Frenchy my man you misunderstood im not making charas that no way far too small of plants to make it worth while to do that. Im sure when you where in those remote locations doing the hand rub thing there was fields and plants and plants. Im a small time grower man all my stuff is pretty small compared to that kinda stuff. Im saying im gonna do your press way and make ice wax with the plant. No No man no charas for me just ice water. I bet that would have been awsome tho to be making charas in the mountains. Im sure rubbing those plants up like that is an expierence.