The Ultimate Growing Competition

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Big Perm

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A year of growing may seem like a while, you have to really count the grows though. After a while you start to get a feel for stuff. If you are running a different strain each time, it takes longer to get it down, and random screwball stuff pops up in some strains that you might not know about.
Once you get some experience in, you'll throw the schedules away and read the plant in combination with what you have learned from all of those other grows.
You'll get it. It pisses people off though the way you and people like you come across. Arguing with someone about something you know little about isn't a good way to get your experience down. I mean really, what do we care? Not about you, I mean anyone. What do you care about my grow? See? So that's why people get like 'whatever', and dismiss you.
 
Madriffer

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H.A.F. said:
Cursed myself when I said nothing systemic. Since I flushed them the Gringo is getting either deficiency or nute burn signs on other leaves.
Since they all got a good feed after I flushed, I am going to keep R/O feeding them and base the next feed on the exit ppm.

I mentioned it to someone yesterday, but I have grown this skunk strain and never gotten past 51 days in 12/12. The average has been right at 7 weeks. So at day 32, I think they'll all survive another 3 weeks. These did take longer to show pistils than the others, so it may go a bit longer, but it has been around 21 days from seeing the first brown pistils on top. Each grow, and even plants within that grow, has been 21 days - and the difference between the 45 day harvest and the 51 was probably in how long they took to show pistils.

Another thing I noticed is that the tops have one extra set of nugs than previous plants. I have usually had 3 sets of nugs, then the top - like the avatar. But the 2 big ones (FFTrio and GenHydro) have 2 sest of nugs in each direction before the top. And I mean ones with no stem of their own.
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What strain is that? Where can I get them beans is what I mean. I could Pimp that plant in my op, my GG 4 likes 9 almost 10 weeks to fill out.
 
Madriffer

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Big Perm said:
I would use the hydroponics version for everything instead of the regular. It has more micronutrients in it for hydro, a plus anywhere imo.
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For the win. Plants don't care if their food is derived from poop or mineral salts. They need them to be consistent and in proper proportion. That said, if you want to grow in soil, grow organic. If you wanna use bottled nutes, grow hydro, this includes coco.
BTW, Fox Farms, does not make a true soil.
 
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H.A.F.

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Big Perm said:
You got caught up in it bro.
Why would a company sell a product like soil that they boast about having everything you need in it. Then, also sell you a bunch of stuff to put in that same soil on day 1.
Think about it...
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Actually, no. This is the process of getting out of it. Figuring out how and why to use what's within a system that works will help you deviate from that system without a whole new learning curve.

Yes the FF nutes are easy, and pricey for what you are actually getting. The soil isn't much more than premium miracle-no stuff at the big box store - so price wasn't an issue for that. Any premixed that's good will be cheaper than buying what they use and mixing your own. My decision on the FF soil over promix or another reliable one was simple. I figure that they probably grow plants to test out their products. I figure they probably use the free soil they have on hand rather than buying Pro-mix ;) etc. Thought they would just work better together.
 
H.A.F.

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Big Perm said:
A year of growing may seem like a while, you have to really count the grows though. After a while you start to get a feel for stuff. If you are running a different strain each time, it takes longer to get it down, and random screwball stuff pops up in some strains that you might not know about.
Once you get some experience in, you'll throw the schedules away and read the plant in combination with what you have learned from all of those other grows.
You'll get it. It pisses people off though the way you and people like you come across. Arguing with someone about something you know little about isn't a good way to get your experience down. I mean really, what do we care? Not about you, I mean anyone. What do you care about my grow? See? So that's why people get like 'whatever', and dismiss you.
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I get only a year (actually 2, but the first was the amateur crap-gear early learning part in a bad environment for weed). One year of what you see going now with a rotation of plants. No, I'm not a horticulture expert.

So for the mid-level growers, when the 'old-timers' just say "do this dumb-ass, stop thinking" we tend to take it the wrong way... This kind of discussion we have been having is great.

And asking questions because you are trying to understand is not arguing. Never once have I said "I'm right". I have stated that "this is what I have decided" based on the evidence I had, knowing that you guys were making a best guess based on limited info.
 
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Madriffer

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Big Perm said:
A year of growing may seem like a while, you have to really count the grows though. After a while you start to get a feel for stuff. If you are running a different strain each time, it takes longer to get it down, and random screwball stuff pops up in some strains that you might not know about.
Once you get some experience in, you'll throw the schedules away and read the plant in combination with what you have learned from all of those other grows.
You'll get it. It pisses people off though the way you and people like you come across. Arguing with someone about something you know little about isn't a good way to get your experience down. I mean really, what do we care? Not about you, I mean anyone. What do you care about my grow? See? So that's why people get like 'whatever', and dismiss you.
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Running for office Governor? Got my vote mate.
Is that what they call tact?
 
H.A.F.

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Don't forget, I'm retired and this is my full time job, other than mowing the yard so the cops don't take notice of the house ;)

Just counted and the youngsters I have now are grow 12. The manifold that got tossed in with the contest plants was 11, contest #10, etc. and it included doing monster-cropped clones from 2 different grows.

So don't confuse the fact that it takes 3-4 months for a grow to mean I have only grown 3-4 plants. I just have a lot of time on my hands. And read a lot.
 
Big Perm

Big Perm

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H.A.F. said:
Actually, no. This is the process of getting out of it. Figuring out how and why to use what's within a system that works will help you deviate from that system without a whole new learning curve.
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We get it. We've been there. Right now you are on the inside looking out.
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Any premixed that's good will be cheaper than buying what they use and mixing your own.
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Big-time wrong there. I was simply saying after you are done with your soil...
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I figure that they probably grow plants to test out their products.
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All we are saying is we have, too.
 
Way2-High

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Dang! Some good stuff happened last couple pages. Only been able to pop in and not really read anything last couple days but I caught up and am loving it!!! I run an organic bed and feed salts at very low dose.
There is many ways to skin a cat, I like to keep it simple.
 
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