The Truth About Ron Paul

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UncleBuck

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yes, sir.

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may i add....

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sync0s

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UncleBuck said:
that is the answer! ignore that he is ON RECORD defending his racist newsletter, assert that he would not act on such racism.

nice job!
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I did not assert anything and where did he go on record defending the newsletter? I would like references to your claims. The only thing I said is that if he is a true constitutional advocate, he would not impose any racist laws or regulations as that would be completely unconstitutional, and he knows this. I am not ignoring anything at all. There was no ignorance in my statement that I believe in truth maybe he did write the articles in the newsletter, but only him and those involved know the truth. As far as political ideals, his in fact, would absolutely object to any racist laws.

reason: Do you have any response to The New Republic's article about your newsletters?
Ron Paul: All it is--it's old stuff. It's all been rehashed. It's all political stuff.
reason: Why don't you release all the old letters?
Paul: I don't even have copies of them, because it's ancient history.
reason: Do you stand by what appears in the letters? Did you write these...?
Paul: No. I've discussed all of that in the past. It's just old news.

reason: Did the New Republic talk to you before they ran it?

Paul: No, I never talked to them.
reason: What do you think of Martin Luther King?
Paul: Martin Luther King is one of my heroes because he believed in nonviolence and that's a libertarian principle. Rosa Parks is the same way. Gandhi, I admire. Because they're willing to take on the government, they were willing to take on bad laws. So I believe in civil disobedience if you understand the consequences. Martin Luther King was a great person because he did that and he changed America for the better because of that.
reason: You didn't write the derogatory things about him in the letter?
Paul: No.​
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In truth, the real accusations of RP being a racist stems from his stance on the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the fact that he said he would not have voted for it.

NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist
Linder says Paul being smeared because he is a threat to the establishment

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Sunday, January 13, 2008


Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment.

Linder joined Alex Jones for two segments on his KLBJ Sunday show this evening, during which he commented on the controversy created by media hit pieces that attempted to tarnish Paul as a racist by making him culpable for decades old newsletter articles written by other people.

"Knowing Ron Paul's intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that....so I think it's very easy for folks who want to to take his position out of context and that's what I'm hearing," said Linder.



NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist
Linder says Paul being smeared because he is a threat to the establishment

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Sunday, January 13, 2008


Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment.

Linder joined Alex Jones for two segments on his KLBJ Sunday show this evening, during which he commented on the controversy created by media hit pieces that attempted to tarnish Paul as a racist by making him culpable for decades old newsletter articles written by other people.

"Knowing Ron Paul's intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that....so I think it's very easy for folks who want to to take his position out of context and that's what I'm hearing," said Linder.

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"Knowing Ron Paul and having talked to him, I think he's a very fair guy I just think that a lot of folks do not understand the Libertarian platform," he added.

Asked directly if Ron Paul was a racist, Linder responded "No I don't," adding that he had heard Ron Paul speak out about police repression of black communities and mandatory minimum sentences on many occasions.

Dr. Paul has also publicly praised Martin Luther King as his hero on many occasions spanning back 20 years.

"I've read Ron Paul's whole philosophy, I also understand what he's saying from a political standpoint and why people are attacking him," said Linder.

"If you scare the folks that have the money, they're going to attack you and they're going to take it out of context," he added.

"What he's saying is really really threatening the powers that be and that's what they fear," concluded the NAACP President.

Click here to listen to the MP3 interview.

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/130108linder.mp3
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Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
link please?
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http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1996_1343749/campaign-96-u-s-house-newsletter-excerpts-offer-am.html

Here is the quote from the article of him explaining the racist quotes.

Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of ""current events and statistical reports of the time."
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sync0s

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Dan Kone said:
http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1996_1343749/campaign-96-u-s-house-newsletter-excerpts-offer-am.html

Here is the quote from the article of him explaining the racist quotes.



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You said that he was interviewed by the houston chronicle, right? This is not an interview, it is an article that is taking quotes from the publishings of the newsletter, the same newsletter RP denies writing.

If you are going to say that he defended the newsletter in an INTERVIEW, please post a reference to the INTERVIEW.
 
Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
You said that he was interviewed by the houston chronicle, right? This is not an interview, it is an article that is taking quotes from the publishings of the newsletter, the same newsletter RP denies writing.

If you are going to say that he defended the newsletter in an INTERVIEW, please post a reference to the INTERVIEW.
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The quotes were from the newsletter, the comments were not.

Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of ""current events and statistical reports of the time."
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sync0s

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The unquoted comments were at opinion of the houston chronicle. You put quotes around anything that somebody other than the writer says, unless you are summing it up.

For god sakes Dan Kone, the title says: "Newsletter excerpts offer ammunition to Paul's opponent/GOP hopeful quoted on race, crime"
 
Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
The unquoted comments were at opinion of the houston chronicle. You put quotes around anything that somebody other than the writer says, unless you are summing it up.
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So the quoted comments which the houston chronicle said came from Ron Paul the wendsay of that week when asked about the newsletter don't count?

For god sakes Dan Kone, the title says: "Newsletter excerpts offer ammunition to Paul's opponent/GOP hopeful quoted on race, crime"
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So we must ignore that the paper went to Ron Paul to ask about the comments and then quoted his response because of the title of the article? Interesting set of rules we are playing by here. I take it we are making them up as we go along?

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sync0s

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Dan Kone said:
So the quoted comments which the houston chronicle said came from Ron Paul the wendsay of that week when asked about the newsletter don't count?



So we must ignore that the paper went to Ron Paul to ask about the comments and then quoted his response because of the title of the article? Interesting set of rules we are playing by here. I take it we are making them up as we go along?

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Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of ""current events and statistical reports of the time."
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Where in that quote does it say "Ron Paul said in an interview?" It does not specify that it was an interview or who it was said too. It only says that Ron Paul said it on Wednesday. Like I said, even the article tells you that it didn't interview him.
 
sync0s

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Adding to your Noam Chomsky reference. Noam Chomsky is not an economist. He is a philosopher and a linguist, so his views are equal to RP's as political ideals.
 
Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
Where in that quote does it say "Ron Paul said in an interview?" It does not specify that it was an interview or who it was said too. It only says that Ron Paul said it on Wednesday. Like I said, even the article tells you that it didn't interview him.
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It's in quotes stating that he said it on Wednesday right? Well then if that isn't true the newspaper committed a crime that could have cost Ron Paul his career. Do you really think Ron Paul would just let that go if it wasn't true?

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Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
Adding to your Noam Chomsky reference. Noam Chomsky is not an economist. He is a philosopher and a linguist, so his views are equal to RP's as political ideals.
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Are you saying that any two people who aren't economists views on the subject are equally credible? In a perfect world maybe, but not in this one.

There is a pretty damn big difference in intelligence and substance between Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul.

I'm just posting these in response to the 2/3 of this board who constantly attaches Ron Paul videos to every post. If they are going to spam Ron Paul, then I'll be spamming Noam Chomsky until further notice.

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sync0s

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Dan Kone said:
It's in quotes stating that he said it on Wednesday right? Well then if that isn't true the newspaper committed a crime that could have cost Ron Paul his career. Do you really think Ron Paul would just let that go if it wasn't true?

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You misunderstood my statement. I missed the word "above" before quote. What are you talking about isn't true? I'm saying that this cited reference of yours is not an interview, and even the article's title says it is not an interview. Please, give me an actual interview defending your claims, that's all I ask for. Quit defending this one source you have as if it is your only reference.

The constant attachment of RP is because this is a thread on RP ideals and people are showing his opinion on the matters that we are discussing. After all, this thread was created to discuss the ideals of RP. Post away on Noam Chomsky, however, as I like to learn and hear different ideas. I was just making sure the point was driven that he is not an economist as he paints himself to be.
 
Dan Kone

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sync0s said:
You misunderstood my statement. I missed the word "above" before quote. What are you talking about isn't true? I'm saying that this cited reference of yours is not an interview, and even the article's title says it is not an interview. Please, give me an actual interview defending your claims, that's all I ask for. Quit defending this one source you have as if it is your only reference.
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Wait, why doesn't his quote count? If it's not done on a sit down video interview that means it didn't happen. Interesting set of rules you're making up here.

The constant attachment of RP is because this is a thread on RP ideals and people are showing his opinion on the matters that we are discussing. After all, this thread was created to discuss the ideals of RP. Post away on Noam Chomsky, however, as I like to learn and hear different ideas. I was just making sure the point was driven that he is not an economist as he paints himself to be.
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Same could be said about Ron Paul, except Chomsky is 1000000x smarter.

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OregonMeds

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Dan Kone said:
Are you saying that any two people who aren't economists views on the subject are equally credible? In a perfect world maybe, but not in this one.

There is a pretty damn big difference in intelligence and substance between Noam Chomsky and Ron Paul.

I'm just posting these in response to the 2/3 of this board who constantly attaches Ron Paul videos to every post. If they are going to spam Ron Paul, then I'll be spamming Noam Chomsky until further notice.

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We are in a Ron Paul thread, posting Ron Paul videos is appropriate. If you want to start a Noam Chomsky thread then you will be free to post all the video's you like about that guy, but if your intention is just to be an asshole as this post clearly indicates and SPAM just out of spite or whatever, I'm going to report you and encourage everyone else do the same and we will have you banned from this site entirely.

You've gone from debate to failure to bullshit tactics overnight. It's those that can't fight fair and can't win an argument that have to stoop that low, congratulations, you win, you are that low and we see it now.

I suggest you grow the fuck up and treat us with respect because for quite a while I've been waiting to see what your motive was and now you are making it very clear. We will tear you apart if you're just being a spamming asshole so knock that shit off really fucking fast or you'll find yourself kicked and banned in a heartbeat. This is not a joke, there is nothing frowned upon more here than SPAM and you just said outright that is your intention. You are right there to be pushed over the edge any time we like.

As far as your absurd idea that newspapers and reporters can't lie or Ron Paul would go after them, that is about the dumbest argument I've heard in a long time. I suggest you educate yourself on truth and the media. Look up the story of bovine growth hormone or monsanto that's a good place to start learning the truth about the media and reporting in this country. Reporters are more often fired for telling the truth, lies are allowed in the news and media more than the truth is.

I haven't reported you yet, I'll let this slide one time if you'll get back in the game and fight fair but that's it, you only get one warning and the only reason I'm giving you this one opportunity is because you are helping us by constantly arguing and allowing us to make you look like a fool. You are also helping us by keeping Ron Paul threads at the top of new posts and some of the most active threads alive here.

It appears to me if you don't like Ron Paul your best way to win now would just be to stop calling attention to our threads by bumping them constantly for us, but I doubt you'll understand that.
 
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