The UK Growers Thread!

[The Yorkshireman]

but why tho yman, why not just let a bomb off yourself or have a free pass to some loon to do it for you, its gotta be harder to control all these ''paid actors'' than it is too keep quiet a dead bomber?

Gagging orders mate.

Speak up and you go to prison or worse........disappear.

The cops are told they're having a "drill" or "exercise" and they are in the gang so cops will never speak up if they know it to be bent.

Gagging orders for the few people who actually know the truth (very few) and the rest are randomers that just follow the official narrative with emotion and not logic.

 

[tip top toker]

What's the best they find the guy has a phone at home with WhatsApp installed and there will be a renewed push for the removal, or ability to circumvent encryption.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

We live in the most CCTV covered country in the world.

Yet there is not one single CCTV video shot of an explosion in the foyer/front door of a major arena in the center of Manchester, an arena in the center of Manchester that is built on to the side of a major fucking railway station that is also CCTV'd upto the eyeballs!


Just some food for thought there people.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

What's the best they find the guy has a phone at home with WhatsApp installed and there will be a renewed push for the removal, or ability to circumvent encryption.

There already is.

They've been pushing to ban encription in the UK since the London riots a few years ago when they all used BBM to communicate.

 

[tip top toker]

There already is.

They've been pushing to ban encription in the UK since the London riots a few years ago when they all used BBM to communicate.

Indeed, but it's never gotten anywhere. Straw that broke the camels back and that lot.

The CCTV is probably all under lock and key for security and Investigatory reasons, never to be seen again. Just like the pentagon...

 

[The Yorkshireman]

So my mates bird has just found this...........




Apparently somebody screen shot it, can't suss out if it's legit yet as we have no source.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

So yeah it's legit, Michael Minay writes for LadBible.

I think this is the same post.......

http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-suspected-bomb-scare-at-manchester-arena-during-ariana-grande-concert-20170522


Which was posted 19 hours ago, could well have been before the fact.

 

[DST]

The Tin foil hat meme is catch all to describe anything that doesn't fit with the official narrative, scurrilous, to shut down debate imo.
Clearly Yman has a point, where is the iPhone footage, should be shitloads with all those teens there

imo I think its a tad quick to say it was a red/false flag or whatever without having actually been to the event, or having been to the aftermath to check what is actually happening. What if it is totally real and youngsters have died (you are a parent, you'd be fucked off if it was one of your kids and some conspiracy theorist said it was a hoax). And if it was a hoax, there are enough folk in the world and on social media to pipe the fuck up and say, "Wow, wait a minute, I was there and fuck all happened". I just don't buy the UK govt or whoever going to such extremes, for what, so they can add a bit of more security to the world/country. They already have that mandate. Whatever the Americans say is going to happen with security, the rest of the world fall in line with. Govt's don't need to create false flag terrorist events. But hey, that's just my opinion. As I said, media will try to glamourise and upsell their stories as that is their bread and butter. Horrible cunts on the whole, but what can you do about it!?

 

[bazoomer]

^^^^^^Fuck me. There's a bit of sense

 

[tip top toker]

imo I think its a tad quick to say it was a red/false flag or whatever without having actually been to the event, or having been to the aftermath to check what is actually happening. What if it is totally real and youngsters have died (you are a parent, you'd be fucked off if it was one of your kids and some conspiracy theorist said it was a hoax). And if it was a hoax, there are enough folk in the world and on social media to pipe the fuck up and say, "Wow, wait a minute, I was there and fuck all happened". I just don't buy the UK govt or whoever going to such extremes, for what, so they can add a bit of more security to the world/country. They already have that mandate. Whatever the Americans say is going to happen with security, the rest of the world fall in line with. Govt's don't need to create false flag terrorist events. But hey, that's just my opinion. As I said, media will try to glamourise and upsell their stories as that is their bread and butter. Horrible cunts on the whole, but what can you do about it!?

Come now DST, that's a rather boring attitude I have no infirmation to take any stance, but always interesting to discuss the possibilities because why not I don't subscribe to the vast majority of conspiracy theories, and those which situations I think iffy, I've my own thoughts, not just buy into the typical "illuminati" style asnwers, but I think it better to be of a mindset where you're willing to question than just accept something as fact. Too many past examples to have complete trust in the government.

 

[Mastergrow]

I'm on the same boat as rambo, I believe it happened and that some spineless terrorist cunt done it but wer probly being told some lies along the way......like Andy being thrown 30ft lol. As dst says if one of the kids was ur relation u wouldn't be to happy with the whole conspiracy stories goin about. Sad to say too but it's goina keep happening, not much u can do about some nut job lone bomber deciding to blow people up, how u suppose to stop it?

 

[Ghettogrower187]

Alreeeeeeeet arse bandits? Got out today only took 3 pints to muller me

 

[DST]

Come now DST, that's a rather boring attitude I have no infirmation to take any stance, but always interesting to discuss the possibilities because why not I don't subscribe to the vast majority of conspiracy theories, and those which situations I think iffy, I've my own thoughts, not just buy into the typical "illuminati" style asnwers, but I think it better to be of a mindset where you're willing to question than just accept something as fact. Too many past examples to have complete trust in the government.

1st year psychology and some 2nd year sociology. Stuff i learned over 26 years ago.
1/ 1st yr psychology. Witnesses are unreliable regardless of who they are (education level, social standing etc). 3 guys with masks on come into a lecture theatre during a class. With weapons and intent. They carry out a mock hold up and then leave. Everyone is told its a set up and then ask to write down whay they saw. The range of what people recall, or think they recall is massive. And in a lot of cases wrong.
2/ Media scares have been used for decades to influence and "sell papers". It will continue.
So yeh TTT. It gets a bit boring after a few years. I question in my mind everything that i see and how it is reported. Doesn't mean i dont believe in the basic events that get reported on. And also the fact i tend not to spend too much energy on things i have no influence on.

 

[DST]

Alreeeeeeeet arse bandits? Got out today only took 3 pints to muller me

Happy days lad. Enjoy.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

not much u can do about some nut job lone bomber deciding to blow people up, how u suppose to stop it?

Attack the muslims which is what they want and Piers Morgan would love that.

At the very least they go after what they perceive to be 'extreme' views or opinions on social media.
They essentially get to curb free speech and punish you for having an opinion.
Theresa May and the Tories have already started to do this by passing anti extremism laws, like the Extremist Disruption Orders that essentially make free speech on social media illegal.

What constitutes an 'extremist opinion' is entirely decided by the powers that be, but you can bet your bollocks that eventually it'll have fuck all to do with religious views.

Has everybody seen the movie Demolition Man?
That's the kind of society that we're heading towards and fast.

 

[Mastergrow]

Attack the muslims which is what they want and Piers Morgan would love that.

At the very least they go after what they perceive to be 'extreme' views or opinions on social media.
They essentially get to curb free speech and punish you for having an opinion.
Theresa May and the Tories have already started to do this by passing anti extremism laws, like the Extremist Disruption Orders that essentially make free speech on social media illegal.

What constitutes an 'extremist opinion' is entirely decided by the powers that be, but you can bet your bollocks that eventually it'll have fuck all to do with religious views.

Has everybody seen the movie Demolition Man?
That's the kind of society that we're heading towards and fast.

I don't do social media so means fuck all to me. I'd attack a few Muslims if that would help or have u ever seen the movie "the purge", we could do that once in a while and see what happens. Either way it's all gone Pete tong lol

 

[tip top toker]

1st year psychology and some 2nd year sociology. Stuff i learned over 26 years ago.
1/ 1st yr psychology. Witnesses are unreliable regardless of who they are (education level, social standing etc). 3 guys with masks on come into a lecture theatre during a class. With weapons and intent. They carry out a mock hold up and then leave. Everyone is told its a set up and then ask to write down whay they saw. The range of what people recall, or think they recall is massive. And in a lot of cases wrong.
2/ Media scares have been used for decades to influence and "sell papers". It will continue.
So yeh TTT. It gets a bit boring after a few years. I question in my mind everything that i see and how it is reported. Doesn't mean i dont believe in the basic events that get reported on. And also the fact i tend not to spend too much energy on things i have no influence on.

Ha, well it sounds like your education was better than mine! I've just finished my business and psych degree and feel I've learned diddly squat. I've learnt more about business through growing and investing in watches than 3 years of learning, and psych, well I've learnt that you must be critical about everything, but only if your critique is someone elses criticism and has the appropriate Harvard reference to support it

 

[scrambo]

Alreeeeeeeet arse bandits? Got out today only took 3 pints to muller me

i see they shut your dirty cheating thread down, too many yanks lol

good to have you back tho ghet, had some random number txt me the other night didnt have a clue who it was n replied ''is this ghet i hope so'' followed by no its marcus lolol felt abit bad ive known the bloke yrs but do go threw the odd sim or 3......

 

[zeddd]

imo I think its a tad quick to say it was a red/false flag or whatever without having actually been to the event, or having been to the aftermath to check what is actually happening. What if it is totally real and youngsters have died (you are a parent, you'd be fucked off if it was one of your kids and some conspiracy theorist said it was a hoax). And if it was a hoax, there are enough folk in the world and on social media to pipe the fuck up and say, "Wow, wait a minute, I was there and fuck all happened". I just don't buy the UK govt or whoever going to such extremes, for what, so they can add a bit of more security to the world/country. They already have that mandate. Whatever the Americans say is going to happen with security, the rest of the world fall in line with. Govt's don't need to create false flag terrorist events. But hey, that's just my opinion. As I said, media will try to glamourise and upsell their stories as that is their bread and butter. Horrible cunts on the whole, but what can you do about it!?

Well that got emotional very quickly, I am appalled that this incident happened and children were killed however I don't buy the official narrative Atm cos there is no hard evidence.
This is exactly what I mean by divide and rule, the British invented it and conquered 2/3 of the world. Kill children then get people arguing as to who killed them, sick world but don't believe the hype

 

[zeddd]

Alreeeeeeeet arse bandits? Got out today only took 3 pints to muller me

Used to take you 2