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ChemPro

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Howdy, I have 4 original white widows bought from attitude seed bank. I'm growing under a spyder x plus LED in a DWC using the flora trio series by GH. Yesterday was the end of 8 full weeks of flowering. I was planning on flushing for a full week at the end of week 8 and pull them after 9 full weeks of flower. I just added plain water to my buckets yesterday. I attached pics of the trichomes and would appreciate some comments as to whether you think they are good to go. I read that the original white widow is a 50/50 indica/sativa hydrid and that pure indicas or hybrids are best when all are cloudy with few or no amber. Not sure about that though hence my ignorance.

Also, I took a pic of the canopy and a bud. I am used to seeing the leaves curl and crisp up during late flower and have read that is normal. But some of the tiny sugar leaves that are really close to the buds are getting dry and brown. So I am wondering if I should pull now. I realize this is a subjective question that relies on opinion, but I would appreciate your opinion nonetheless.

As always, polite, pertinent comments are welcomed, and thank you in advance.

P.S - I love this light, I will be posting my dry weight per watt yield soon. Really excited
 

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ChemPro said:
But some of the tiny sugar leaves that are really close to the buds are getting dry and brown
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Yeah, I see that and it's not to be written off as normal. It's a risk for mold and at the very least will result in unsightly bud. I'd harvest any plant with those brown sugar leaves touching or on the verge of touching bud. Do you mix dolomite lime into your soil prior to planting?

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I am used to seeing the leaves curl and crisp up during late flower and have read that is normal.
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Well, you want more of a 'fade'-- not a half brown and crumbly and half green leaf.
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LegalizeNature420 said:
For balancing PH, keeping leaves healthy and green. I was trying to understand what you're doing [or not doing] that's causing your leaves to brown like that.
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Temperatures are good. I read that pH should be between 5.5 and 6.5 but I keep it on the lower side, never above 6.2. But I understand that the pH will change before my next bucket change so is there a buffer I can use in hydroponics?

I've always pulled the entire plant or none of the plant. If I pull certain stems (brown sugar leaves) and leave the good ones will I risk it turning into a hermie? Or is that not an issue since I'm so close to harvest.

I appreciate you knowledge
 
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Temperatures are good. I read that pH should be between 5.5 and 6.5 but I keep it on the lower side, never above 6.2. But I understand that the pH will change before my next bucket change so is there a buffer I can use in hydroponics?
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I've always pulled the entire plant or none of the plant. If I pull certain stems (brown sugar leaves) and leave the good ones will I risk it turning into a hermie? Or is that not an issue since I'm so close to harvest.

I appreciate you knowledge
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You had nutrient locks from pH problems.
See the red part I highlighted......I believe you kept the pH to low for too long at some points - That burnt look is typical for that problem.

You want to set your pH in hydro at no less them 5.8 and let it rise to no more then 6.2. Please note that you do let it rise! Once it hits that 6.2 (or close) drop it back down to 5.8.... You need that "swing" to allow for proper uptake of all available nutrients, macro and micro.

Buffering water - What water do you run? Tap? Well? RO?
The best results come from RO. Why? Because RO should be around 0 ppm or damn close to it! Water over 150ppm out of any tap should be avoided. You simply just don't know what is in that ppm! Also think like this. The less ppm of unknown ppm source's. Leave the plant able to actually uptake a "perfectly balanced" nutrient value or mix supplied by you. You know exactly what is in your water and how much. The plant is left to use the exact mix with no extra unknown compounds that tend to unbalance the plants feeding uptake.
RO water MUST be buffered! I liked G&H CALi MAGic the best for that. Reason was the type of CA used is a better "buffer" then in most other brands. It's not the "best" for CA use by the plant BUT, the plant will still use enough of that type to be perfectly safe from not enough.

Follow these simple guidelines I gave and your next run will look better....

I might have let them go and watch the trich's a bit till I see things like this or maybe a bit less - not much.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/are-they-done-yet-what-does-done-look-like.853978/

Let me take minute to say that "flushing" is really an old school hippie myth - not needed!

The smooth smoking and great taste come truly from a careful dry and CURE!

Take the time to read this link I gave and all sorts of science on the subject is available to you. It points to not flushing (useless) and to curing properly.

Dry slowly like for 2 weeks at about 55% RH. I want my stems to "crack" and not bend or break in half. If they break in half - too dry!
You now place your trimmed buds in jars with Boveda packs. I like 62's, and I burp them daily for 3-5 min, for 2 -3 weeks. At this point I begin to burp only every other day for 2-3 min, for 2 weeks. I finish my cure by now burping only once to twice a week for 2-3 min till they have been in the jars for 2 MONTHS (8 weeks). This is a basic proper cure for MM.

Your buds look nice otherwise. I think if you clear up your pHing and water. You'll produce some fine buds!

Best off the cuff "tip" I can give is to NOT count weeks - that's simply a reference. Run 1 to 2 weeks longer then the "given" run time and go by the trich look - Not the coloring or ambering of sugar leaf trichs but, the trichs on the buds them selves!

Good luck!
 
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Dr. Who said:
Dry slowly like for 2 weeks at about 55% RH. I want my stems to "crack" and not bend or break in half. If they break in half - too dry!
You now place your trimmed buds in jars with Boveda packs. I like 62's, and I burp them daily for 3-5 min, for 2 -3 weeks. At this point I begin to burp only every other day for 2-3 min, for 2 weeks. I finish my cure by now burping only once to twice a week for 2-3 min till they have been in the jars for 2 MONTHS (8 weeks). This is a basic proper cure for MM.
Good luck!
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2 weeks at 55%? I'm thinking I'll be bone dry at those conditions if I let it go 2 weeks. Is that with a fan in the tent circulating air or is it static air? Do you evacuate the air with an exhaust fan while drying? Because that may be why you can dry lower because I keep humidity between 60 and 65% and it takes me about 9 days.

Because my humidity is less than 55% I put a humidifier in my tent with a small fan blowing directly on the humidifier to disperse the moisture. I then hook my exhaust fan to my Titan humidity controller. The humidifier runs constantly and the humidity controller will kick the exhaust fan on if the humidity rises above my set point. I'll lower my set point to 55% and give 2 weeks a try
 
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Dr. Who

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2 weeks at 55%? I'm thinking I'll be bone dry at those conditions if I let it go 2 weeks. Is that with a fan in the tent circulating air or is it static air? Do you evacuate the air with an exhaust fan while drying? Because that may be why you can dry lower because I keep humidity between 60 and 65% and it takes me about 9 days.

Because my humidity is less than 55% I put a humidifier in my tent with a small fan blowing directly on the humidifier to disperse the moisture. I then hook my exhaust fan to my Titan humidity controller. The humidifier runs constantly and the humidity controller will kick the exhaust fan on if the humidity rises above my set point. I'll lower my set point to 55% and give 2 weeks a try
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I check daily. Move as needed.
I should have mentioned that over those 2 weeks the drying area is added to for 4-5 days. That tends to keep the RH up there in the area. Sometimes I forget how big an area I dry in......

Yes a fan pulls air out of the area and cooler drier air is drawn in from the bottom - filtered of course.
 
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GrowUrOwnDank

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ChemPro said:
Howdy, I have 4 original white widows bought from attitude seed bank. I'm growing under a spyder x plus LED in a DWC using the flora trio series by GH. Yesterday was the end of 8 full weeks of flowering. I was planning on flushing for a full week at the end of week 8 and pull them after 9 full weeks of flower. I just added plain water to my buckets yesterday. I attached pics of the trichomes and would appreciate some comments as to whether you think they are good to go. I read that the original white widow is a 50/50 indica/sativa hydrid and that pure indicas or hybrids are best when all are cloudy with few or no amber. Not sure about that though hence my ignorance.

Also, I took a pic of the canopy and a bud. I am used to seeing the leaves curl and crisp up during late flower and have read that is normal. But some of the tiny sugar leaves that are really close to the buds are getting dry and brown. So I am wondering if I should pull now. I realize this is a subjective question that relies on opinion, but I would appreciate your opinion nonetheless.

As always, polite, pertinent comments are welcomed, and thank you in advance.

P.S - I love this light, I will be posting my dry weight per watt yield soon. Really excited
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I personally think it's on the cusp close to ready. Those nugs are looking tight as well. Beautiful job man. Personally, I would probably start chopping on some of them. Maybe let a few go longer and compare. Very nice man.
 
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I personally think it's on the cusp close to ready. Those nugs are looking tight as well. Beautiful job man. Personally, I would probably start chopping on some of them. Maybe let a few go longer and compare. Very nice man.
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Thanks, here are a couple more pics, The tips of buds that are dry happen to have the amber color. Is that a thing? Nute or light burn induces amber?
 

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I ain't really keen all the weed scientifics bro. If it were me. I would be smoking that tho. At least maybe a few of the nugs would be drying. Then let the others go for a little longer. Peace and love.
 
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Man I'm in no position to comment on your harvest (also a noob, close to harvest myself too!) but I just love your pics! The clarity is incredible. Nice :)
 
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