dbol does make you bloated but it will increase your strength more than any other oral bar anadrol,and most of the bloat is water retention which goes after use and leaves you looking more ripped than you was when you was on dbol,and some of the strength gained on dbol is keepable and you will gain more muscle mass on dbol than you would on winnie,if you want a ripped look then anavar is a good option,i would be doing dbol if it made you stay bloated lol that goes leaving a nice body,armie done test and dbol cycles throughout his career and he was never bloated on films coz he waited a few weeks till the water weight went, if you want a cut look then do test and anavar/masteron stack