ReefBongwell
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Damn mike you beat me to it 
You musta been waiting for it to come up like me
You musta been waiting for it to come up like me 
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greenghost420
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fuckin weedturds ruining shit for the future! lol hope this isnt the last one you guys are at! have a dank fucking day...
wolfpack4ever
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Pause at 15:50... Absolutely beautiful scenery Sub..
MichiganGrows
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Feel sorry for all you guys that had a nice hotel picked out within walking distance. I'm sure everyone is not very happy with the sudden changes. I guess all you can do is just have a good time and bring home that CUP! 
ThatGuy113
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/08/michigan-medical-marijuana-dispensaries-supreme-court_n_2646213.html
[h=1]"Michigan Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Illegal, State Supreme Court Rules 4-1"[/h]
Just please remember during the cup the war is still going on even for other medical states. Good luck in the cup !
[h=1]"Michigan Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Illegal, State Supreme Court Rules 4-1"[/h]
Just please remember during the cup the war is still going on even for other medical states. Good luck in the cup !
drdank50
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This is great news!
ThatGuy113
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Huh ? .........
drdank50
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"Michigan had over 124,000 registered medical marijuana users as of December. Legally, they will only be able to grow their own marijuana or have it grown for them by one of the nearly 26,000 caregivers licensed by the state."
ThatGuy113
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They also decided caregivers and patients cannot obtain medicine from anyone but thier caregiver. So no patient to patient transfers, no caregiver to caregiver transactions and so forth. Their decision limits mmj to only obtaining meds from your legal caregiver and what happens if your caregiver is irresponsible or cannot supply a deserving patient ? It's not good at all.
Yes ther are several times more patients then caregivers but this new confimration of a earlier courts decision kills the dispensery system that is standard in so many other states along with obtaining meds between other patients and non specifically state registered caregivers. No way to legally get rid of overages and so on.... There is pending legislation dealing with dispernseries but who knows how that will go in a republican controlled state.
dirtysouthgenetics
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Fuck high times ...!!!! My plans are fucked...got fuckin card p.o for nothin..FUCK high times.........
drdank50
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Yes, Michigan certainly has it's challenges In the big picture however, you have a struggling city pushing for decriminalization. I've read multiple articles regarding shady dispensaries which is certainly a big thorn for MMJ in the state (especially in a red state). While there is a set back, it retains your medical status. Who wouldn't want to just grow their own stuff or know someone that can provide.
This is a small smack on the wrist to ensure a smoother process until it's more publicly acceptable.
ThatGuy113
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Isnt publicly accepted when more then 50% of voters approved mmj in 2008? Who wouldn't want to grow their own stuff and provide ? People who could of till now handle free meds to dieing patients because overages could be traded for donations to other non direct patients. (you have to pay the electric bill somehow ) Yes my medical status is protected but not when it comes to overgages cause then id have to try and justify the amount on me to a jury of peers who don't have a clue about mmj cause they aren't involved themselves in one way or another. If there's no way to get rid of overages legally your only strengthening the black market. That's all I'm saying.
What it comes down to is the people who the supreme court really seem to focus on are the people that are going to hurt the most..... ( terminally ill, chronic pain sufferers etc... )
montanachadly
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Thatguy thats the same shit that we just went through in Montana last year. They took away the dispensaries and made it super hard to even be a caregiver for anone. They also made it so that if you where a provider you could only be providing for 3 patients and could recieve no monetary reimbursment or pay of any kind. A whole load of stuff went all screwy here there trying to fix it now but it was scary for awhile. The prob is that here after the dispensaries closed down and if you werent one of the growers 3 friends you where shit out of luck. This is what basically started me growing that and the fact that nothing i got from and of the dispensaries here was worth a fuck. Im now lucky enuff that I have my own premium medicine theres a few people in and around my small town that are too sick to grow there own so I supply them atleast a quarter a week so there not miserable this is free to them cause they are sick but believe me my friends that arent sick and ive known for a long time that dont even know i grow my own medicine pay top dollar for the bud. Either way it turned me into a criminal. Hope Michigan gets it worked out.
The Hightimes cup I am sure glad i didnt book my ticket for this cup i was seriously considering it. When i was in Amsterdam at the Cup and talking to some of the Hightimes staff and it was apparent it was all about money and such. Even at the cup in Amsterdam for such a small event that it was this year it still seemed somewhat disorganized and this i mean is planned a long time in advanced. Fuck the Hightimes Cup I say we have a Weed Nerd Cup. The Nerd Cup. I think it would be a much nicer time than the Hightimes cup. Just a bunch of Nerds bringing there best to Subs house not literally subs house but State. That I think would be a fun time.
The Hightimes cup I am sure glad i didnt book my ticket for this cup i was seriously considering it. When i was in Amsterdam at the Cup and talking to some of the Hightimes staff and it was apparent it was all about money and such. Even at the cup in Amsterdam for such a small event that it was this year it still seemed somewhat disorganized and this i mean is planned a long time in advanced. Fuck the Hightimes Cup I say we have a Weed Nerd Cup. The Nerd Cup. I think it would be a much nicer time than the Hightimes cup. Just a bunch of Nerds bringing there best to Subs house not literally subs house but State. That I think would be a fun time.
ThatGuy113
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I remember seeing all of the Montana headlines. You guys definitely got it worse then we did ecspecially knowing the independent streak Montana is known for when it comes to politics. I sure as hell hope Montana can improve their system for the sake of the patients.
Mithrandir420
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I can see being a little pissed if someone has a hotel booked, or a lot pissed if you are a vendor and have to make logistical changes at the last minute. But other than that I don't see much reason to bitch. 6 days is generally enough time to cancel and book another hotel. Glendale is a nice town and as Coastal said, is close to the original location (Like 10 minutes close, like you can see DTLA form Glendale close). If you're flying in it does not change your flight plans. If you live in town, as I do, it changes nothing. Hell this moves the event closer to me. And I am not a fan of going to DTLA anyway. It's a dirty, grimy city.
I hope this all works out for everyone, and I hope people are in good moods at the event. I am really hoping to try some of TGA's offerings so I can make an informed decision when I buy their seeds, and I want to pick up a TGA rolling tray. I know most of you all only smoke TGA but I want to share my work with others as well.
Wishing good luck to you who are most affected.
subcool
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Seriously?
The revenue for HT is roughly 1.4 million dollars for an event like this and they don't spend a ton on the venue as you can kinda tell.
When you promote an event for 6 months and thousands of dollars are spent designing ads and Co-Promoting the event and you do all of this without actually having a permitted 215 area
you can't not see how bad a fuck up this is?
This is a medical event and people have conditions and they make travel arrangements based on the info given.
Its Saturday before the event I'm 12k invested and I dont know where my booth is?
Not of this effects what were planning, hell me and Dioxide will stand in an empty parking lot and do bong hits with anyone that comes and sees us simple.
We are and have always done this for everyone that supports us. Ask anyone thats ever spent 5 min at a TGA booth what it was like and usually you get a story about the highest a persons ever been.
Logistically as a business this is a nightmare thats all soon as we start talking about weed face to face and sharing some white Hash all that shit don't matter and we will have a blast!
Sub
The revenue for HT is roughly 1.4 million dollars for an event like this and they don't spend a ton on the venue as you can kinda tell.
When you promote an event for 6 months and thousands of dollars are spent designing ads and Co-Promoting the event and you do all of this without actually having a permitted 215 area
you can't not see how bad a fuck up this is?
This is a medical event and people have conditions and they make travel arrangements based on the info given.
Its Saturday before the event I'm 12k invested and I dont know where my booth is?
Not of this effects what were planning, hell me and Dioxide will stand in an empty parking lot and do bong hits with anyone that comes and sees us simple.
We are and have always done this for everyone that supports us. Ask anyone thats ever spent 5 min at a TGA booth what it was like and usually you get a story about the highest a persons ever been.
Logistically as a business this is a nightmare thats all soon as we start talking about weed face to face and sharing some white Hash all that shit don't matter and we will have a blast!
Sub
subcool
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The Michigan Supreme Court Abandons Michigan’s Medical Marihuana Patients
Denise A. Pollicella, Esq.
On Friday, February 8, 2013, the Michigan Supreme Court issued its opinion in People v McQueen, commonly otherwise known as the “Compassionate Apothecary” or “CA” case. The CA was a medical marihuana dispensary in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan that was cited as a public nuisance because it facilitated the transfer of medical marihuana to patients. The Michigan Court of Appeals found that while the registered caregiver-patient transfer of marihuana for medical purposes was a protected act under the MMMA of 2008, that compensated transfers of marihuana from patients to other patients, or from caregivers to patients who were not registered to them through the state registry program, were not protected acts. The CA appealed to the Michigan Supreme Court, who granted leave on the question of whether patient-to-patient sales are permitted under the MMMA.
The Court held that not only are patient-to-patient sales not permitted under the Act, but neither are uncompensated transfers between patients. The Court specifically held that while registered qualifying patients who receive marihuana for their own use are granted Section 4 immunity, no person who transfers marihuana to a registered patient, other than that patient’s own registered caregiver, is entitled to Section 4 immunity, regardless of whether the transfer was compensated. In other words, any person who facilitates a transfer of marihuana to any other person other than one of his own five registered patients is not protected under the MMMA.
In what can only be described as a death blow to the medical marihuana community, the Court has not only prevented dispensaries and non-profit organizations alike from assisting the roughly two-thirds of registered, qualifying patients in Michigan that do not have caregivers, but it appears to have banned any patient from even sharing his medication with another patient.
The holding that patient-to-patient sales are banned was not unexpected. Nobody familiar with the case or the law was expecting the Michigan Supreme Court to find dispensaries where none exist. However, the Court’s refusal to protect patients from sharing medical marihuana with other patients is an unexpectedly aggressive attack, and the practical implications will be widespread and devastating. Without the ability to consistently access safe, lab-tested, medical marihuana, Michigan’s patients who have been granted the right to use marihuana for medical purposes will not longer be able to find it. For those unfamiliar with medical marihuana, it is simply impossible for one caregiver to meet the diverse needs of five patients, who may require different strains and forms for their particular ailments. It is equally impossible for many seriously ill, elderly and infirm patients to find a reliable caregiver.
It is now again up to the people of Michigan to call their representatives and demand action. For four long years, our legislators have failed to provide an avenue for safe, reliable access to medical marihuana. The Supreme Court, as expected, has lain that responsibility squarely on the shoulders of our congress where it belongs. The need for the protection and regulation of dispensaries has gone from pressing to critically urgent. If we, as a state, are going to allow the medical use of marihuana, we have a responsibility to make the access to that medicine safe, protected and regulated.
Ms. Pollicella, founder and managing partner of Cannabis Attorneys of Mid-Michigan and a 1996 graduate of Wayne Sate University Law School, is the mother of two and practices Corporate Law, Business Transactions and Medical Marihuana Law in Livingston County, Michigan.
I think we had term for this in the 80's.
Grow Your Own!
I mean I taught ya how
Sub
Denise A. Pollicella, Esq.
On Friday, February 8, 2013, the Michigan Supreme Court issued its opinion in People v McQueen, commonly otherwise known as the “Compassionate Apothecary” or “CA” case. The CA was a medical marihuana dispensary in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan that was cited as a public nuisance because it facilitated the transfer of medical marihuana to patients. The Michigan Court of Appeals found that while the registered caregiver-patient transfer of marihuana for medical purposes was a protected act under the MMMA of 2008, that compensated transfers of marihuana from patients to other patients, or from caregivers to patients who were not registered to them through the state registry program, were not protected acts. The CA appealed to the Michigan Supreme Court, who granted leave on the question of whether patient-to-patient sales are permitted under the MMMA.
The Court held that not only are patient-to-patient sales not permitted under the Act, but neither are uncompensated transfers between patients. The Court specifically held that while registered qualifying patients who receive marihuana for their own use are granted Section 4 immunity, no person who transfers marihuana to a registered patient, other than that patient’s own registered caregiver, is entitled to Section 4 immunity, regardless of whether the transfer was compensated. In other words, any person who facilitates a transfer of marihuana to any other person other than one of his own five registered patients is not protected under the MMMA.
In what can only be described as a death blow to the medical marihuana community, the Court has not only prevented dispensaries and non-profit organizations alike from assisting the roughly two-thirds of registered, qualifying patients in Michigan that do not have caregivers, but it appears to have banned any patient from even sharing his medication with another patient.
The holding that patient-to-patient sales are banned was not unexpected. Nobody familiar with the case or the law was expecting the Michigan Supreme Court to find dispensaries where none exist. However, the Court’s refusal to protect patients from sharing medical marihuana with other patients is an unexpectedly aggressive attack, and the practical implications will be widespread and devastating. Without the ability to consistently access safe, lab-tested, medical marihuana, Michigan’s patients who have been granted the right to use marihuana for medical purposes will not longer be able to find it. For those unfamiliar with medical marihuana, it is simply impossible for one caregiver to meet the diverse needs of five patients, who may require different strains and forms for their particular ailments. It is equally impossible for many seriously ill, elderly and infirm patients to find a reliable caregiver.
It is now again up to the people of Michigan to call their representatives and demand action. For four long years, our legislators have failed to provide an avenue for safe, reliable access to medical marihuana. The Supreme Court, as expected, has lain that responsibility squarely on the shoulders of our congress where it belongs. The need for the protection and regulation of dispensaries has gone from pressing to critically urgent. If we, as a state, are going to allow the medical use of marihuana, we have a responsibility to make the access to that medicine safe, protected and regulated.
Ms. Pollicella, founder and managing partner of Cannabis Attorneys of Mid-Michigan and a 1996 graduate of Wayne Sate University Law School, is the mother of two and practices Corporate Law, Business Transactions and Medical Marihuana Law in Livingston County, Michigan.
I think we had term for this in the 80's.
Grow Your Own!
I mean I taught ya how
Sub
Odovan
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http://www.congress.org/news/ -> Write All Your Federal Officials let them know what we think of this !
The Michigan Supreme Court Abandons Michigans Medical Marihuana Patients
Denise A. Pollicella, Esq.
On Friday, February 8, 2013, the Michigan Supreme Court issued its opinion in People v McQueen, commonly otherwise known as the Compassionate Apothecary or CA case. The CA was a medical marihuana dispensary in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan that was cited as a public nuisance because it facilitated the transfer of medical marihuana to patients. The Michigan Court of Appeals found that while the registered caregiver-patient transfer of marihuana for medical purposes was a protected act under the MMMA of 2008, that compensated transfers of marihuana from patients to other patients, or from caregivers to patients who were not registered to them through the state registry program, were not protected acts. The CA appealed to the Michigan Supreme Court, who granted leave on the question of whether patient-to-patient sales are permitted under the MMMA.
The Court held that not only are patient-to-patient sales not permitted under the Act, but neither are uncompensated transfers between patients. The Court specifically held that while registered qualifying patients who receive marihuana for their own use are granted Section 4 immunity, no person who transfers marihuana to a registered patient, other than that patients own registered caregiver, is entitled to Section 4 immunity, regardless of whether the transfer was compensated. In other words, any person who facilitates a transfer of marihuana to any other person other than one of his own five registered patients is not protected under the MMMA.
In what can only be described as a death blow to the medical marihuana community, the Court has not only prevented dispensaries and non-profit organizations alike from assisting the roughly two-thirds of registered, qualifying patients in Michigan that do not have caregivers, but it appears to have banned any patient from even sharing his medication with another patient.
The holding that patient-to-patient sales are banned was not unexpected. Nobody familiar with the case or the law was expecting the Michigan Supreme Court to find dispensaries where none exist. However, the Courts refusal to protect patients from sharing medical marihuana with other patients is an unexpectedly aggressive attack, and the practical implications will be widespread and devastating. Without the ability to consistently access safe, lab-tested, medical marihuana, Michigans patients who have been granted the right to use marihuana for medical purposes will not longer be able to find it. For those unfamiliar with medical marihuana, it is simply impossible for one caregiver to meet the diverse needs of five patients, who may require different strains and forms for their particular ailments. It is equally impossible for many seriously ill, elderly and infirm patients to find a reliable caregiver.
It is now again up to the people of Michigan to call their representatives and demand action. For four long years, our legislators have failed to provide an avenue for safe, reliable access to medical marihuana. The Supreme Court, as expected, has lain that responsibility squarely on the shoulders of our congress where it belongs. The need for the protection and regulation of dispensaries has gone from pressing to critically urgent. If we, as a state, are going to allow the medical use of marihuana, we have a responsibility to make the access to that medicine safe, protected and regulated.
Ms. Pollicella, founder and managing partner of Cannabis Attorneys of Mid-Michigan and a 1996 graduate of Wayne Sate University Law School, is the mother of two and practices Corporate Law, Business Transactions and Medical Marihuana Law in Livingston County, Michigan.
I think we had term for this in the 80's.
Grow Your Own!
I mean I taught ya how
Sub
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