dirty pany hose as opposed to buying the special bag for 9 bucks? How come you trying to make me spend money? Do you have any affiliation with Osama...Obama or Chelsies Mama perhaps?

Big Wheel

Do you have to use an irrigation manifold to shoot the water into the pot or could the plants live if the pot was sitting in the water? Thanks!