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klx

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Last run was 470g I think from memory. I have had much less and much more from as low as 400W and as high as 600W, it is 90% due to the strain. IMO anything above 1g/w for top shelf is fine. If you grow something mediocre can easily get 1.5 g/w+

But I reckon for a 3x3, the yield increase starts to taper above 450W of decent LEDs. It does yield more but not a lot. Still worth it though :hump:
 

Keesje

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What is the actual plant-space your 3 x 3 tray uses?
I mean, if you would use a growing tent, would the plants and foliage fill up a tent 4 x 4?
 

klx

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What is the actual plant-space your 3 x 3 tray uses?
I mean, if you would use a growing tent, would the plants and foliage fill up a tent 4 x 4?
You could easily. I have probably half a foot between the trays and the back wall, about 2 feet between the trays and the side walls and about half a foot between the trays. I like having a bit of room at the sides to work in but you could easily fill it out.
 

klx

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Been puffing on Blim Burn's Girl Scout Cookies the past week and I can see why people like it so much. Really nice smoke. Its minty so I i assume its the thin mint. Not the greatest yielder so it wont get full runs but will find a little corner of a tray so I can keep some head stash:

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Garden Pana. Tray 1 Day 34, Tray 2 Day 14:

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Keesje

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Because of legal reasons some people have a limit of the amount of plants per square meter.
With your system, what would you think the minimum amount of plants would be in a 3 x 3 tray?
And if you know a number, what would be different in cloning, schedule, and other circumstances?
 

klx

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Because of legal reasons some people have a limit of the amount of plants per square meter.
With your system, what would you think the minimum amount of plants would be in a 3 x 3 tray?
And if you know a number, what would be different in cloning, schedule, and other circumstances?
You could do anywhere from 1 plant up to 36 in a 3x3. The only difference would be veg time.

For a single plant in a 2 inch pot you would root it in the cloner then veg it in the tray for 6 - 8 weeks training it into the trellis, then when you have filed out the net, flower it. The problem with this is it takes an extra 8 weeks to get the same amount of bud as it does with 25 plants.

For 4 plants, it would need about a 4 week veg etc.

If I was concerned about plant numbers, I would have a separate 2x4 veg area in addition to my 2x4 mum area where I would veg a single plant for 8 weeks, 2 plants for 6 weeks, or 4 plants for 4 weeks etc then move them to the flower room. This way, you could run the same type of perpetual harvests. To do this though, I would use pots of medium instead mediumless as it gets tricky moving plants once the root mass is spread out.

Edit> Actually this is what I do now for seed runs and pheno hunting but if I was doing purely production like this I would use bigger pots.
 
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Keesje

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Then you could keep the clones in the cloner for a little longer, add some nutritients in the last 10 days and veg them in there perhaps?
 
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klx

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Then you could keep the clones in the cloner for a little longer, add some nutritients in the last 10 days and veg them in there perhaps?
It depends. If clones are rooted but my flower room is not ready, I add nutrients and let them veg for a week or so but they are only under a small light. You could probably put a bigger light above them but if the roots get too big its a hassle to move them.

For small plant numbers it wouldnt work, you would definitely need a separate veg area....or build a bigger cloner. It really all depends in how much space you have. Then build the system to maximise the space.
 

Cold$moke

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Looking good bro

Nice on the blim burn.

The bimburn green crack i have gives nice stem rubs did you have one going or was it done already?

The Chemdog 4 i have from them smells delicious but im not sure if its a good representative

as im pretty sure its my first straight chemdog strain very sweet and fruity
Very triched out (for the abuse ive given her)
 

klx

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Looking good bro

Nice on the blim burn.

The bimburn green crack i have gives nice stem rubs did you have one going or was it done already?

The Chemdog 4 i have from them smells delicious but im not sure if its a good representative

as im pretty sure its my first straight chemdog strain very sweet and fruity
Very triched out (for the abuse ive given her)
Cheers mate. The Green Crack I had was from Humboldt. It yielded well and smelled really nice while flowering and even smokes up ok but the buds were quite airy and the stems were so floppy, it was kinda annoying to grow and has been killed. But I am impressed with both Blim Burn freebies so hopefully yours is denser.
 

Cold$moke

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Nice yea mines still in veg pergatory atm

Shes about 3.5 ft still in a 4 inch rochwool block!

Nothing but roots haha i think im kicking her outside though
 
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Keesje

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Earlier in this topic we talked about the overflow and how well it works.
Today I did some testing with diameters of holes, and the amount of water they let pass.

10 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 18 to 20 minutes
20 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 7 to 8 minutes
30 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 3 to 3.30 minutes
 

klx

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Earlier in this topic we talked about the overflow and how well it works.
Today I did some testing with diameters of holes, and the amount of water they let pass.

10 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 18 to 20 minutes
20 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 7 to 8 minutes
30 mm Ø passes 100 liter of water in 3 to 3.30 minutes
Yep sounds about right.

It's coming towards winter here now and my clones were taking extra long to root. I put a fish tank heater in there set to 28C and within 2 days I had roots, after 2 weeks of none.

Makes me wonder if leaving the pump on full time in winter in the flowering trays would warm the water a bit and increase root mass. Lots of experiments to do if have the time and inclination.
 

Randomblame

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Probably a bit more h2o2/bleech needed to keep it pathogen free but it should work. Better a few degrees too warm as too cold.
In winter I also have ambient temps around 10°C/50°F and roots are even colder like that, the only ways to work with the cold would be automatic's or underfloor heating. I prefer auto's 'cause I do not consume any extra energy but it's realy annoying that you have to work with seeds all the time ...
 
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klx

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Probably a bit more h2o2/bleech needed to keep it pathogen free but it should work. Better a few degrees too warm as too cold.
In winter I also have ambient temps around 10°C/50°F and roots are even colder like that, the only ways to work with the cold would be automatic's or underfloor heating. I prefer auto's 'cause I do not consume any extra energy but it's realy annoying that you have to work with seeds all the time ...
Yeah man 28C is perfect conditions for the snot but I reckon just does with H2O2 daily instead of every 3 days and it would be fine. I could also get my cloner up off the concrete floor as well, would probably help lol
 
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