The Mexification of America.

everyone got me... good!!!

I agree with you. I really like Hispanic people. I was married to a woman who's family came up from Mexico long before illegal immigration was an issue. The Hispanics have excellent family values and an excellent work ethic as well. I've made many trips down into Mexico way past the border. I've yet to see a "lazy" Mexican in Mexico. But ... I have the same issues with ILLIGALS that you do frthnk.

Vi

after thinking about this a little, i still don't see how it's racists to be less than appreciative of the illegal aliens and the damage they are doing to our public resources. first off, mexicans are a nationality so race isn't even in the equation...if you believe that "race" is even a real thing, which i don't. second, they broke the law when they came here. they are tresspassing, every day, every breath, it's theft. living their illegal lives on our soil is an act of theft, period.

they don't like their corrupt, failing country? they need to do something about it, but don't come here and get jobs (that, yes, Americans would take!) then pump our money into that dumpster of a country. Mexico gets nearly 1/3 of their ecomony from us, from our "citizens" paying illegals and Western Unioning the $ to family back home. 1/3!!


i don't care if they sing weird songs and drink cheap beer or like to have brightly colored trincets lining their windows and cars. i commend them for being so efficient and taking car pooling to the next level. the first generation is very hard working. what bothers me is the fact that they break the law to come here and then get OUR social services, school, medical, everything that i pay for.

if we have borders at all then we need to enforce them. this isn't a game of seeing who can get that 12% latino vote, of giving business hard working cheap labor (why does each generation get lazier??? hmm...that's a job for a "Mexican" Bobby, not for people like us!), this is a huge, devastating problem that is causing enormous problems for us down the road...

citizenship should be required for getting a job, getting credit, signing US contracts, sending kids to school, etc.. we need to expell the illegals ASAP and we need to bill their government for the bus ride to take them back.

7xstall said "they are tresspassing, every day, every breath, it's theft. living their illegal lives on our soil is an act of theft, period." yea I kinda see your point, kinda like stealing Texas, California, and Arizona from Mexico back in the day. But wait that was a long time ago so it's o.k now. right????

it's a done deal, the borders are acknowledged, paperwork signed, game over. are they asking to re-negotiate a century old real estate deal?

i'm part Cherokee, should i get my guns and go about cleansing my state of the invaders?

They are not asking for a new deal. They are doing what has been done since the beginning of time. Migrating. Just like what any other animal would do when it can't find substenance and must survive. Survival of the fittest.

then if they are animals following their instinct we need a fence to keep them from breaking silly laws which us humans have to follow.

since humans have been using a little system called "commerce" for a few millenia now there's really no excuse for what they are doing. they don't have to follow the rains or find more fertile soil, they just want more and they want us to buy it for them...which we are, like fools.

In addition to the theft of social services paid for by American taxpayers, there is one part of the equasion that you guys are missing. The illegals coming here are for the most part single men and men who have left their families back in Mexico. These men who are coming here are, for the most part, uneducated

In addition to the theft of social services paid for by American taxpayers, there is one part of the equasion that you guys are missing. The illegals coming here are for the most part single men and men who have left their families back in Mexico. These men who are coming here are, for the most part, uneducated


oh yeah, i know this. they are the pawns of the socialist Mexican government... they are the reason for the longevity of an otherwise terminally ill regime!

Yes, but I got booted off before I could finish. Here's what's missed ... The illegal immigrants are America's slave class. What we are doing is immoral, in my opinion. They are stealing from us and we are stealing from them. The answer, as I see it, is to seal the border, start enforcing immigration laws at the employer level and send ALL illegals back across the border. This way, Mexico will have to change ... if it doesn't the people will rise up and revolt. Mexicans are way too passionate for the status quo.

Vi

you realize that the human race is animal. right?

What you guy's want done, which is to get rid of the illegal alians is the same type of impossible act as lets say the war on drugs.

roosterboy1 said:

you realize that the human race is animal. right?

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you realize that humans have imaginations, right? if i were to venture into the realm of taxonimy, i would probably make this TREMENDOUS distinction between living organisms and elevate the human species above other living things... if you discard this difference as not being note worthy then so be it but i do get the sense that you appreciate creativity a bit more than the average left brained person.

roosterboy1 said:

What you guy's want done, which is to get rid of the illegal alians is the same type of impossible act as lets say the war on drugs.

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a fence and guns.

we're not talking about telling people what to think, just where they can go with their feet.

don't like fences and guns? require all employers to verify citizenship status, steep, steep, steep fines for violation. a beaurocratic/monetary fence but nonetheless effective.

This is not sarcasim in any way. so please none of you take this the wrong way. It's just a compliment. This is the first time that I find a community like this that has such intelligent people. I am glad I joined even though our opinions differ. I feel lucky to of found you guy's! respect.

roosterboy ...

Thank you very much for the compliment. Man, I love good political discussions without the personal attacks. Lot's for all of us to learn ... and the best way is to learn from each other.

Vi

its good that we can agree on certain things rooster... and i understand some of your points but it is not the US that has the problem... I'm all for militatily topling most south american governments so the people can have basic rights that all humans should have... in mexico it might kinda be like animals but humans are not animals... it shouldn't be that a few select alpha males or big dogs tread all over the everyday person and most of the governments around the world unfortunatly facilitate this... i think it is our moral responsibility to make it so our fellow man has freedom and the right to pursue happiness... but alas this won't happen anytime soon due to politics and a number of other retarded policys... we are the strongest country on this earth and if we would do what is right then there could maybe be peace on earth where everyone is equal and everyone has the right to a good life no matter what country they are in or culture they follow... maybe one day...

i agree rooster, for many days i soaked in great info that was in the growing forums then something caught my eye and got me to join a political thread...this is the best group of people i've ever found on the web.

i agree 100%... its funny to think people that smoke pot could be so knowlegable and intelligent... something that the government doesn't want you to know

i think its racist that the spanish tv channel doesn't provide english subtitles.

You know.....I never thought about that. good point.