The Main-Lining Thread

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ShotoMain

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ComfortCreator said:
Indoors and outdoors have very diff results.

Indoors ime, pot size and veg time determine the end result or amount you will harvest when mainlining or manifolding. If you have 8 tops only and cut the rest you will have a similar amount to having 16 tops just smaller colas overall. 32 same thing etc. It just is a spread vs vertical thing.

Indoors I like 8 or 16 tops, and use topping in flower as a way to slow a dominant branch...i.e. 1 branch is 4 inches above others...top it and the couple days it takes to split and grow again lets the other tops catch up.

You see when you cut ALL those other nodes it does limit the final result a bit. But most dont cut every single node, in fact I find the 8 spokes to be ideal but happily grow many of the other branches up to the canopy from the other nodes.

So what I am saying is theres a limit and tradeoff to the benefits of topping a ton of times. Some plants have lots of side branching and that will fill it in great, others dont branch a lot and would benefit more from extra toppings.

Manifold was not designed for max harvest, it was designed to create multiple colas that were equal to what a typical plant's main cola are like. If you modify nugbuckets original concept with the idea in mind to harvest as much as possible of quality bud, then allow some side branching off the main branches and you will have that! 64 or 128 tops is cool but wont harvest you more in the same size pot.

A 10gallon pot will harvest more than 7, more than 5 etc.

If your plant is in its final pot then flip when they are at the appropriate height to allow for stretch. If you just transplanted give it a week.
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Thank you for a thorough explanation on side branches and yield outcome. That was specifically a case of curiosity while topping yesterday because the shoot on several first nodes already developed a second node. From what I understand, bigger roots = bigger fruits Figuring out the threshold for best quality bud on an in ground, outdoor mainlined plant can produce has been difficult to assess. In 2 weeks we'll see how 32 colas are growing along, will top to 64 colas and keep the most developed side shoots. This will allow the sun flower seeds (expected 10+ feet) time to grow and hide these 2 plants. Thankfully mainlining has kept these shorter otherwise these sativas would easily reach 9+ feet at harvest
 
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ShotoMain

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ComfortCreator said:
I had never considered mainlining for outdoors. But with a strain that has strong branches, a 32 or even 64 top tree would be epic. No limits on sun or space you could grow a 5lb plant easy imo. I can get a half lb off any strain indoors in a 10gal. Outdoors inground omg what a grow. I would want a really deep plot of quality soil.
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Hah turns out I'm doing exactly what you were pondering. The 2 plants are Durban Poison from Nirvana, dug a 2x2x1 feet hole in-ground with Whitney Farms Organic Soil from costco that was pre-mixed with compost, kelp meal, blood meal, alfa alfa meal, chicken litter, I added bone meal and mycorhizzae, they are fed Fox Farms on a feed, water, water, feed, water, water, dry day schedule. The sun is up 15.5 hrs a day, and these plants get direct 14 hrs of light with the last 1.5 hrs blocked by the house but that's fine since the u.v rays are long gone by then and there's ambient light. Popped seeds April 13th, topped twice and went in ground on June 2nd. They'll have roughly 12 weeks of veg time counting from the first topping on May 12th to an expected flowering August 7th when sunlight begins to diminish daily. My goal is all quality buds hoping for 0.5-1 lb per plant, anything more would be gravy as this is a first grow
 
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ShotoMain

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Mohican said:
This was Holy Smoke Mulanje Gold topped for 16.

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I kept them the same length as long as I could. Then it just went wild!

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Loved that plant!

Cheers,
Mo
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Thanks for sharing, plant looks great. How long was the veg, what was the end weight, and why didn't you top for 32 colas for management? Since we're mainling outdoors, is there anything in particular to keep in mind? For example, I'm planning another top dress with a pinch of organic bone meal once flowering starts
 
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Mohican

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I did a 64 in a planter. It was much smaller colas.
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The one in the ground I planted in August. Here it is on August 29:

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Harvested December and January. It was a hot dry winter.

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This was December 26:

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She started to reveg but we got a cold wet spell in February and it killed her.

January 20:

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February 10:

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Cheers,
Mo
 
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Manipulator

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Thanks Nugbuckets. Been a fan for years
 

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haprak

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Hi guys. Any1 know the fabric pot size? 7 gallon right?

What about the tomato ring diameter? Look like in perfect size for 8 main colas.

Thx
 
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