The Mexification of America.

cyphercrash

Well-Known Member
I Don't know if any of this is true but here goes

Subject: From the L.A. Times.40% of all workers in
L. A. County (L. A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes.
1. This was because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9.21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English.3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L. A. County).

(All the above from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare.
Over 70% of the United States' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration. The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was, (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), a NET $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE number.
29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
If they can come to this country to raise Hell and demonstration by the
Thousands, why can't they take charge over the corruption in their own country?

THE U.S. VS MEXICO: On February 15, 1998, the U.S.
And Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican
Even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, "This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."
Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent.
Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.
DID YOU KNOW? : That Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals?
Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?
According to the L. A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?
According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.

Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system.
"Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation,
Many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."
WHEN I WAS YOUNG: I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breathe free. They wanted to become Americans. Now, far too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.
HOW CAN YOU HELP? : Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out:
California Coalition for Immigration Reform
5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone 714-921-7142
 

ViRedd

New Member
"Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so?"

This just changed. A Mexican National was extrdited for the murder of a Sheriff's Deputy here in the Los Angeles area. The only reason the Mexican government agreed to extradite him was because the proscutor agreed to waive the death penalty. The Perp was just sentenced to life in prison w/0 the possibility of parole. Of course, we the taxpayers will be paying to support the scum for the rest of his life ... and like all cop killers, he'll be a hero in prison.

All the rest of your post is accurate. And ... it will become much worse before it gets better. As long as the majority stand still for this scam being brought upon us by the elites nothing will change.

Vi


 

cali-high

Well-Known Member
i hate that our gov. makes us pay for those basterds in jail! free food. and i was watching the news the other day and this girls stole a car so she would be put in jail. so she would get free medcal care for her cancer. when us honest tax paying americans have to pay up the ass for medical care. and when the illegals come over here they get free money from the government. and free medical care. i have no problem against leagal mexicans but when i see those illegals in the hospital. who cant even speak english. talking in spanish getting free medical. i just want to go and take back to mexico lol. all i know is if the bastard bill clintons wife becomes president. im moving to canada! are country is going to be so screwed up. she will rob the hell out of us. and pull the troops out of the war and then we will start to see on the news about another terrist atttack on our country. then she will be like we need to sign a treaty with the terrist and she will give em lots of money ect.back onto the main point of this thread. sorry for going off topic. we need to form a anti mexican force and go to the border and put up walls to protect our rights from the illegals i think our jobs and society is in danger with them comeing orver here.well thats what i got to say on the topicspeace cali-high
 

roosterboy1

Active Member
-Hate the government than change it. Stop your complaining!
-Girl stole a car because she has cancer and she is willing to go to jail to get treatment. Well that's just terrible that she want's to continue living. What was she thinking???
-The richest country in the world and over 70% of it's citizens don't have insurance, but we can WASTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARSA DAY to go halfway across the world to start wars. Killing off some of ower best Americans (our people in the millitary) in the process.
-If you want to move to Canada because Hillary might get elected (Heaven forbid) than you are not worthy of being an American. Leave!!!
-Anti-Mexican force???? Just call yourself a Nazi already and quit beating around the bush.
-Get yourself a dictionary, maybe organize your thoughts before you post.... I don't know. Maybe it will be easier to read. MAYBE???
 

frthnkr85

Well-Known Member
there is no need for hating the mexicans or any other group of immigrants after all we are almost all orginally immigrants... however we have to uphold the laws we have because they are in place for good reason... you can't just let anyone and everyone into your country because they want to come... because along with the good will come the bad... the good to me are those that want to become americans... learn the language the culture and live a decent and honest life... and the bad are all others be they murderers rapists or just people that want to take advantage of our social reform and not learn the language not learn the culture etc.... thats all there is to it... as i've said many times i've met many illegals and most were hard working and trying their best to become americans and i liked them and their attitude... but i've met some that were worthless just as their are people here of all races and nationalities that are worthless... so i guess what i'm saying is get rid of all the bums and good for nothings... let the good ones come in through a fair and balanced process... and help those people in countries that would like to overthrow their evil leadership... then the world would be a better place... to bad i'm just overly optimistic i would really love to see it happen... oh well
 

matias2911

Well-Known Member
I'm all for militatily topling most south american governments so the people can have basic rights that all humans should have... in mexico it might kinda be like animals but humans are not animals...
and help those people in countries that would like to overthrow their evil leadership...


--> military coups in latin america have actually been aided before by the US, I know it, i lived some of them, if not the aftermath .. all i can say is military regimes do not contribute to the social and economic equity and prosperity that these countries need, in order to be able to be self sustainable. The truth is that countless right-winged military dictatorships were co-financed by the Usa since the early fifties in latin america. These dictatorships sustained only the wealthy and social differences grew, poverty and violence thrived and thus emmigration became one of the best means of survival. Democratic Change today is happening in Latin and Central America (Evo Morales in Bolivia, Michelle Bachelet in Chile , Lula da Silva in Brazil to name a few), if the political inclination of these governments is center left or leftist, it is because the disparities have gone too far and the population wants social reforms, education and economic growth.This would promote a more stable economy and the institution of real democracy. Brazil has never had such economic prosperity, and poverty is decreasing at a steady rate (believe it or not, so is emigration).

My humble advice to american governments from now on would be, instead of taxing every democratically elected center left government in Latin America as ''evil menaces'' ''communists'' etc... (alas, the cold war has ended.) US should work towards better relationships with these countries, by supporting democracy (not Pinochet) commerce and diplomacy. My belief has always been that real change comes not only from within a nation, but also by attacking the root causes of issues (building a wall is hardly a solution, they'll clime over it. build two walls? they'll fly over them, shoot them on site? Yeah, that may start a nice war...again.)
 

adelgado

Active Member
I'm Brazilian. I live in brazil. I think I can provide a point of view most USA'ers don't get, witch is the point of view of an outsider.

I never been to the USA, but, as the rest of the world, I'm pumped everyday with USA culture, USA images, USA music...

Personally, I think you can look at this problem from two different angles:

1. It is a crime. People should not get in the USA illegally, at should they do, and be cought, they should face what the law says. That's it. USA'ers have a right to protect they're nation sovereinty, and not wanting illegal immigrants is a part of that.

This is a rather unreal view: It is what is right on the paper, but in realit things are much different. So there's the second point of view:

2. The lands of the USA are not to be owned by the so-called "americans" of today. They were took from the true Native Americans, so USA'ers who are a-little-too-much-strict about their view start off wrong anway. If you think this is kinda "too much" we can go a little bit closer on the past: The USA were founded by people who wanted a better life, a free life; They came to what is now the USA and imposed their cultural values and stuff. Today's illegal immigrants are people who want a better life, a free life; and they also want to keep some of their cultural values. So, when exactly in time did the shift occured that USA was no longer the land of people who wanted a better life?
So, indeed, they should get some knowledge about the culture, the language, et al. . I agree with that. But the usual USA'ers's thought that people should just not be welcome there is morrally incorrect. Also, the USA are not getting people who want to live there randomly, they do so because USA sends abroad an image that life there is good. And that message is what keeps the USA going: The economy of the USA is primarily based on things that are bought because people think that they will get the kind of life you (supposedl) have in the USA if ou get it. Everthing (From music to cars) is selled and marketed with considering of the mentality of pro-USA'ism that these people (the buyers) have...

Sure, there should be english lessons to foreigners... But, if you think about t, most of the USA'ers I know don't know their own language well... I mean, I'm brazilian and I learnt the language by myself, it's such an eas languages... Try learning portuguese... I mean english's like the easiest language ever:

Do you know how man different way a verb can be spelled en english? 4
Try the verb "to Walk"
you can say
Walk
Walks
Walked
Walking

That's it... ALL the other tenses come from other words... Come on... In portuguese "andar" (to walk) can be conjugated 75 times...
ando, anda, andas, andara, andará, andarei, ande...

And to think that many USA'ers don't know the difference between "then" and "than", "its" and "it's"... Shaaaaame...


Anway, I don't think neither method 1 or 2 are correct, what I mean is that USA'ers should get used to the fact that their nation [is maybe the only one that] needs foreign people to survive, and instead of "shootin' all 'em immigrants", as advocated by some people, should have a more responsible atitude towards immigration. Note that I do not advocate on "open it up", but let's be reasonable...

You guys say "get a Visa"... Well, it isn't that easy... For example, I have a collegue that (as myself) fights Jiu-Jitsu. The world champinship of Jiu-Jitsu is in the USA. She went trough the whole process of getting it, spent mone authenticating documents such as her ID an Passport, her Brown-Belt degree... And she got refused for not having a "family bound", meaning that she's not married... Come on, that's not reasonable... If we here in Brazil were to not letting USA'ers come in like this, ou guys wouldn't have enough athletes to win the Panamerican games in Brazil...


Danm, that got long... I need a joint, I start to talk too much when I'm sober, lol
 

420worshipper

Well-Known Member
^^^^*LOL*

It is important to remind Americans that our country was created by the states. Our nation's founders created the federal system with limited powers so the government “of the people, by the people and for the people” would keep America powerful and productive.
The "of the people, by the people and for the people" didn't come from the nations founders. It can be found in the Gettysburg Address.

Transcript of the Nicolay Draft - The Gettysburg Address (Library of Congress Exhibition)
<QUOTE>
It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
</QUOTE>

Its the last paragraph of Lincolns speech.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
LOL!!!....Great catch 420!...the above gem of obfuscation you quoted was written by Senator(GA) Nancy Shaefer!

:mrgreen:
:joint:
 

420worshipper

Well-Known Member
You guys say "get a Visa"... Well, it isn't that easy... For example, I have a collegue that (as myself) fights Jiu-Jitsu. The world champinship of Jiu-Jitsu is in the USA. She went trough the whole process of getting it, spent mone authenticating documents such as her ID an Passport, her Brown-Belt degree... And she got refused for not having a "family bound", meaning that she's not married... Come on, that's not reasonable... If we here in Brazil were to not letting USA'ers come in like this, ou guys wouldn't have enough athletes to win the Panamerican games in Brazil...


Danm, that got long... I need a joint, I start to talk too much when I'm sober, lol
Next time have your friend do what so many tennis players and golfers do to play tournaments. Have her fill out a temporary work visa. Then make sure the days of the tournaments are included with 2-3 days more before and after the tournament. Make sure to fill out what prize money is awarded, if any for first, second, third place. And then have your friend request a 1099 form from the same people she fills out visa paperwork for. They will be overjoyed to let somebody in this way. Because they will take 18% of the winnings and apply it to federal income tax.
 

adelgado

Active Member
Next time have your friend do what so many tennis players and golfers do to play tournaments. Have her fill out a temporary work visa. Then make sure the days of the tournaments are included with 2-3 days more before and after the tournament. Make sure to fill out what prize money is awarded, if any for first, second, third place. And then have your friend request a 1099 form from the same people she fills out visa paperwork for. They will be overjoyed to let somebody in this way. Because they will take 18% of the winnings and apply it to federal income tax.

Thanks for the advice!
 

shamegame

Well-Known Member
California should still belong to Mexico tbh, Along with a bunch of other land that what was stolen from them. Not to say they didn't steal it first. :)))
:?
Learn your history.We didn't steal it.They started killing US settlers in Texas that they invited to live there to build it into something.You might remember the Alamo- this was one of those instances.The MExican-American war broke out , and we marched our army all the way to Mexico city.Instead of wiping them off the face of the Earth and taking their land ( which is what we should have done in hindsight ) we allowed them to continue to exist, and they sold us the southwest for 15 million dollars.. which was a HELL of a lot of money back then....

We didnt steal shit.We were bigger, stronger, and smarter- and they decided to murder innocent civilians.Now they are taking back the land they sold us one illegal alien at a time.They burn our flag, the wear masks to hide their identities.. they attack innocent people who don't agree with them.They need to be handled ...now.Look on Youtube, liveleak, anywhere and see how these people come here and then shit on us.
 

midgradeindasouth

Well-Known Member
Maybe they should make them get individual residecnce. ( instead of 40 or them in one small house )
Also we need to start programs in their country to entice them to stay where they are at.

You know the reason marijuana was prohibited back in 30's (1936 I think) was because of a way to get the mexicans out of the southwest.
Since the mexicans were nototious for smoking it and growing it they used the weed as leverage for deportaion.

Ansliger said that the U.S. did not have a prob with pot so as that it needed to be prohibited.
They just needed a reason to force the Latinos out of the country.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
I believe the writing on the statue of liberty have something to say. We need to allow people in. And we need to improve their lives and their chances to succeed (I dont advocate blocking or slowing the immigration just making it so they learn what it means to be american before they move here.)
Lets base our immigration policy on a poem. Good idea!

Since you like that idea, I assume you are taking it literally. So we will take in all the homeless people of the world.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
This whole thing comes to a few key points. America welcomes immigrants with open arms for a piece of what we can offer as one of the greatest places on earth but there are a few regulations which have to be in place.You have to come legally register become a citizen so you can be established get your social security number and be a productive part og the country.Its immigration through esimilation.You come here you learn this countries language so you can be apart of it you dont say screw that america should learn spainish and have spainish signs and commercials..No not at all America is an english speaking and reading country andthats what works.People leave Mexico for a better life but then want to make America like Mexico well bad thing is Mexico is a dump or depression and poverty for the most part why make the golden egg of America into pewter?If your truely wanting a better life in this country come on but do it the correct way and dont force a non working countries ways on a country that is in much better condition.We have to watch who comes in the borders now we have to as we now have illegals who want to blow things up and kill for nothing more then hate.Illegal mexicans come and take all thier money and send it back to mexico to get more illegals over they dont pay taxes on it but use the roads the water the food everything but dont want to contribute back to America which is a problem.If you want to send money back to family fine but you have to ante up to the country who is providing to you and the worst are the illegal mexicans who get mad when they get caught and arrested saying its not right they are targeted and have rights.Ummm weel yes your targeted as your breaking several laws just being here the wrong way and as a non us citizen us rights are not for you.Your a mexican national and have rights where??? In Mexico.So if you wanna be on the team do it the right way .Dont forget your culture or heritage just remember as an American you have a new culture your responsible for teach it and learn it to keep it alive.......
 

shamegame

Well-Known Member
Lets base our immigration policy on a poem. Good idea!

Since you like that idea, I assume you are taking it literally. So we will take in all the homeless people of the world.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
You need to understand that the statue does not have that engraved on the outside as many people mistakenly think. about 20 years after the French gave us the statue there was a fund raiser held at the statue for some cause or another.Some random person thought it would help raise more money so they posted that up INSIDE the statue JUSt for that one fund raising event.
 

RASCALONE

Well-Known Member
This whole thing comes to a few key points. America welcomes immigrants with open arms for a piece of what we can offer as one of the greatest places on earth but there are a few regulations which have to be in place.You have to come legally register become a citizen so you can be established get your social security number and be a productive part og the country.Its immigration through esimilation.You come here you learn this countries language so you can be apart of it you dont say screw that america should learn spainish and have spainish signs and commercials..No not at all America is an english speaking and reading country andthats what works.People leave Mexico for a better life but then want to make America like Mexico well bad thing is Mexico is a dump or depression and poverty for the most part why make the golden egg of America into pewter?If your truely wanting a better life in this country come on but do it the correct way and dont force a non working countries ways on a country that is in much better condition.We have to watch who comes in the borders now we have to as we now have illegals who want to blow things up and kill for nothing more then hate.Illegal mexicans come and take all thier money and send it back to mexico to get more illegals over they dont pay taxes on it but use the roads the water the food everything but dont want to contribute back to America which is a problem.If you want to send money back to family fine but you have to ante up to the country who is providing to you and the worst are the illegal mexicans who get mad when they get caught and arrested saying its not right they are targeted and have rights.Ummm weel yes your targeted as your breaking several laws just being here the wrong way and as a non us citizen us rights are not for you.Your a mexican national and have rights where??? In Mexico.So if you wanna be on the team do it the right way .Dont forget your culture or heritage just remember as an American you have a new culture your responsible for teach it and learn it to keep it alive.......
I DONT WHAT RACE U R FILTHY<BUT U GOT A HEAD ON UR SHOULDERS<IM MEXICAN AND I TOTALLY AGREE<AND IVE BROKEN A GRIP A LAWS<BACK IN THE DAY,BUT IF U GOT THE NUTS 2 BREAKEM<HAVEM TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCE<COUSE IF UR HERE ILLEGALLY<UR BREAKING THEM !!!!!
 

medicineman

New Member
.. FRnknthr says........... ?and help those people in countries that would like to overthrow their evil leadership... then the world would be a better place."...................I agree, we should start here with the Bush-Cheney regime.
 

420worshipper

Well-Known Member
You need to understand that the statue does not have that engraved on the outside as many people mistakenly think. about 20 years after the French gave us the statue there was a fund raiser held at the statue for some cause or another.Some random person thought it would help raise more money so they posted that up INSIDE the statue JUSt for that one fund raising event.

Actually the engraving of the poem is still located on the inside of the Statue of Liberty exhibit.

Photos - Statue of Liberty - The New Colossus (U.S. National Park Service)
 

el_maco

Well-Known Member
Learn your history.We didn't steal it.They started killing US settlers in Texas that they invited to live there to build it into something.You might remember the Alamo- this was one of those instances.The MExican-American war broke out , and we marched our army all the way to Mexico city.Instead of wiping them off the face of the Earth and taking their land ( which is what we should have done in hindsight ) we allowed them to continue to exist, and they sold us the southwest for 15 million dollars.. which was a HELL of a lot of money back then....

We didnt steal shit.We were bigger, stronger, and smarter- and they decided to murder innocent civilians.Now they are taking back the land they sold us one illegal alien at a time.They burn our flag, the wear masks to hide their identities.. they attack innocent people who don't agree with them.They need to be handled ...now.Look on Youtube, liveleak, anywhere and see how these people come here and then shit on us.
uhmm, it doesnt surprise me if you learned that in your history classes, we killed those "settlers"(illegal aliens) because they claimed those lands werent a part of mexico, i think you would the same if the chicanos claim california as mexico and rebel with arms against you
the history taught here is that you forced us to give those lands, afterall you were the ones who invaded mexico, when we didnt invade USA
we should note that USA in fact, was an expanding country and sorry for the pollitically incorrect word, but indeed was an empire(and i think still is)
some decades later we had a civil war(mexican revolution) and you intervened a lot, in the outcome you even prohibited us to produce electrical motors, and some other similar examples
 
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