The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread
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jberry
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In your situation, I would only re-pot if you are able to keep vegging them for a little longer before you put them into flower... even just another 5-7 days of veg after re-potting would help some.
If you dont have the space to keep vegging, then I would just keep them in the pots they are in and flower them.
If the plants are really root bound and you cant keep vegging after re-potting then you could make a exception and re-pot and put them straight into flower... this will work just fine but is just not the ideal method.
jberry
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Hi Jberry I have 1ltr CANNA CO-CO A&B NUTRIENT
how much to use on the plants please I am a first time grower the pants are comeing up to 2 weeks old there 1x Short Stuff
1x Auto AK47 x Auto Blueberry
2x Diesel Ryder
any help would be most appreciated
I would start with 6-8 ml. per gallon and eventually work it up to around 13-15ml per gal. during the peak of flowering (If you use other additives, then you will want to keep it lower, like 10-12ml per gal.)...
that's 6-8ml of Coco A and another 6-8ml of Coco B for each gallon of water... Add the A & B one at a time to the water, stir, adjust your pH to 5.6-6.0 and let it sit for a couple of hours, then re-check the pH one last time (adjust again if needed) and the nutrient solution is ready to use. Use the solution within 4 days or less when possible.
las fingerez
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hi mate gonna use the bio range on coco and add some extra cal/mag. what are your thoughts on this please? all good? thanks
sambo020482
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soil grower hear but thats only for 2yrs not that long really lol but why change to coco? have you not gotta keep ontop of ec n ph levels if so why not just grow hydro?
Don Gin and Ton
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hey sambo man coco is piss easy mate i dont ph or ec jack shit i make my feeds and push over the recommended dose of everything, without problems. as long as you dont go waaaay overboard and can read your plants youll be fine. ( tho as im sure jbery is right in saying unless you read what your plants run off is like you have no way of knowing whats going on ) i dont have runoff so im doubly blind....
its near impossible to overwater and the extra oxygen to the roots is blazingly obvious when you pot up with coco the roots look shiny silvery white, so healthy man.
its near impossible to overwater and the extra oxygen to the roots is blazingly obvious when you pot up with coco the roots look shiny silvery white, so healthy man.
las fingerez
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lol @ the usual suspects! i kinda see coco as kinda hydro but with the contol of pots, might be the wrong way to look at it but its only my opinion lol.
well i've started with the bio/coco grow, got some bat crap gonna make tea to replace the absorbed cal. i'll let u know how it goes.
well i've started with the bio/coco grow, got some bat crap gonna make tea to replace the absorbed cal. i'll let u know how it goes.
Don Gin and Ton
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hahah yeah Keyser Söze was just here man....
coco is pretty much hydro man its inert medium much like the clay balls
coco is pretty much hydro man its inert medium much like the clay balls
RockstarEnergy
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hey j what do you think about sprinkling in some of those soil moist water absorbing crystals into the coir? im still thinking of ways to use as much coco in my outdoor mix without it drying out in 24-36hrs haha.
thanks.
thanks.
jberry
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that stuff sucks big time...
what about just using bigger pots so u dont have to water as often?
RockstarEnergy
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im gonna be putting them straight into holes in the ground. i wanna do like a 50/50 coco and compost mix, maybe 75/25, and im hopefully gonna dig the holes to fit about 3-4 gallons. its guerilla style so i dont really want to have to water more than once a week. my state gets an average of 3-4 inches of rain each month so does this sound feasible?
oh and my spot is about 25 yards away from a river...i dont know if that makes a difference.
i know you are an indoor grower so its cool if you dont know.
jberry
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oh yea. honestly i would just use like 30% coco mixed with a rich potting soil... ive never seen anyone succeed using those moisture control products but if the drying out becomes a problem then you could try adding a little dish soap to the soil... that will keep things wetter for longer. You may want to add some extra vermiculite as well.
I did grow outdoors for several years (many years ago), and one thing I would stress when growing outdoors (if you want big plants) is to dig the holes really big. Dig it as big as you think it should be and then dig it bigger lol.
I know that the ground near the river can get colder than typical... use burlap if cold weather is a concern.
Guerilla grows can be really tough with all the bad weather, mold , bugs, deer ,mice/ rats, thieves, camo issues and so on... but I wish u good luck and hope it works out. Some strains are definitely more ideal than others for guerilla growing, u want something stable, reliable, resistant, hardy and quick flowering.
do u have strain choices or do u have one picked and growing already?
I did grow outdoors for several years (many years ago), and one thing I would stress when growing outdoors (if you want big plants) is to dig the holes really big. Dig it as big as you think it should be and then dig it bigger lol.
I know that the ground near the river can get colder than typical... use burlap if cold weather is a concern.
Guerilla grows can be really tough with all the bad weather, mold , bugs, deer ,mice/ rats, thieves, camo issues and so on... but I wish u good luck and hope it works out. Some strains are definitely more ideal than others for guerilla growing, u want something stable, reliable, resistant, hardy and quick flowering.
do u have strain choices or do u have one picked and growing already?
steve1978
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scribed! love coco because its is so hard to fuck up with! i mean you cant over water and if you over feed your plant you can flush and be back to
normal within hours! my current grow is half canna coco-half plagron coco. (the shop ran out of canna coco). i am also 
using the whole canna nute range apart from the boost. as jberry says early in the thread its too pricey for my liking. 
im using monster bloom instead which is shockingly cheap and is doing a great job for me.
is it o.k to throw up a pic?
sorry about the pics but im so chuffed with this grow im putting them everywhere!!! lol
normal within hours! my current grow is half canna coco-half plagron coco. (the shop ran out of canna coco). i am also using the whole canna nute range apart from the boost. as jberry says early in the thread its too pricey for my liking. im using monster bloom instead which is shockingly cheap and is doing a great job for me.is it o.k to throw up a pic?
sorry about the pics but im so chuffed with this grow im putting them everywhere!!! lol
wallycork
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Im in week 5 of a soil grow, LA woman, euforia, dinafem white widow,
I now feed them: per 10l
60ml Terra Flores
5ml Rhizotonic
25ml Cannazym
I gave them PK 13-14 for For 1 week, week 4
Currently giving them Boost accererator at 30ml as well as molases at 2 teaspoons per 10l.
Its pretty much the canna charts feeding schedule. There has been some nute burn on the lower leaves of all the plants, I have canna flush
so should i use that or just lower my nutes for a feeding.
Also any advice on my current schedule is appreciated. Im thinking i should keep using the pk 13-14 for another two weeks?
I now feed them: per 10l
60ml Terra Flores
5ml Rhizotonic
25ml Cannazym
I gave them PK 13-14 for For 1 week, week 4
Currently giving them Boost accererator at 30ml as well as molases at 2 teaspoons per 10l.
Its pretty much the canna charts feeding schedule. There has been some nute burn on the lower leaves of all the plants, I have canna flush
so should i use that or just lower my nutes for a feeding.
Also any advice on my current schedule is appreciated. Im thinking i should keep using the pk 13-14 for another two weeks?
RockstarEnergy
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ok cool 30% will work. i dont want huuuge plants but i'd be happy with 3-4 feet tall. i'll dig as much as i can though.
I'm gonna go with Northern Lights for my strain. mainly because i have seeds left over from this winter and im saving my money for a trip this summer so i dont want to buy new seeds. they were really strong indoors so hopefully they'll do well outside. NL is fairly popular in the outdoor forum but some people have mold issues which scares me.
im gonna try to get them started inside this week.
jberry
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You can use a super diluted nute solution for flushing to help with your burn(you can use the cannaflush if you want to). I would cut the rhizo out at this point as well. I would also cut back on the molasses as well.You're already using the boost, so you should be okay without using much molasses (it may even be contributing to your problem). You can use the pk13/14 for longer than 1 week but I would be cautious since you currently have burned plants... The plants only need the extra PK for around a week or two... the trick is making sure you give the PK during this time window which will vary from strain to strain ect.
mississippi
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start of week 5 flower
what ec should i go to with just pk 13/14, no other nuts
what ec should i go to with just pk 13/14, no other nuts
jberry
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thats not a good idea to use just the pk with no other nutes because it will throw your ratios off.
but to answer your question I would use the pk13/14 at 4-6ml per gal.
Im going to assume (based on your idea) that you are using nutrient rich soil as your medium? -it would probably be ok if that is the case.
mississippi
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yes soz, in soil
nuts last water, would it be ok to pk them now (next water)
what ec please , have litres and not measured tank size,
only ever used ec pen because nute usage guide way off, when i accurately measured 10ml to 1L of water
thank u
nuts last water, would it be ok to pk them now (next water)
what ec please , have litres and not measured tank size,
only ever used ec pen because nute usage guide way off, when i accurately measured 10ml to 1L of water
thank u
jberry
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I dont know what EC that dosage would make off the top of my head and would have to mix some up my self to see what it came out to.
To figure out the EC that I recommended then you can mix a Teaspoon (1tsp.=5ml.) of pk13/14 into 3.78L (1 gal.) of water... stir it up and check the EC... Whatever it reads should be the EC you want to use... Usually 1ml - 1.5ml. per Liter is about as much as you would want to use.
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