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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
It opens up on my phone. Dunno what to say.

It suggests that the Geese of Meidum, a wonderful fresco from the time between the pyramids of Saqqara and Giza, portrays a now-extinct species.

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Another candidate to bring back from extinction perhaps, a goose is a goose.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
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If DNA can be recovered, then Canada and other existing geese strains can be used to bring them back, the physiological and psychological machinery is the same, so are the genetics, they could breed with existing geese too. Cats are the same, from tigers to house cats, the psychological machinery is the same. Mice however are quite different than rats genetically.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
If DNA can be recovered, then Canada and other existing geese strains can be used to bring them back, the physiological and psychological machinery is the same, so are the genetics, they could breed with existing geese too. Cats are the same, from tigers to house cats, the psychological machinery is the same. Mice however are quite different than rats genetically.
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No. They are distinct species.

All our dogs are bred from the wolf. Similarly, cats derive from a small wild African feline. Tigers are not involved. They do not aggregate as, say, lions do.

Goose is a genus, not a species.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
No. They are distinct species.

All our dogs are bred from the wolf. Similarly, cats derive from a small wild African feline. Tigers are not involved. They do not aggregate as, say, lions do.

Goose is a genus, not a species.
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You don't think a living close relative could be used to revive them?
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
It would be like speculative plans to breed mammoths. The substrate would be a living genome, elephant in this example. It would be a hybrid organism.

So a quiltwork goose would be close but no cigar. I don’t know if any goose mummies are extant.
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Initially it would be, however it could also be more like replacing the eggs in a nest and having the mother raise them as is commonly done. It depends on the quality of the DNA recovered, the closeness of the living analog and the state of the art.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
DIY-HP-LED said:
Initially it would be, however it could also be more like replacing the eggs in a nest and having the mother raise them as is commonly done. It depends on the quality of the DNA recovered, the closeness of the living analog and the state of the art.
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I think the state of the art is currently not there. I see no conceptual barrier. The biotech should catch up, perhaps even in my lifetime. I’d love to see the moa brought back.

 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
I think the state of the art is currently not there. I see no conceptual barrier. The biotech should catch up, perhaps even in my lifetime. I’d love to see the moa brought back.

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It may not be up to those in the west or with western ethics and values, however the technology is getting there, if the DNA is, or can even be synthesized, we've had DNA printers for decades.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
I gotta say, calling it a printer is inaccurate and a bit sales-y. When one can enter a digital file for a sequence of a few hundred deoxynucleotides and then hit Print, we are there.
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A more accurate name would be DNA sequencers and they have been around for a while, however, do a google and see what the latest models that call themselves DNA printers can do, this was a tabletop model.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
DIY-HP-LED said:
A more accurate name would be DNA sequencers and they have been around for a while, however, do a google and see what the latest models that call themselves DNA printers can do, this was a tabletop model.
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My reading suggested DNA sorter. Advanced beyond a sequencer, but not yet a printer. A pretty cool increment.
 
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