TheLoadedDragons full year Grow Cycle C-99 GDP

I have thought for a while about trying a full 12 month grow cycle on some plants starting them indoors and then putting them outdoors in order to maximize yield and compare the size and quality to previously harvested sister plants. This will be my journal to record the journey...

Number of Plants and types of Strains:

One Cinderella 99 Clone
Two GrandDaddy Purple Clones
Two Super Skunk/Sour Desielx Northern Lights #7 Clones

I am calling this day 1 because its the first day of the journal, and its too difficult to figure out all the different cutting days etc. because they are different.

Here is some info about this grow:

A.)The Clones were all taken with rooting gel and put into rockwool cubes (and all rooted in 5 days).

B.)After rooting, the clones were all buried 1/2" down in Fox Farm Ocean forest in different size pots and put with the rest of the indoor plants.

C.)As of now they are all growing under 4 foot tube fluorescents with some 23 watt CFL's added for a little extra light.

D.)I will be putting them under a Metal Hallide the first chance I get (probably around October)

E.) My indoor set up is not the cleanest smoothest setup, so I need to work on it, there are pest problems at the moment that I need to take care of as well... though the selected Clones are not showing signs of pest damage.

F.) I plan to transplant them two more times, once into bigger pots, and again into the ground in the early spring in 2009. The Ground will be prepped by digging 8'w by 8'l by 10' deep holes and mixing then mixing 50% Fox Farm Ocean Forest, 25% Local soil, 10% Horse Manure, 5% All organic mix of Worm Castings and bat Guano, 7% half and half Perlite & Harvest & Bloom, 1% all natural and fresh wood ash from wood burning stove, and 2% Dolomite Lime.

G.) I will line the holes with 1 layer of black landscaping cloth and about 3 layers of metal chicken wire to keep the gophers out and help retain water.

H.) I will be using mostly Fox Farm and Earth Juice Nutrients during the indoor veg and 45 days after they are put into the ground (or when they show they need it), though I may add to the menu later on, especially during flowering.

I.) Support posts will be pre set into the ground about 10' tall from base in 5'x5' squares, and the plants will be put in a place that will maximize sun exposer.

O.K. so here are some pics to help understand exactly where things are at:

Pic #1: this is a current picture of the Cinderella Mother which was started from seed. I will post pics here again of her right before and after I harvest her.

Pic #2: This is a current picture of the GDP Mother, which is a Clone herself, and I will post more pics just like the Cinderella.

Pic #3: This is a current picture of the SS/SDxNL#7 Mother which is also a clone ( Super Sour Desiel Lights), and I will post more pics just like the other mothers.

Pics #4+5: This is the Cinderella 99 Clone that I have selected for this grow.

Pics #6+7: These are the GDP Clones that I have selected for this grow.

Pics #8+9: These are the "Super Sour Desiel Lights" Clones that I have selected for this grow.

Pic #10: This picture shows the current growing environment for the Clones. This picture is to show the environment only, the plants have been rearranged and moved around, only the lights are in the same place, and there is a small 6" fan circulating air in the room that you may not be able to see. I do not necessarily regulate temperatures or Humidity, though I do the best I can to keep them in a range agreeable to the plants.

Ok, feel free to comment on this grow, and enjoy the ride. I will be trying to keep a very good log on this one, to study later and use for reference. Any and all input is valued and appreciated, so thank you all very very much in advance.

Holy crap!!!



Looks like you got it down!! I like that net you put up to keep pests out..

so you think these plants that you just put outside will finish before Jan. 1st? When will you be putting more out? Its like an outdoor SoG

lol, yeah, if you look back in my other journal, you will see that it was only about 24" on 7-22 so here is the difference in 45 days... here is the pic from 7-22 compared to the pic from today.

Edit: and yeah, lol, the netting is for pests, people, wind, heat, and aesthetics. I just patched it and stretched it a bit today... hope it isn't too short... those plants are just getting bigger and bigger...

I plan to Harvest the Cinderella almost exactly a month from now, then the GDP about a week or two later, then the "Super Sour Desiel Lights" around the beginning of Nov or so. I plan to Harvest everything else.... just whenever they are done, but I expect to be harvesting consistently from October-February either way with the other ones that I will be adding over time. The next batch to go outside will be next week or the week after. The plants from this journal will be going in the ground at a different location than these. I am currently Scouting for the best spot that will fit all five.

Great idea. I think thats the way Fdd does it but not vegin so long. I thought you were on bedrock just below the surface. See if you can avoid the wind if possible. Where your at if they got full sun they would be monsters fosho. One thing to think about, if you put them out before the summer solstice (around June 20th) they may try to flower and then revert to veg before flowering again. Great idea though and sounds like you have a plan. I'll be watching.

sounds like a cool idea.

id look into Rubbermaids for your secondary pots. those rootballs are gonna be massive!

are you gonna top any? or just let em grow on their own?

i cant see why this wouldnt work. they will stress a little when they are moved out but they will start budding easily enough i imagine.

think about hardening them off. if its cold outside where you are you may not wanna put em out over night. put em out during the day and in your garage or something at night. just for a few days, this will keep your shock minimal. as will your net, it will take some of the direct beating sunlight off of them.

good luck, and i think your gonna find that you will have a ton of pot!

good luck!!! subscribed

Watering Schedule:
I am watering every other day right now, usually in the evenings. No nutes for any of the plants yet. They are all in small pots, the largest is the Cinderella she is in an 8" pot, the Two GDP's are in like 2" and 4" pots, and the SSDNL's are in 2 1/2 inch pots.

I am thinking about their relative age:

Cinderella: taken about 2 1/2 weeks ago- she has enough roots to start vegetative growth.

Gdp: One was taken 7 days before the Cinderella (no rockwool it turns out for that one), the other was taken at the same time as the Cinderella.

SSDNL: They were both taken 10 days ago.

So their ages are:
Cinderella: 20 days (2 days vegging) so: day 2
GDP: A.) 27 days (9 days vegging) B.) 20 days (3 days vegging) so: A.) day 9 b.) day 3
SSDNL: 10 days (still rooting, no new veg. growth) so: day 0

I may be transplanting sooner than I thought. I can manage a couple of pots to do it. After that I will be making them their own special area in the indoor set up. When I transplant it will be into 15-20 gallon pots, strictly 70% Fox Farms 30% Harvest & Bloom soils, after 17 days I will start with the feeding... I am even making a calendar for it all, , they will be on the same feeding schedule as the others so it will be easy to manage.
I will take More pictures late tonight or early tomorrow. I will also be measuring nutrient amounts this grow, , I like never do that.

I will be back in a little bit with more...

looking.
nice details too

love it.............................

I figured I should separate these plants from the rest so I don't mix them up with the rest of the indoor, so I made them a spot under the four four foot fluorescents 5200 lumens, 5900 on the Kelvin scale. They all get direct light and nice fresh cool air. I took some pictures, and then put up more cele to keep more light in . I will have to add exhaust soon. I watered them, and they all look happy, . I am going to transplant the two GDP clones tomorrow, and the two SSDNL next week. I should be getting soil for all this and more in November I would think, for the indoor part of this grow, I will be getting the rest for the outdoor taken care of in late January. One of the reasons why I am not making a big deal about temps and humidity is that they all started out on my other plants in 100+ degree weather and still grew really well, and I am going to be putting them back out into less controllable conditions (outside) in March-April. Here are the pics... not much action yet, but very soon. They are all sitting on those shelves so I can remove the shelves and not have to move the lights, giving me up to 3 feet from lights to floor. This should hold em off until I can get a couple Metal Halides (at least by October 31st!), and that is when I will be transplanting them into 15-20 gallon buckets. I am pretty sure I have the electrical issues pretty much taken care of, but I will post more about that later.

greenthumb111 said:

Great idea. I think thats the way Fdd does it but not vegin so long. I thought you were on bedrock just below the surface. See if you can avoid the wind if possible. Where your at if they got full sun they would be monsters fosho. One thing to think about, if you put them out before the summer solstice (around June 20th) they may try to flower and then revert to veg before flowering again. Great idea though and sounds like you have a plan. I'll be watching.

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I am on a huge piece of Granite, but in the mountains not too far away are some good spots with semi ideal soil and lighting paths. There are places that look like they could get about 15 hours of direct light a day! I will be updating with picks of that later though, when I am doing all the prep there. From the time they go out I will be keeping track of their light schedule by using the almanac and stretching an extension cord (encased in pvc pipe of course) all the way too the lights I am going to use for them from somewhere (the lights will be very well hidden, and will only be on for a few hours at most... I still have some research to do about what kind of piping is best to get for the waterflow but am sure that pvc will hold off a fire from happening. I am planning on using tons of water for all this, so some of it will have to be imported from an as yet unidentified source. I'm working on my plan every minute of every day my friend... and thanks for reminding me about the spring flowering season! I may have spaced until too late...

Watering Schedule:
previous watering- 2 days ago
Recent Watering- mid afternoon, Today, all of them
Next watering- Tomorrow evening
Water PH- 6.4
Amounts- 474 ml (2 cups) each

Plant Ages:
Cinderella- Day 5
GDP- A.) Day 12....... B.) Day 6
SSDNL- (Roots established, veg starts today) Day 1

Growth Log:
Cinderella- She is growing quickly and starting to spread out a little, she is 2" from the lights tube.
GDP- Just starting to really take off, they are both going up and to the sides at the same time. The older clone is showing signs of being root bound.
SSDNL- Roots are established, and I noticed a new set of leaves earlier today, and they have already started to get bigger.

Notes about this grow:
A.) All five of these plants will be topped five times. Once at the main stock, and then again twice for the new main cola branches, and again twice to all of the branches that come strait from the main stock.
B.)There will be a full week between each topping session.
C.) Considering that all of the plants are different ages and sizes, they will be topped at different times.
D.) I will be using the FIM technique when topping these plants.
E.) I will be giving Superthrive to each plant being topped following each topping session at the rate of two drops per cup.
F.) I have not decided on the pot size they will be transplanted into yet, and need to decide by this weekend.
G.) I will do a decent job of recording the transplanting and topping procedures, to include before, middle, and after pictures.
H.) When I post a full update such as this, I will include a full "batch" of pictures".
I.) I will start recording the Height along with the age of the plants after they are transplanted.
J.) All five plants will be SCROGed after they are put into the ground outside.

Upcoming Events:
The Cinderella is in the largest pot, therefore she will be topped before any of the others, probably next week, and at the same time that I transplant the two GDP clones. Then the week after that I will be transplanting the SSDNL clones. The GDP Clones will get there first topping a week after they are transplanted, and the SSDNL will get their first topping two weeks after they are transplanted. After they are all transplanted into bigger pots I will remove a shelf (they are approximately 8 inches high). I will be transplanting the Cinderella clone one week after I complete her topping sessions.

Things to think about:
What size pots? Will I be keeping them under the fluorescents after I get the Metal Halide set up, or putting them under the Metal Halide? I need to make sure I come up with a feeding schedule for them once they have been transplanted, and do a little bit more research into whether or not I want to add to their menu.

Picture Descriptions:
Pics 1+2- All five plants before watering
Pic 3- All five plants after watering
Pics 4+5 - Cinderella
Pics 6-8 - Both GDP clones
Pics 9-11- Both SSDNL clones

Those look great TLD! I would turn that lower branch on the GDP into a clone. On the MH or floros question, I would use the MH for larger bushier vegged plants. The floros will do the same but less. More energy (in safe amounts of course) into the plants = more energy out of the plants

Yeah, looks good. Once they're a little bigger put them under the halide.

Are your dimensions right? 8'x8' by 10' depth?

That's a huge hole! That would require a dump truck full of soil. And a backhoe. Or a broke back.

Something you might want to consider is beginning flowering indoors, and bringing them out, you could pull down harvests all summer long.

Just get them to start flowering, like 2 weeks, and put them outside and fill the room up to start the next batch. You'd harvest every two weeks. You could pull down at least ten seperate harvests.

Reeferman of Reeferman seeds gave me the idea, it works.

if you look at my other grow journal in my signature, you will see that I am already going to be pulling in perpetual harvests of both indoor and outdoor. This is an experiment of comparison between these three kinds of plants and their different reactions to the same full year grow cycle, as well as to compare the size, quality, and quantity of the plants and their yields, and to make comparisons in the same categories to their sisters.

Have you smoked any C99 yet?? Your gonna love it! very sweet and fruity weed. Super strong sativa high, but it still has an little indica kick to it aswell. Its an all round great strain great yeilder as well.

Who is the bredder of your C99?? My seeds are from the Reserva Privada line of DNA Genetics. They boys at DNA do great things, I have smoked a number of thier starins and they are all so good and unique. Honestly some of the best pot in Amsterdam I bought. Thats why I bought these seeds because I knew I could'nt go wrong with the strain or breeder.

Sky's the limit brother!

mattso101 said:

Have you smoked any C99 yet?? Your gonna love it! very sweet and fruity weed. Super strong sativa high, but it still has an little indica kick to it aswell. Its an all round great strain great yeilder as well.

Who is the bredder of your C99?? My seeds are from the Reserva Privada line of DNA Genetics. They boys at DNA do great things, I have smoked a number of thier starins and they are all so good and unique. Honestly some of the best pot in Amsterdam I bought. Thats why I bought these seeds because I knew I could'nt go wrong with the strain or breeder.

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A friend of mine got 5 different phenotypes in a 10 pack of seeds from Brothers Grimm a long time ago and seven were female. Of the three males one was primarily indica dominant, very vigorous, and especially resistant to spider mites (they invaded and subsequently killed the other two males in the pollinating room, barely affecting this one indica dominant male), at the end of his veg cycle he selected his most strong and prominently sativa female and put her into the breeding room with the male (after the spider mite infestation had been completely removed, and the room sanitized), he breeded the two plants and got hundreds of seeds, ... I got some buds, .... so I got some seeds. I got another few seeds from a bag that I got from a club a couple years ago. (though the Cinderella shown in my journals came from my buddy, 100% females so far, )