The (Fake) Biden Impeachment Inquiry

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Grassley says he has seen ‘no evidence’ in GOP Biden probe
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that he has seen “no evidence” that President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings.

“I’m going to take the same position that I’ve taken since 2019 that all I can say is there’s some indication, maybe some compromise with China particularly, but I have no evidence of it,” Grassley told CNN’s Manu Raju on Wednesday.

He continued, saying the facts “haven’t taken me to that point where I can say that the president’s guilty of anything.”

The statements come as Hunter Biden appeared at the Capitol Wednesday morning defying the subpoena from House Republicans into the investigation into his business dealings meant to be a probe into his father’s oncoming impeachment inquiry.

Hunter Biden said he was at the Capitol to testify in a public setting, going against the investigator’s request for a closed-door deposition.

Later Wednesday, House Republicans formalized the impeachment inquiry into Biden with a House vote. Lawmakers voted 221-212 along party lines to approve the authorization of the inquiry.

The probe includes deep dives into the personal and business finances of the Biden family members and his son’s failure to pay taxes, currently being investigated by the Justice Department.

Biden has repeatedly denied involvement in his son’s business, and in his speech Wednesday, Hunter Biden reiterated the same sentiment. In a statement released minutes after the House voted, Biden ripped the House GOP for formalizing the inquiry, calling it a “baseless political stunt.”
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Grassley says he has seen ‘no evidence’ of wrongdoing in GOP Biden probe

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that he has seen “no evidence” that President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings. “I’m going to take the same position that I’v…
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GOP lawmaker who backed impeachment inquiry admits he’s seen no evidence of ‘high crime or misdemeanor’
Rep. David Joyce (R-Ohio) said Wednesday that he has yet to see any evidence to support the accusations against President Biden, despite voting to formalize the impeachment inquiry into him earlier that day.

“The process has been abused,” Joyce said in an interview with NewsNation’s Dan Abrams. “It’s meant to take out mentally deficient folks, somebody who’s lost their mind while they’re in office, or somebody who’s a [former Rep. George] Santos, like where they’ve committed in crimes while they’re in office.”

“And you know, I don’t see that yet, but the opportunity for the, for the, operative committees to gather the information and present it in an orderly fashion, so people can make rational decisions is what I base my decision on,” he continued during the appearance on “Dan Abrams Live.”

House Republicans formalized their impeachment inquiry into Biden with a party-line vote Wednesday after months of investigating Biden and his family’s business dealings. When pressed further on what specific crimes Republicans are investigating Biden for, Joyce had no answer.

“And as a former prosecutor, what exactly is the high crime or misdemeanor that’s being investigated?” Abrams asked Joyce.

“Well, yeah, that’s a good point. And I haven’t seen any of that today, but I’m looking forward to the investigative committees… I have three different committees that are all focused on this —OK, put up or shut up. You either have the evidence or you don’t,” Joyce responded.

The House GOP moved to formalize the inquiry partly due to the White House response to document requests last month; the White House argued the House GOP inquiry was unconstitutional due to the process not being formalized.

Joyce noted that one of the reasons he was swayed to vote for the impeachment inquiry was to get the White House to turn over the documents the House committees requested last month.

“But if they want to play the game and go through the process, then obviously we need to go through the process,” he said. “But at the end of the day, this isn’t impeachment. This is just the inquiry. It’s no different than asking for a subpoena.”
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GOP lawmaker who backed impeachment inquiry admits he’s seen no evidence of ‘high crime or misdemeanor’

Rep. Dave Joyce (R-Ohio) said Wednesday that he has yet to see any evidence to support the accusations against President Biden, despite voting to formalize the impeachment inquiry into him earlier …
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As a start...
Grassley says he has seen ‘no evidence’ in GOP Biden probe
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that he has seen “no evidence” that President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings.

“I’m going to take the same position that I’ve taken since 2019 that all I can say is there’s some indication, maybe some compromise with China particularly, but I have no evidence of it,” Grassley told CNN’s Manu Raju on Wednesday.

He continued, saying the facts “haven’t taken me to that point where I can say that the president’s guilty of anything.”

The statements come as Hunter Biden appeared at the Capitol Wednesday morning defying the subpoena from House Republicans into the investigation into his business dealings meant to be a probe into his father’s oncoming impeachment inquiry.

Hunter Biden said he was at the Capitol to testify in a public setting, going against the investigator’s request for a closed-door deposition.

Later Wednesday, House Republicans formalized the impeachment inquiry into Biden with a House vote. Lawmakers voted 221-212 along party lines to approve the authorization of the inquiry.

The probe includes deep dives into the personal and business finances of the Biden family members and his son’s failure to pay taxes, currently being investigated by the Justice Department.

Biden has repeatedly denied involvement in his son’s business, and in his speech Wednesday, Hunter Biden reiterated the same sentiment. In a statement released minutes after the House voted, Biden ripped the House GOP for formalizing the inquiry, calling it a “baseless political stunt.”
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Grassley says he has seen ‘no evidence’ of wrongdoing in GOP Biden probe

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that he has seen “no evidence” that President Biden was involved in his son Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings. “I’m going to take the same position that I’v…
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The whole thing is shameful,to think this is going down to please a shameless clown who boorishly steamrolled all norms,laws,and decorum and was rightfully impeached. Reps. are turning this most serious Congressional tool (to be used sparingly and in EXTREME cases) into the mundane act of ordering a FKN pizza.Go ahead dickheads and impeach a sitting Pres. for loving a son saddled w/many probs. and giving parental support.
 
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DinGrogu said:
Fake? You can't be serious. The whole family is corrupt. Only Democrats think otherwise or at least claim to.
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What point do you think you are trying to make? I would agree that family members of any well connected people, which includes high ranking politicians, have a tendency to cash in on their connections or family name. There are an endless number of people that applies to.

But WTF does that have to do with JOE Biden being impeached?
 
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Fogdog said:
The thread is not about James Biden's impeachment.
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Doesn't matter though for their perception. The fact it's another Biden already satisfies the little requirements DonGrogus have to do another tu quoque.

cannabineer said:
If we’re gonna say guilt by family is a thing, there’s a $2bn boomerang of corruption coming for the back of Jared’s head. Let’s charge il capo for that; no?
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The fact it's in this case a fair response makes it no less ineffective. DonGrogus just see you doing what they do themselves (whataboutism variant of tu quoque) and that leads to yet another tu quoque. Better example in meme in Nug's post above. Effectively, in the eyes of DonGrogus, Biden family is factually at least as corrupt as the Trump family is accused of being and the left is hypocrite for nothing seeing that. And then more so for suggesting they can't point out what you can. What a mess. Insert Spiderman meme. I more than sometimes use Hillary Clinton as an example for how being reasonable and not wrong isn't an effective strategy against magats/Putin/China.
 
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This would not make good fiction because nobody would suspend disbelief long enough to read the first chapter of the story.

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The plot: Putin's Russian spy agency coopts a US informant to plant a false story and is supplied with fake evidence provided by Russian spy agency. Republicans in US Congress are "tipped off" about the existence of the planted false testimony. Even after they are warned that the story is bunk by the FBI and DOJ, they use Congressional oversight powers to force the FBI to turn the one-sided false report over to them and it becomes the pillar of Republican Congresses move to impeach President Biden.

The spy is unmasked and arrested for lying and submitting false testimony in a US document The story is shot full of holes, including full knowlege of his whereabouts when the spy falsely claims in the fake report to have been in Ukraine. (spoiler alert: his handler in the US knows where he was at the time and it wasn't in Ukraine)

All of a sudden the daily reports about the Biden crime family on Fox and Comer's hearings to impeach Biden go silent. The Congressional committee deleted all references to this spy's testimony.

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Guess What Just Disappeared From GOP’s Biden Impeachment Website

It’s not going great for House Republicans after their star Biden impeachment witness was indicted.
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Guess What Just Disappeared From GOP’s Biden Impeachment Website
It’s not going great for House Republicans after their star Biden impeachment witness was indicted.

House Oversight Republicans have yanked a reference to their major flop of an FBI informant on the committee website, where it previously had pride of place as part of the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

Republicans have hinged their Biden investigation on accusations from a supposedly credible but confidential FBI source that Biden and his son Hunter accepted bribes from a Ukrainian oligarch. But the Justice Department has since charged that source, former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov, with making false statements and revealed his accusation may have been Russian disinformation.

This story should be ground shaking in its effect. It WOULD BE if Democrats had done it. Instead, reporting from main stream media is tepid and from right wing outlets:
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Who "tipped off" congress? Was their first name Vladimir? How deep into Congress does the Russian spy network penetrate? Should a special investigator be called to find out the details? Must the DOJ sit on the sidelines until the Russian plot once again succeeds?

Is this the quid pro quo that Trump and his Congressional cronies are served in exchange for denying US funds to help Ukraine defend itself?
 
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Fogdog said:
This would not make good fiction because nobody would suspend disbelief long enough to read the first chapter of the story.

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The plot: Putin's Russian spy agency coopts a US informant to plant a false story and is supplied with fake evidence provided by Russian spy agency. Republicans in US Congress are "tipped off" about the existence of the planted false testimony. Even after they are warned that the story is bunk by the FBI and DOJ, they use Congressional oversight powers to force the FBI to turn the one-sided false report over to them and it becomes the pillar of Republican Congresses move to impeach President Biden.

The spy is unmasked and arrested for lying and submitting false testimony in a US document The story is shot full of holes, including full knowlege of his whereabouts when the spy falsely claims in the fake report to have been in Ukraine. (spoiler alert: his handler in the US knows where he was at the time and it wasn't in Ukraine)

All of a sudden the daily reports about the Biden crime family on Fox and Comer's hearings to impeach Biden go silent. The Congressional committee deleted all references to this spy's testimony.

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newrepublic.com

Guess What Just Disappeared From GOP’s Biden Impeachment Website

It’s not going great for House Republicans after their star Biden impeachment witness was indicted.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

Guess What Just Disappeared From GOP’s Biden Impeachment Website
It’s not going great for House Republicans after their star Biden impeachment witness was indicted.

House Oversight Republicans have yanked a reference to their major flop of an FBI informant on the committee website, where it previously had pride of place as part of the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

Republicans have hinged their Biden investigation on accusations from a supposedly credible but confidential FBI source that Biden and his son Hunter accepted bribes from a Ukrainian oligarch. But the Justice Department has since charged that source, former FBI informant Alexander Smirnov, with making false statements and revealed his accusation may have been Russian disinformation.

This story should be ground shaking in its effect. It WOULD BE if Democrats had done it. Instead, reporting from main stream media is tepid and from right wing outlets:
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Who "tipped off" congress? Was their first name Vladimir? How deep into Congress does the Russian spy network penetrate? Should a special investigator be called to find out the details? Must the DOJ sit on the sidelines until the Russian plot once again succeeds?

Is this the quid pro quo that Trump and his Congressional cronies are served in exchange for denying US funds to help Ukraine defend itself?
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It's groundbreaking villainy on the R party,unprecedented in disregard for country over party,"A R Congressional party that will live in infamy",to pay homage to FDR. A shameless Trump MO of "flood the zone","death by a thousand cuts"," hit the body the legs will fall" that are fatiguing our nation. A mind numbing tactical barrage of lies,litigation,fake news,and invented scandal fitting right into Trumps wheel house. Don't think it was ever anticipated that an arch villain would actually overwhelm the Justice Dept by sheer numbers of legalities,the daily incessant grind of all this shit is like a locust plague.Just keeping in tune w/this endless /dizzying assault on America requires sea sickness pills,can I get them at this CKsuckers on line store w/a capital T stamped in them?
 
Fogdog

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CCGNZ said:
It's groundbreaking villainy on the R party,unprecedented in disregard for country over party,"A R Congressional party that will live in infamy",to pay homage to FDR. A shameless Trump MO of "flood the zone","death by a thousand cuts"," hit the body the legs will fall" that are fatiguing our nation. A mind numbing tactical barrage of lies,litigation,fake news,and invented scandal fitting right into Trumps wheel house. Don't think it was ever anticipated that an arch villain would actually overwhelm the Justice Dept by sheer numbers of legalities,the daily incessant grind of all this shit is like a locust plague.Just keeping in tune w/this endless /dizzying assault on America requires sea sickness pills,can I get them at this CKsuckers on line store w/a capital T stamped in them?
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I think the DOJ and Biden administration developed a strategy that focusses on Trump and appropriately so. Too slow, perhaps, but given the cost of a misstep, better safe than sorry. Trump isn't the mastermind behind this initiative, IMO. He's tied up in litigation and his presidential bid, including extinguishing the last lights of resistance in his own party.

What I didn't see coming was that MAGA, instead of finding a new leader in its own group, would turn to Putin as their alternate for Trump. My guess is that this didn't surprise Merrick Garland and those who are advising him. Catching and arresting that spy seems a bit late though. Maybe it took a year to pull together a case they felt would hold up in court. Or maybe they didn't arrest him so that they could collect information about his contacts inside of Congress. It's rather obvious that Putin's spies were working with GOP Congressional leaders like Tuberville, Greene and Comer. I hope they used this time to collect information about their contacts with Russian spies.

Garland has shown himself to be able to keep the DOJ running fast but slowly. He's frustrating to watch but easy to like his outcomes. In any case, it appears that Russian election interference and collusion with Trump/MAGA/Republicans is underway. This time, I hope the DOJ has a better plan than they had when they fumbled the ball into Trump's hands in 2016.
 
cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
I think the DOJ and Biden administration developed a strategy that focusses on Trump and appropriately so. Too slow, perhaps, but given the cost of a misstep, better safe than sorry. Trump isn't the mastermind behind this initiative, IMO. He's tied up in litigation and his presidential bid, including extinguishing the last lights of resistance in his own party.

What I didn't see coming was that MAGA, instead of finding a new leader in its own group, would turn to Putin as their alternate for Trump. My guess is that this didn't surprise Merrick Garland and those who are advising him. Catching and arresting that spy seems a bit late though. Maybe it took a year to pull together a case they felt would hold up in court. Or maybe they didn't arrest him so that they could collect information about his contacts inside of Congress. It's rather obvious that Putin's spies were working with GOP Congressional leaders like Tuberville, Greene and Comer. I hope they used this time to collect information about their contacts with Russian spies.

Garland has shown himself to be able to keep the DOJ running fast but slowly. He's frustrating to watch but easy to like his outcomes. In any case, it appears that Russian election interference and collusion with Trump/MAGA/Republicans is underway. This time, I hope the DOJ has a better plan than they had when they fumbled the ball into Trump's hands in 2016.
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It would have been nice to have seen Garland more positively slam/disavow Hur’s slander of the President.
 
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