The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Sub- we make better water hash today... lets face it, our controlled environments and advanced feeding schedules are quite a bit more advanced than what the Taliban were getting with plants grown under the 150 degree sun.

My main problem with too much moisture is that there is the inherent risk of mold. I have lost an entire batch of temple balls because there was too much moisture.

I enjoy watching hash disappear when heated more than dime sized bubbles. Bubbles just mean that the water rapidly turns to vapor when heated and expands, causing the oils to stick together and form a bubble until the vapors can release. The temps on wet hash burning are approximately 250 degrees hotter and have a much higher heat index. Its that pinch you feel around your adams apple when smoking it. The first hit of SLW is as smooth as a babys butt

Hopefully my friends at Cannabis Aficionado who have access to a Pakistani cut pre 78 coming most certainly from Chitral (place the Taliban is actually squatting) may give me the chance to show you and god bless to have you taste what come from the Hindu Kush.
The Pinot Noir that everybody seems to enjoy is a Blackberry Kush cross with the mentioned Paki.
By the way the Taliban is a very new extremist muslims group that has absolutely nothing to do with hash making however the Hindu Kush is the cradle of the art

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

So Frenchy,
I have a question since most of the methods you employ were based on silk screened kief or some form of screening what is the main difference between that and the water hash we make today?
I assume only water is the answer so as you have seen I have pressed much hash and even hand worked much hash myself.

So if water is the only difference and obviously the quality of water hash is better then its fine to apply the same principles of the old hash masters?

It's very possible based on what your teaching that when I was making worms and such and wallet hash I was more on track to saving my flavor.

I always smoked my hash before it could oxidize badly BTW I always wondered why when it got old I stopped liking it.

Sub

The technique is basically the same, sieving, the water add a very tricky element to the drying process and that is all. I do not think that the ice water hash is better than the dry sieve even if the water seems to bring back some terpenes.
I have done some dry sieve in Morocco and with some Afghani kief in India that were pure cream. The quality if not equal must be very close on the other hand the quantity will show a serious difference.
I learned the ice water sieving process by applying my knowledge of traditional sieving, which is the reason why the way I process is totally different.
Making worms and any type of pressing would help, the resin as a mass is more "resistant" to the "outside world"

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

I would love to share a quote from Laurence Cherniak on mandatory standards for Royal Nepalese Temple Balls
1)No mold inside or out which not easy in a tropical country when there is so much Hash that you can throw the old moldy one like a rotten vegies or fruit and go to make yourself some more
2)A ball must become pliable if held in a closed palm for 20 min, but not be gooey or sticky
3) The exterior of the ball should be very dark, almost black, as a result of the lengthy pressing and polishing process. The exterior granules are more compact and dense. The skin on the ball makes a seal like the wax on a cheese. No air can enter to cause the hashish to decompose. The seal keeps in the resin, odor, flavor, value, everything. Of course you can smoke the skin. It is imperishable.
4) An interior cross section must reveal the hashish to be homogenized, all of exactly the same consistency. Internal cracks show that it is poorly made , really just a few pieces of crude hashish squeezed together.
5) If you have a one or two ounce piece (rarely three), it will not have much scent. If you heat the piece with a match for a few seconds, the aroma will be stronger. However, if the piece is broken open, not cut, the bouquet of a wonderful essence erupts, very fresh and appealing, as the hashish displays its own powerful life force. When we close our eyes and takes a deep and pulling smell, we know that this is the hashish we have all dreamed of.
You must realize that for Cherniak Royal Temple Balls hashish was a very spiritual experience, it is quite an amazing hashish that only masters hashishin could make, the highest quality for centuries on the Asian continent which say a lot.

This is part of the lecture I am working on. For the record Laurence Cherniak is an incredible photograph who has been in all of the hashish Mecca of the world, working with the locals, THE reference. I wish I could use his pictures for my lectures they are absolutely mind blowing even when you have been there.

 

[Wooderson420]

Frenchy, I just Finished reading all 80+ pages and I have to say 100% OUH LA LA!!! BIG TIME!!! Man thanks for the Wealth of Knowledge here in this thread! I have already talked to Stefanie; my Custom Made Frenchy Bags are on Order! I'm so excited for the Experiences that are headed my way! I'll keep you posted on my progress. My new goal is to be a amazing Hash Maker just like Frenchy!

 

[Mc7donald]

• I thought it would be nice to give Frenchy his own place to answer and teach when and if he feels up to it.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  
  
  

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Frenchy, I just Finished reading all 80+ pages and I have to say 100% OUH LA LA!!! BIG TIME!!! Man thanks for the Wealth of Knowledge here in this thread! I have already talked to Stefanie; my Custom Made Frenchy Bags are on Order! I'm so excited for the Experiences that are headed my way! I'll keep you posted on my progress. My new goal is to be a amazing Hash Maker just like Frenchy!

Thanks and please take it a step further and make your goal to be better than me, then only I will be a good teacher

 

[Kalyx]

btw = by the way

The card shot of "set" hash is exactly what I was referring to as lace, and is a very good thing IME. I am running my first blue dream's right now. Can't wait for some BD lace!

myfather, care to elaborate on your drying methods? I am in the dry mtn/desert climate too and any advice helps.

 

[Wooderson420]

Thanks and please take it a step further and make your goal to be better than me, then only I will be a good teacher

No Problem! That is a Deal!

 

[thetrickstergod]

For the hash geeks out there, here is more info on bubbleman's technique and some pretty pictures http://91life.stickyguide.com/blog/the-man-behind-the-bubble ...worth checking out

 

[Shawns]

Hey Frenchy I checked out the site for your shirts but it only has one page witch shows the shirts but doesn't tell you how to order or anything I would love to order one of each please let me know how to order thank and Frenchy your hash speaks for itself I wouldn't waste any more of your time trying to convince somebody that already thinks he knows it all.

 

[myfather]

As far as drying in colorado goes....

After shredding my bubble hash pattys through the lemon zester I spread it out evenly on parchment paper for about 2-3 hours in a cool dark dry environment. It will still feel fairly moist,
then i scrape into a shallow pile (this is where the lace or set takes place). You will see the top of the bubble lace start to very slightly wax up. I feel glass is the best place to cure the hash.
I then store it in a cool dark place in the jar and burp it every 48 hours or so for about 2 weeks. This will allow for that 5% moisture to work itself into the nooks and crannys of your
glass beaded hashs. This will also solidify the bonds between little hash clusters.

By 2 weeks, hopefully you will have gone from 10% moisture to about 5%. And as long as you dont open the jar every day, that 5% is there for good.

I have some 6-8 month old hash made this way that still smells like i just made it yesterday

 

[Shawns]

I dont mean to be a dick but if we wanted to learn the mat rize method we would go to his thread this is the Frenchy Cannoli thread and were here to learn his methods

 

[myfather]

Shawns, thanks for your contribution to this hash discussion.

I for one am enjoying discussions with hash connoisseurs in this thread. I'll go out on a limb and say everyone has learned a little something from this thread.

 

[myfather]

Eric: If you had to lay down the ‘five commandments for making stellar full melt bubble’ to help beginners grasp the essentials, what might they be?
Bubble Man: 1: Well the first commandment will have to be the most crucial, and that’s tostart with the best possible material. You cannot make fullmelt bubble with sub par herb that was grown more for vegetative yields and less for resin quality.
2: Use the right tools. You can make water hash with pantyhose and pickle jars, but using a 8 bag Bubblebag kit and a Bubblenow is going to increase your purity every time. Purity + quality = FMCD (full-melt cold-water)
3: Use tons of ice and don’t over mix. If you don’t have access to ice, a water chiller will work wonders. The cold doesn’t have to come from ice, it just has to be ice cold. Over mixing (especially fresh material) will release water soluble chlorophyl and green out your hash.
4: Once you’ve pulled the hash out, break it up into powder and spread it thin on cardboard. A plate with wax paper is not ideal because it’s not a desiccant. Using that it will only air dry, and we need the help of gravity to suck the hidden moisture out… this is very important.
5: Do not press the hash all excited that you have made some. I leave mine in powder and I suggest this to the masses. Many people press their hash too early before the moisture is completely out, (and most have zero clue when the hash is actually dry). Leaving it in powder form will allow it to dry further as time passes

interesting... I disagree with using cardboard... but i am in colorado and dont need it. Drying on cardboard passes along this sulphur taste taht I cant describe other than sulphur

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Hey Frenchy I checked out the site for your shirts but it only has one page witch shows the shirts but doesn't tell you how to order or anything I would love to order one of each please let me know how to order thank and Frenchy your hash speaks for itself I wouldn't waste any more of your time trying to convince somebody that already thinks he knows it all.

I am working on it, sorry another week or so and it will be on.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

As far as drying in colorado goes....

After shredding my bubble hash pattys through the lemon zester I spread it out evenly on parchment paper for about 2-3 hours in a cool dark dry environment. It will still feel fairly moist,
then i scrape into a shallow pile (this is where the lace or set takes place). You will see the top of the bubble lace start to very slightly wax up. I feel glass is the best place to cure the hash.
I then store it in a cool dark place in the jar and burp it every 48 hours or so for about 2 weeks. This will allow for that 5% moisture to work itself into the nooks and crannys of your
glass beaded hashs. This will also solidify the bonds between little hash clusters.

By 2 weeks, hopefully you will have gone from 10% moisture to about 5%. And as long as you dont open the jar every day, that 5% is there for good.

I have some 6-8 month old hash made this way that still smells like i just made it yesterday

Your whole drying process is crazy short, Colorado is like the Sahara or what?????
Before you do the shredding do you "pre-dry", taking water out by squeezing the bag or with towel.

 

[Thundercat]

I need someplace with less humidity and more hash!

 

[Kalyx]

Danks for the CO dry process. I have a similar method to dry except I have not tried parchment yet. I wick moisture thru a 25 micron (there is a use for 25!) into towels until it is the right consistency to grate. Usually i keep it chilled in the fridge for this process. I have been grating onto non stick trays then flipping the lace over a few times to spread out and dry evenly. I imagine parchment will speed drying up even more. It's important to remove the water as fast as possible. One extra step for water extractions. But you can still dab same day if you start early/ stay up late.

edit: yes frenchy CO (especially mtns) is high and dry, and really hot in low elevations and down south. Not quite sahara but high desert for real. NM is pretty much a desert. The plants do well as its similar to their evolutionary origin. That is why the snow is so good and so deadly! The crystals are light and fluffy, we sink into pure bliss!

 

[thetrickstergod]

Thinking out loud here re: dry sift...is there a way to vacuum trichomes off the flowers...ie shop vac with bubble bags or would that be a disaster?

 

[Kalyx]

Hash production is a labor of love. I do not know of any easy mechanized way to concentrate.