think it will work?

matthebrute

matthebrute

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hey guys, just sitting here thinking of how im going to set up a box and your input is always appreciated.
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this is just a quick scetch going to use Y's and CFL bulbs. 18 bulbs total and when i switch to flower ill switch out my 6500K for the 2700K

could use some advice to wire them together, the box will most likely be 3/4 in shit plywood from lumber yard, going to paint inside a nice glossy white and make one of the front pieces drop down for acess to the inside.

my other topic is fans, i need something that will fit in but not let any light leaks through, any ideas?

other than that its going to be a pretty baisic grow boc, seedlings will go on top close to the light and get moved down as they grow. will transplant into 2 gal pots and vegg 10-12 plants. flower fairly small so i can sex them while still in 2 gal pots and x fer my females to 5 gal bucket and ditch the males.

if all works out i will probally start construction on a second box for some clones as im starting to flower.....we will see, dream dream dream :)

anyways i just fig i would see what you guys gots to say :leaf:


Matt
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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hmm, not sure why this thread isnt getting any responses :( sad face

anyways rather than create another im just going to bump this one..again with another question i have

when i go to buy my bulbs for veg all i can find is CFL's in the 5000k spectrum, will these work or do i need to find the 6500K.

i really need some good ideas how to wire all 18 light sockets up without causing a potential fire hazard. i plan on buying Y type sockets at the hardware store. as you can see in diagram above.


also is there anything wrong with my post? usually by now i would have a few people tossing out suggestions. is the diagram easily readable ? anyways if there is any additional info someone needs feel free to ask me for it. looking to set this up in the next couple days and really need to fig out the wiring and circulation issues.

thanks, Matt :joint:
 
GHOSTDOG SA

GHOSTDOG SA

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don't paint it in gloss white paint it in matt white as this diffuses the light better avoiding hot spots
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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so a flat white paint then?

i know the color white reflects all light and i dont have the $$ for mylar (wish i did) but i can spring for a can of paint, fig white would be best but im open to any and all suggestions>

thanks
Matt :)
 
sso

sso

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matthebrute said:
hmm, not sure why this thread isnt getting any responses :( sad face
well, it might just be lousy timing ;) people have lives you know.
anyways rather than create another im just going to bump this one..again with another question i have

when i go to buy my bulbs for veg all i can find is CFL's in the 5000k spectrum, will these work or do i need to find the 6500K.
they will do fine.
i really need some good ideas how to wire all 18 light sockets up without causing a potential fire hazard. i plan on buying Y type sockets at the hardware store. as you can see in diagram above.

its really rather easy wiring it, just a bit of a work, but im afraid english is not my first language and im a bit too tired to look at a dictionary right now.
but why dont you just simply use a bigger lamp? same heat and less work.could at least have the middle ones bigger and get t8´s or t5´s for the top or p55´s , less wiring too.
also is there anything wrong with my post? usually by now i would have a few people tossing out suggestions. is the diagram easily readable ? anyways if there is any additional info someone needs feel free to ask me for it. looking to set this up in the next couple days and really need to fig out the wiring and circulation issues.
its probably the timing, people are happy to help. (overgrow the government for one , plus growers are just often good people (you need to be at least somewhat good to be able to care for a plant properly(though that doesnt mean = liking people too lol)
thanks, Matt :joint:
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no prob,

sorry i cant help more but im not good enough with the technical aspect to be much help, but the idea is solid.
 
matthebrute

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sso said:
no prob,

sorry i cant help more but im not good enough with the technical aspect to be much help, but the idea is solid.
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all good i appreciate your input :)

T8's and T5's are tube CFL right, that go in a balast? i was thinking about doing that but fig would be easier to just keep it all the same. i have a little cash to spend but not a shitload and figured buying the balasts were going to be fairly costly thats why i was just going to go with the screw in type and buy Y's wich are prob around2-3 bucks at hardware store would need 9 of them 27 bucks is in my price range plus gonna be costly for 36 CFL bulbs (18 5000k-6500k) (18 2700k)
 
sso

sso

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your welcome,

t8´s are fairly cheap, maybe even cheaper than cfls.

its fairly easy wiring that though, just make sure everythings properly connected and no bare wires showing.

then make sure everything is nowhere near water can touch it and that everything hot is away from anything flammable, and then you should be allright, it really is a breeze.
 
sso

sso

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azman said:
is teh air intake at the top of the room? want to get that as low as you can imho,
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im not so sure in his case.

though id advise a fan pointed at the plants as well (rotating one if you can swing it)
 
sso

sso

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i think his idea might work fine, though, azman is right, its usually the way he describes, so might want to make it so it isnt final (that you can make adjustments easily later)

i personally drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom of my cabinet, so the air gets pulled evenly upwards and moving every leaf, plus getting blown directly at the bulb.
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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the air intake can be wherever it was just a quick sketch, baisicle i want one on each side a in and out.

i can place the intake near the botto, should i keep the exaust up top?

thanks :)
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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sso said:
i think his idea might work fine, though, azman is right, its usually the way he describes, so might want to make it so it isnt final (that you can make adjustments easily later)

i personally drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom of my cabinet, so the air gets pulled evenly upwards and moving every leaf, plus getting blown directly at the bulb.
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what size holes in bottom, i can put a set in between each plant. maybe 1 in holes? what would be good fans to use, i was thinking something like this http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100056304/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

get 2 of them and just referse the fan blade in one for the intake
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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ok so intake at bottom, exaust at top? i can see where that makes sense allowing the cooler air on the floor to enter and the hot air at top to escape.

also some just mentioned drilling holes in bottom, if i place 2 holes that are 1 in in diamater inbetween every plant and just scrap the instake fan and just have a exaust at the top?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100056304/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 something like this strong enough to pull ample air through the holes?
 
azman

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yeas heat rises, will be best for the plants geting the nice cooler air at the bottom and extraction will help better with humidity and getting the heat out as fast as possible.
 
matthebrute

matthebrute

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ok i have run into my next issue, from my design i would like to grow around 6-8 plants in my box to adulthood. the highes wattage CFL's i could find(in 6500k daylight) were 20 watt, i have 18 bulbs planned and 20x18=360 total watts
900 lumens per bulb wich 16200 lumens, my grow space is 24 ( i think 3x8 ) Sq ft wich = 675 lumen per sq ft.

this seems to be a bit less than recomended, if i toss in a 4th set up in the top of the box it will be 400 watts and 750 lumens wich comes a little bit closer to the goal of 600w and 1,000 lumen per sq ft

is my math correct? info appreciated thanks :)
 
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